[env-trinity] Sovereign Citizens

Mon Apr 8 15:55:04 PDT 2013

Is this a private fight or can anyone just parachute on in?

Lol. Come on guys; lighten up! I don't know what Pat's intentions were
posting this article on the list-serve, being that he didn't state it as
such, but I would surmise that it was to help describe the kind of citizen
you may just very well run into in Trinity County. Especially those in the
alternative farming community or other types living in the mountains who
subscribe to the idea of sovereign citizen, which in the past were called
"Constitutionalists" in Trinity County, who have been violent at times, and
I for one can tell you that there are in fact people armed and dangerous in
those hills. As the legitimacy of the federal government is questioned
further by a larger portion of the population, combined with preppers, and
the potential collapse of our economic and social systems; the number of
people that one may run into while attempting to implement restoration
efforts within the basin may be hindered.

At least, that is what I'm surmising, from my own experience and background
in many subjects, including those that pertain with the rise of American
angst. That's just my two-cents on the subject and maybe that is why it was
posted. Maybe Pat can clarify his intentions?

Josh

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Greg King <gking at asis.com> wrote:

> There are many local people to honor for doing what is "good for our"
> rivers. But they're not just "ours." More importantly, without the
> "parachutists" there wouldn't be one damn fish left.
>
>
> Greg King
> President/Executive Director
> Siskiyou Land Conservancy
> P.O. Box 4209
> Arcata, CA 95518
> 707-498-4900
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> On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:22 AM, "bhill" <bhill at igc.org> wrote:
>
> Patrick - looks like you stirred the local tea pot.  This makes a perfect
> opportunity to create an alliance by tactfully mediating a mutual
> understanding instead of further polarizing as the baggers would do.  Good
> luck.****
>
> Brian****
>
> *From:* env-trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us [mailto:env-
> trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us] *On Behalf Of *Paul Catanese
> *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 10:04 AM
> *To:* Michael Caranci; Patrick Truman
> *Cc:* ENV Trinity
> *Subject:* Re: [env-trinity] Sovereign Citizens****
> ** **
> Micheal Caranci couldn’t have said it any better and I fully support his
> comments. Perhaps, one should examine his own yard before casting stones
> against those who live in the north. You wonder why those of us who
> actually live , breath and drink this river have a lack of trust of those
> who parachute into our communities and attempt to tell us what is good for
> us or our river?****
>
>
> *Paul Catanese, CPA*, Partner
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> *From:* env-trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us [
> mailto:env-trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us<env-trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us>
> ] *On Behalf Of *Michael Caranci
> *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 7:55 AM
> *To:* Patrick Truman
> *Cc:* ENV Trinity
> *Subject:* Re: [env-trinity] Sovereign Citizens****
> ** **
> What does this story -- not to mention the totally unnecessary
> bad-mouthing of people who live in Northern California -- have anything to
> do with the purpose of this mailing list?  I thought the purpose was to
> disseminate information pertaining to the Trinity River and it's
> environmental concerns?  Posting a completely un-related article like this
> is counter-productive, and to do so along with such derogatory comments is
> totally uncalled for.  ****
> ** **
> The earlier post attacking conservatives in Wyoming was equally bad.  Has
> this list turned into a soap-box for liberal propaganda attacking those
> with different ideas and ideologies?  Again, what do either of these
> stories have anything to do with the Trinity River?  ****
> ** **
> Regards,****
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> ** **
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Patrick Truman <truman at jeffnet.org>
> wrote:****
> sounds like some folks around the north state, and they are armed and
> dangerous...****
>  ****
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> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-sovereigns-20130406,0,3800088.story
> ****
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