[1st-mile-nm] FW: Delayed and or blocked emails / Its not only Comcast playing games read below

Thu Mar 13 16:24:45 PDT 2008

Does yahoo allow and sell to spammers the ability to see your email.

Does yahoo deliberately mess with spam filters to force users to go to 
its website to falsely boost usage

Is Comcast a willing participant

Consider the following

Several months ago we started to get complaints from our users that our 
spam filters were failing, more junk was getting through, regular 
outbound mail addresses and the resultant return email was getting 
trashed mixed in with the spam and more. One persistent person also 
spotted this fascinating detail. If you sent out a genuine email 
addressed say to Dr Art Winhauser within 24 hours you were getting porn 
and trash email directed back at the same addressee with several 
derivations of that name such as Dr Art Winehouse / Dr Art Whinehas and 
many more. Our websites are hosted by yahoo and so yahoo email client is 
used with either Thunderbird or Outlook on the desktop or directly 
through the browser at Yahoo but with our Cable host ISP Comcast.

We looked at this weird phenomena and sure enough testing as many 
contacts we had with very unusual names found a definite pattern.

So how are spammers getting this information ? Is Someone is letting 
spammers have access to email patterns on the main email servers but 
who, if its not Yahoo then a massive security breach must be 
happening.    When we raised this with Yahoo support, on several 
occasions, they chose to deliberately misunderstand the question and 
continually blame users security, spam and junk settings, acts of god , 
Microsoft the Cable ISP and more.. Most of the calls which ended up in 
India apparently  reached great heights in the support tree and it was 
obvious that Yahoo knows something they are not disclosing.  Trying to 
get any feedback from Comcast was a lesson in futility

Then like deja-vu, from someone who knows what was going on in Yahoo we 
find out this.

1. Yahoo is selling email addresses to spammers and are also selling 
pattern name links

2. The filters are being deliberately scrambled to push users to log on 
to the Yahoo site and drive up traffic, the point is that you will only 
see a good email message in your trash once and like a doubting Thomas 
you will continually be mindful of carefully sorting though the spam 
folder constantly opening spam with a similar name to one of your 
genuine contacts, all the time creating hits for the spammers and 
driving up revenue for both the spammers and Yahoo.

3. Comcast also is doing this and is a willing partner

Any questions regarding the above are referred to as technical customer 
errors

Don't think this is happening " Run your own tests you will see the 
responses quick enough "

 Somewhere in the line of communication either Comcast and or Yahoo are 
playing games with your email and web access and violating every tenant 
of web security and your usage rights

( : ( : pete

Peter Baston

*IDEAS*

/www.ideapete.com/ <http://www.ideapete.com/>

Tom Johnson wrote:
> FYI.
>
> -Tom Johnson
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Roger Helbig* <rhelbig at california.com 
> <mailto:rhelbig at california.com>>
> Date: Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:26 PM
> Subject: [IRE-L] FW: Delayed and or blocked emails
> To: IRE-L at po.missouri.edu <mailto:IRE-L at po.missouri.edu>
>
>
> The following is really disturbing.  I have made a number of complaints
> because mail to my Comcast friends is undeliverable.  I did not 
> realize that
> it has been a deliberate Comcast strategy to extort payment from 
> competiting
> ISPs.  I just want to let all of you who are not Comcast subscribers and
> even those of you who may be that Comcast needs to be stopped and I intend
> to spread this as far as possible.
>
> Roger Helbig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CaliforniaCom Staff [mailto:info at california.com 
> <mailto:info at california.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:15 PM
> To: alldomains at california.com <mailto:alldomains at california.com>
> Subject: Delayed and or blocked emails
>
>
> CaliforniaCom / SFO.COM <http://SFO.COM> Members:
>
> We have been in contact with Comcast for months now trying
> to resolve the delaying and blocking of emails. We
> have also sent out several mass emails explaining what the
> problem is. Here is a past link sent with some info.
> http://www.comcastblacklist.com
> Or you can do a google search for " Net Neutrality"
>
> Below email is the latest we received on the FCC / Comcast
> hearings.
>
> We will continue to follow up each week to try and get this
> resolved. It appears unless the FCC or courts force Comcast
> to be regulated like other Internet companies, They will be
> putting other ISP's out of business or force them to pay to
> let others email their clients.
>
> Google won a suit already and forced Comcast to unblock
> their emails coming in. So you can setup a free email acct.
> through gmail.com <http://gmail.com> and be able to get emails through to
> Comcast members. A large number of emails and or too large
> size of emails will still get you personally blocked
> though.
>
> Wish we had betters news. Below is an email from an
> Organization trying to help stop The Internet being taken
> over by  Comcast, Verizon and  AT&T.
>
> A new bill has been introduced in U.S. House that would
> stop Comcast, Verizon and AT&T from controlling what you
> do, and where you go online.
>
> Inorder to stop Internet blocking and censorship once and
> for all. Please take the time to fill out the information
> below and push submit, this will automatically send it to
> your members of Congress.
> http://free.convio.net/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&id=241 
> <http://free.convio.net/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&id=241>
>
> Thanks for your continued support.
> CaliforniaCom Inc. / SFO.com Staff
>
> Email From:
> http://freepress.net/
> SavetheInternet.com <http://freepress.net/SavetheInternet.com> Just 
> when you thought they couldn't
> stoop any lower,
> Comcast stole your seat! Now we need your help to fight
> back.
>
> As you know, at an FCC hearing in Cambridge last Monday
> designed to get to the bottom of Comcast's Internet
> blocking, Comcast had the audacity to flood the meeting
> room with paid seat-fillers -- shutting out more than 100
> people who took time off from work and school to be there.
>
> Why would Comcast stack the room? To prevent real people --
> like you and me -- from attending the hearing and raising
> our voices about Comcast's outrageous actions.
>
> This is just one more reason why we must restore Net
> Neutrality as the law of the land. And why
> SavetheInternet.com (the coalition organized by Free Press
> to fight for an open Internet)
>
> Support the SavetheInternet.com Coalition
>
> Comcast is the nation's largest cable TV operator and
> second-largest Internet service provider. They're one of a
> small handful of would-be Internet "gatekeepers" who have
> the potential to radically redefine what the Internet
> means.
>
> They want to transform the Internet from a free and open
> frontier into a tightly restricted corporate profit stream.
> We can't let them succeed.
>
> But we need your help to fight for the public interest at
> the FCC and in Congress against the mega-companies like
> Comcast who are already spending millions of dollars on
> lobbyists and fake grassroots groups to defeat us.
>
> SavetheInternet.com won't stoop to pay "seat fillers" to
> stack the deck at FCC hearings.
>
> But with your contribution we can organize Internet users
> into a powerful, vocal force; provide expert research and
> testimony to Congress and the FCC; expose the bad acts of
> companies like Comcast; and make sure the public hears
> about what these companies are doing.
>
> We Need Your Help. Support SavetheInternet.com Today.
>
> Comcast has billions. We have you. The Internet won't stay
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> it.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Josh Silver
> Executive Director
> Free Press
> http://freepress.net/
> SavetheInternet.com <http://freepress.net/SavetheInternet.com>
>
> P.S. Watch this video of the Comcast seat-fillers on
> Monday. They didn't know why they were occupying seats at
> an FCC hearing. They just knew that a big company was
> paying them to do it. Now that you know the truth, help
> SavetheInternet.com fight back.
>
>
> Take action on this important campaign at:
> http://free.convio.net/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&id=241 
> <http://free.convio.net/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&id=241>
>
> Tell your friends about this campaign at:
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