[1st-mile-nm] [EXTERNAL] Re: US Feds to increase costs for access to Federal Land for broadband

Fri Dec 31 06:36:48 PST 2021

It is an old story, Andrew, as you know. Many municipalities are badly run.
Some large cities like NYC are also badly run.

The latest Reconnect money came with an incentive for muni ownership of new
deployments-- which I find foolish. Many municipalities can build. Many can
obstruct others ( as Andrew, who has been in the game longer than anyone
knows). But many cannot. Many municipalities are run by great people. Many
will never root out the lazy among city hall staff. Some like NYC burn
piles of $100 bills because they can't burn singles fast enough.

Steve

On Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 9:08 AM Andrew Cohill <cohill at designnine.com> wrote:

> In one of our ongoing fiber to the home build outs, we are dealing with a
> municipality rather than a state highway department.
>
> We are continually frustrated at the permit approval process.  Even for
> very simple projects (e.g. 1/2 mile of ROW in a residential neighborhood),
> it always takes at least two weeks to get it approved, and can often
> stretch out to 6 to 8 weeks, which plays havoc with our construction
> schedule.
>
> Municipal staff go on vacation without telling anyone, or attend week long
> "training" classes out of town, then return to tell us they are "backed up"
> and will try to get to our permit "real soon."
>
> Andrew
>
>
> ______________________
> Andrew Cohill, Ph.D.
> President
> WideOpen Networks, Inc.
> www.wideopennetworks.us
> 540-951-2150
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of
> Clarke, George, DoIT <george.clarke at state.nm.us>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 7:00 PM
> *To:* Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com>; 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org <
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [1st-mile-nm] [EXTERNAL] Re: US Feds to increase costs for
> access to Federal Land for broadband
>
>
> Hello Michael:
>
>
>
> With regards to ROW, totally agree. Regulating the review period will be a
> nice thing. An idea we had and hopefully still have is to automate the
> process. ROW Permitting is a big deal that has hampered many projects
> including delays for years. As a result funding lost. Note, most folks
> think DoIT is responsible for ROW, not the case. We attempt to facilitate
> the discussion. OBAE provides that avenue. The two state agencies that
> review ROW Permitting are NM Department of Transportation and the State
> Land Office, yet good to be inclusive of all agencies.
>
>
>
> Regarding the request for ISP Data, please find the attached. I do not see
> you on our ISP Distribution List that we update and maintain monthly.
> Appreciate under separate cover, please send me your contact info and we’ll
> push you onto the list that currently numbers near 600 for over 150 ISPs.
>
>
>
> Thank you, GAR
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 4:44 PM
> *To:* Clarke, George, DoIT <george.clarke at state.nm.us>
> *Cc:* 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> *Subject:* Re: [1st-mile-nm] [EXTERNAL] Re: US Feds to increase costs for
> access to Federal Land for broadband
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info. To follow up on a specific point:
>
>   - ROW: Part of the statuate requirements is to address ROW Permitting.
> NMBBP/DoIT was on the verge of implementing something years ago, yet no
> funding to sustain it. What worked as a bandaid during the ARRA days DoIT
> facilitated a project meet up. The ISPs and those impacted landowners were
> brought into the same room. A project overview was provided, questions
> aired, challenges discussed, and a commitment that the applications will
> not sit on a desk - move in a certain time period. We had also built an
> online contact applications that anyone can draw a route and a listing of
> contacts will be provided for download. We are talking about reviving that
> applications. Take a look, yet now only NM DOT and County contacts are
> informed and both extremely dated. The route function is not working.
>
>
> Progress in this area seems to me like the best bang/buck. I worked on a
> fiber project in Las Cruces several years ago that was 1000' long and had 3
> separate contacts. It eventually died because applications were just
> sitting on desks for months, kicked back, re-submitted, and then sitting
> for months again. A statute or regulation saying "an application must
> receive a response in X days or it's automatically approved" might get
> people moving....
>
> - ISP: NMBBP pushed out a request to ISPs within New Mexico for their
> coverage by technology type. We have over 150 ISPs within NM, yet received
> only a fraction of those. However, got most of the big companies. Since
> we'll be putting together a "Broadband Grant Program" those data will be
> extremely important to plan the expenditure of resources. Those who did not
> provide us data, we'll download the FCC Form477 data. Hence, we may look at
> those data as secondary for planning.
>
>
> Is there a way to find out (a) if an ISP provided info and (b) provide
> that info if it wasn't? I certainly missed the memo and have some info to
> add, maybe some others on the list do, as well.
>
>
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Clarke, George, DoIT <
> george.clarke at state.nm.us> wrote:
>
> Thank you for that Akkana and G-Day to you all:
>
> With regards to the dialogue below, I'll attempt to provide some clear
> thinking to the assumptions and answers to your questions -
>
>   - OBAE: The Office of Broadband Access and Expansion (OBAE) is in the
> construction phase that has begun with the recent hiring of an "Broadband
> Advisor" to the Governor. The individual is Matt Schmit who comes to us
> very qualifief for the job having been the Broadband Director for the State
> of Illinois. We've had a series of meetings, and traction is happening.
>
>   - History: We are extremely grateful that we've finally gotten some
> funding and an organizational structure to implement. Some of you do not
> know, yet the Department of Information Technology (DoIT) NM Broadband
> Program started with a $4.7M NTIA grant with a five year term during the
> ARRA Days. Following that DoIT limped the program along with temporary
> funding. The only legislative recurring funding received since 2010 was
> $100K. Yes, difficult for DoIT to "Do" given no cash to "Do". In 2020 $10M
> was appropriated though not recurring nor for operations/staff. The 2021
> legislation lifed the shoes off the ground, and we are extremely grateful
> that we've got something to work with. If interested in the 2021
> legislation, please note the following links -
>      - HB10: https://nmlegis.gov/Sessions/21%20Regular/final/HB0010.pdf
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>
>   - Projects: With the funds in hand DoIT has funded partially with match
> or fully projects in Lea County, Sierra County, Cochiti Pueblo,
> Jal/Carlsbad, Navajo Nation, Edgewood, and northern NM. Funds were also
> allocated to prepare a NM Broadband Strategic Plan (June 2020), develop a
> community broadband survey instrument, and continue our mapping program.
> Note we will be expanding the Community Survey into other areas who wish it.
>      - NMBBP Strategic Plan:
> https://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/reports/nmbbp_strategic20200616Rev2Final.pdf
>      - NMBBP Map: https://nmbbmapping.org/mapping/
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>      - Community Survey (Dona Ana):
> https://www.donaanabroadband.com/?language=en
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>
>   - Other: NMBBP is also in discussion with potential projects in
> Counties, Land Grants, Colonia, and Tribal Lands.
>
>   - RFP: DoIT also pushed out a Request for Proposals to support Broadband
> Planning, Grant Writing, and Infrastructure Implementation that is
> available to political subdivisions. Those vendors are being used by local
> entities in support of federal funding opportunities. Hit the link and
> search on "Broadband".
>      - SPD:
> https://www.generalservices.state.nm.us/state-purchasing/statewide-price-agreements/
>
>   - NM TAP: The NM Technical Assistance Program (NM TAP) has received ten
> proposals as a response to DoIT's NM Broadband Program Request for
> Information (RFI). We intend to support all of them, yet due to resource
> issues we'll need to stagger them. The targeted areas include Taos, Deming,
> Socorro, Santa Fe Ski Area, Silver City, Western NM rural communities,
> Eastern rural communities, Abiquiu and surrounds, Pecos and surrounds, and
> Deming. More detail will be available once we start implementing the work.
> If you'd like more information, hit our website that includes some great
> webinars we hosted regarding federal funding.
>     - NM TAP: https://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/tap.shtml
>
>   - NMSC: NMBBP is extremely active in especially providing analytics to
> the NM Student Connect Project, a multi agency collaboration that has
> resulted in nearly $100M applications to the Emergency Connect Fund (ECF)
> and the Emergency Broadband Benefit program. Data is being verified, yet
> preliminary stats show 44,254 connections and 114,652 devices for ECF
> applications alone. We've negotiated with Starlink for 911 connections of
> which Cuba is a part of that puzzle. In addition, a Help Desk has been
> implemented that includes languages in Dine, Tewa, and Spanish. To align
> with all of this is a Data Casting Project in partner with NM Public
> Television.  More info at the following link -
>      - NMSC: https://nmstudentconnect.org/
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>
>  - Speed Test: We've build a front end to collect more granular
> information. OBAE/NMBBP is planning a first quarter statewide speedtest
> launch that hopefully will touch residential and business locations.
>      - NMBBP Speed: https://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/speedtest.shtml
>
>   - ROW: Part of the statuate requirements is to address ROW Permitting.
> NMBBP/DoIT was on the verge of implementing something years ago, yet no
> funding to sustain it. What worked as a bandaid during the ARRA days DoIT
> facilitated a project meet up. The ISPs and those impacted landowners were
> brought into the same room. A project overview was provided, questions
> aired, challenges discussed, and a commitment that the applications will
> not sit on a desk - move in a certain time period. We had also built an
> online contact applications that anyone can draw a route and a listing of
> contacts will be provided for download. We are talking about reviving that
> applications. Take a look, yet now only NM DOT and County contacts are
> informed and both extremely dated. The route function is not working.
>       - ROW: http://nmbbmapping.org/rightofway/
> <https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnmbbmapping.org%2Frightofway%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cgeorge.clarke%40state.nm.us%7C472bc100fc3b4825bdf008d9cbee4e22%7C04aa6bf4d436426fbfa404b7a70e60ff%7C0%7C0%7C637765046800203790%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=d92zCgOecahF7o2b7MD%2F4ukQObEijC192lMkKY5ViTk%3D&reserved=0>
>
>   - ISP: NMBBP pushed out a request to ISPs within New Mexico for their
> coverage by technology type. We have over 150 ISPs within NM, yet received
> only a fraction of those. However, got most of the big companies. Since
> we'll be putting together a "Broadband Grant Program" those data will be
> extremely important to plan the expenditure of resources. Those who did not
> provide us data, we'll download the FCC Form477 data. Hence, we may look at
> those data as secondary for planning.
>
>   - Engagement: We are discussing a need to reingnite our community
> engagement strategy. Years ago we had a simple newsletter that included
> 1stMile. Important to reestablish that communication in hopes that
> constructive thinking can be realized.
>
> There is more to add, yet I wanted to respond to the rhetoric noted below
> that infers we are doing nothing. Lot is going on in response to the needs
> of our communities.
>
> Happy New Year. Gar Clarke
>
>
> Gar Clarke
> NM Geospatial Information Officer
> NM Broadband Project Manager
> Agency Tribal Liaison
> Department of Information Technology
> Simms Building
> 715 Alta Vista Street
> Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505
> Email:  george.clarke at state.nm.us
> Desk:  505.827-1663
> Cell:  505.690-1661
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of
> Akkana Peck
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 2:25 PM
> To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [1st-mile-nm] US Feds to increase costs for access
> to Federal Land for broadband
>
> CAUTION: This email originated outside of our organization. Exercise
> caution prior to clicking on links or opening attachments.
>
> A web search found:
> https://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/
>
> They have a map of availability of various types of broadband, which is
> about as reliable as such maps usually are -- who knew that most of the
> lower Bandelier back country had fiber? -- and a page on the Technical
> Assistance Program to help qualified government entities who are seeking to
> deploy or expand broadband infrastructure, with a soft application date of
> 17 October 2021 for proposals. I wonder how many proposals they actually
> got.
>
> They also have a link to a speed test that implies that they'll actually
> collect speeds and make them part of their map.
> So I encourage everyone to go there,
> https://www.doit.state.nm.us/broadband/speedtest.shtml
> even if you already know your connection speed, and especially if you have
> a slow link and want to make sure they include that in their data.
>
>         ...Akkana
>
> Nan Rubin writes:
> > At the beginning of this year, the legislative session approved a
> > multi-million dollar allocation for a centralized broadband office, to
> > coordinate all these disparate interests and getting broadband
> > deployed, coordinating grant applications to ensure that there won't
> > be a lot of competition among municipalities, and so we know who's
> > applying for what, and to prioritize where services need to go and
> > direct resources in two into those areas. That was nearly a year ago.
> > Do we know if this office has been set up, and has a broadband czar
> > been named to the state of New Mexico? I haven't seen anything about
> > it down here in Las Cruces, no news whether this has been put in place
> > or whatever. So please tell us Richard, do you know if this is going
> > on so we can make our positions known? Thanks much! When I saw that
> > the money had been allocated by the state to set up the broadband
> > coordinating office, I was hoping it would get established pretty
> > quickly. Here it is a year later and no news. Maybe we need to keep
> > making noise to make sure that this gets done as soon as possible?...
> > 0 best to everyone for the new year! Nan Ruben
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