[1st-mile-nm] Meet Copowi, the world's first ISP to guarantee network neutrality: Page 1

John Brown john at citylinkfiber.com
Sun May 25 23:22:02 PDT 2008


there are other "major owners"

You have ATT, Verizon (ex MCI), Global Crossing, Sprint, 360 Networks


what people don't understand or know is that many of these don't "break 
out" in NM.

for example you can not get IP transit from Level3 in NM.

its more complicated that most folks understand, and the layer 8 folks 
like to keep it that way......


peter wrote:
> Precisely the point John ---    you look at the primary fiber across NM 
> and you see two current major owners Level 3 and Qwest .   --  end game 
> period. net newt died
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> Peter Baston
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> John Brown wrote:
>> and so i wonder how they will handle the fact that they BUY transit 
>> from  others are are not a tier 1 (meaning default free in the routing 
>> table) and those others can/could limit certain types of traffic flows.
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>> now if a tier 1 came out and said it was net-neutral, that would be a 
>> BIG story.
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>> peter wrote:
>>> Yup net neutrality at a price ---   example from article below "/ 
>>> //Users in Colorado, for example, will have to cough up a staggering 
>>> $33.95 a month for a 256Kbps DSL connection—expensive by any standard 
>>> (except perhaps in Kazakhstan 
>>> <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070727-the-internet-in-kazakhstan-welcome-to-the-land-of-3355-per-month-dsl.html>). 
>>> "/
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>>> http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/Meet-Copowi-the-worlds-first-ISP-to-guarantee-network-neutrality.ars 
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>>> Peter Baston
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