From winterety at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 23 09:05:47 2008 From: winterety at sbcglobal.net (sheryl lynn gerety) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:05:47 -0700 Subject: [OldNorth] April Agenda Message-ID: <42FC9274-6AF6-4EB3-9FE1-AE4E2C2F85EF@sbcglobal.net> Old North Davis Neighborhood Association Meeting 6:30 PM Thursday February 24, 2008 Hattie Weber Museum, corner of 5th and C Streets in Central Park I. Call to order & introductions. II. Approval of agenda and minutes. III. Treasurer?s report, Kathleen Groody. IV. Web master's report, Joel McKinney. 1. Feedback on changes to website, and suggestions for additions. V. Announcements. VI. New Business 1. City Council Candidate Forum, Sheryl Gerety. 2. May 17th yard sale, Heather Martin, Dennis Dingemans, and Kathleen Groody. 3. Project review, new garage at 601 E Street, see notice. 4. Project review, B Street development, Sheryl Gerety and Steve Tracy. VII. Old Business 1. King High Tree Mitigation Plan, Dennis Dingemans and Steve Tracy. 2. Security Issues, general discussion. 3. Parking benefit district, Steve Tracy. 4. Election Committee report, Cyndi Marshall. PROPOSED SLATE FOR 2008/2009 ONDNA BOARD Dennis Dingemans Sheryl Gerety Kathleen Groody Tony Martin Steve Tracy Valerie Vann Raul Zamora Board officer positions will be determined after the Board is elected at the June 1 picnic. NOTE: Any other resident interested in a position on the Board is welcome. Contact Cyndi Marshall, 642 D Street, at 756-4921. VIII. Adjourn Old North Neighborhood Association Board Members for 2007/2008 President Sheryl Gerety 758-3990; Vice President Raul Zamora 400-9102; Secretary Tony Martin 759-2012; Treasurer Kathleen Groody 757-1092; Dennis Dingemans (753-5959); Peter Gunter 758-4009; and Steve Tracy 756-4921 Web Site http://www.oldnorthdavis.com/ Email oldnorth at mailman.dcn.org ANNOUNCEMENTS City Council Candidates Forum 7:00 PM through 9:30 PM Wednesday, April 30th City Council Chambers Davis City Hall 55 Russell Boulevard Sponsored by Sierra Club and Davis Neighborhood Coalition - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neighborhood Yard Sale! 8 AM to Noon Saturday, May 17th 603 C Street, corner of 6th and C Sponsored by the Old North Davis Neighborhood Association Benefit to purchase marking plaques for historic homes Bring your saleable goods and we?ll help them find a home - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Old North Davis Neighborhood Association Annual Membership Meeting Picnic and Board Election Sunday, June 1, 2008 5 PM to 7 PM E Street well site Between 611 and 623 E Street Potluck, bring food and beverages to share Barbeque, ice, and coolers provided -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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May 17th yard sale, Heather Martin, Dennis Dingemans, and Kathleen Groody. 3. Project review, new garage at 601 E Street, see notice. 4. Project review, B Street development, Sheryl Gerety and Steve Tracy. VII. Old Business 1. King High Tree Mitigation Plan, Dennis Dingemans and Steve Tracy. 2. Security Issues, general discussion. 3. Parking benefit district, Steve Tracy. 4. Election Committee report, Cyndi Marshall. PROPOSED SLATE FOR 2008/2009 ONDNA BOARD Dennis Dingemans Sheryl Gerety Kathleen Groody Tony Martin Steve Tracy Valerie Vann Raul Zamora Board officer positions will be determined after the Board is elected at the June 1 picnic. NOTE: Any other resident interested in a position on the Board is welcome. Contact Cyndi Marshall, 642 D Street, at 756-4921. VIII. Adjourn Old North Neighborhood Association Board Members for 2007/2008 President Sheryl Gerety 758-3990; Vice President Raul Zamora 400-9102; Secretary Tony Martin 759-2012; Treasurer Kathleen Groody 757-1092; Dennis Dingemans (753-5959); Peter Gunter 758-4009; and Steve Tracy 756-4921 Web Site http://www.oldnorthdavis.com/ Email oldnorth at mailman.dcn.org ANNOUNCEMENTS City Council Candidates Forum 7:00 PM through 9:30 PM Wednesday, April 30th City Council Chambers Davis City Hall 55 Russell Boulevard Sponsored by Sierra Club and Davis Neighborhood Coalition - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neighborhood Yard Sale! 8 AM to Noon Saturday, May 17th 603 C Street, corner of 6th and C Sponsored by the Old North Davis Neighborhood Association Benefit to purchase marking plaques for historic homes Bring your saleable goods and we?ll help them find a home - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Old North Davis Neighborhood Association Annual Membership Meeting Picnic and Board Election Sunday, June 1, 2008 5 PM to 7 PM E Street well site Between 611 and 623 E Street Potluck, bring food and beverages to share Barbeque, ice, and coolers provided -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 08 April Agenda Type: application/octet-stream Size: 48640 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rddd at dcn.davis.ca.us Wed Apr 23 10:42:46 2008 From: rddd at dcn.davis.ca.us (Robin&Dennis) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:42:46 -0700 Subject: [OldNorth] someone killed the bees ata 636 B. Street street tree In-Reply-To: <42FC9274-6AF6-4EB3-9FE1-AE4E2C2F85EF@sbcglobal.net> References: <42FC9274-6AF6-4EB3-9FE1-AE4E2C2F85EF@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Sheryl, A few minutes ago I checked on the honey bee hive in the Elm tree in front of 636 B. Street. Someone in the last 24 hours has plugged up the bee entrance with expanding insulation foam. Dead bees are all around the former entrance and the hive is surely killed. That hive was a source of daily pleasure and pride to me since I first noticed it about 6 months ago. Every daytime walk-around-the-block with Kirby let me marvel in their industriousness in coming-and-going at the entrance hole. It is right about ear height and at night I would put my ear to the tree and listen to the buzz of thousands of beating wings inside. Honey bees are dying nationwide from mysterious causes, and bee decline is a serious economic and biological trend. I have a hard time imagining the mind-set that would lead to this act of assassination of our honeybee friends. I'll check with the city to see if killing bees in street trees is official policy. However, I suspect it to be an unauthorized act by the workmen who are daily engaged in some serious remodelling for the new owners (the Schillings). Dennis From dequickert at omsoft.com Wed Apr 23 11:39:37 2008 From: dequickert at omsoft.com (Dan Quickert) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:39:37 -0700 Subject: [OldNorth] someone killed the bees ata 636 B. Street street tree In-Reply-To: References: <42FC9274-6AF6-4EB3-9FE1-AE4E2C2F85EF@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <480F8269.8020102@omsoft.com> Dennis, Even if it were policy to kill a hive, it would be inadvisable to do so with anything that fills the hole. Cavities and wounds are best left uncovered because any covering/sealant only succeeds in protecting disease and decay organisms that are present or gain entry. I hope the city regards this as an act of vandalism of city property. That foam should probably be removed, if it can be done without further harm to the tree. Dan Quickert ----------------- Dan Quickert Consulting Arborist Tree Associates (530) 304-7780 On 04/23/08 10:42 AM, Robin&Dennis wrote: > Sheryl, > A few minutes ago I checked on the honey bee hive in the Elm > tree in front of 636 B. Street. Someone in the last 24 hours has > plugged up the bee entrance with expanding insulation foam. Dead > bees are all around the former entrance and the hive is surely killed. > That hive was a source of daily pleasure and pride to me > since I first noticed it about 6 months ago. Every daytime > walk-around-the-block with Kirby let me marvel in their > industriousness in coming-and-going at the entrance hole. It is > right about ear height and at night I would put my ear to the tree > and listen to the buzz of thousands of beating wings inside. Honey > bees are dying nationwide from mysterious causes, and bee decline is > a serious economic and biological trend. I have a hard time > imagining the mind-set that would lead to this act of assassination > of our honeybee friends. > I'll check with the city to see if killing bees in street > trees is official policy. However, I suspect it to be an > unauthorized act by the workmen who are daily engaged in some serious > remodelling for the new owners (the Schillings). > > Dennis > _______________________________________________ > oldnorth mailing list > oldnorth at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us > http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/oldnorth > > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rddd at dcn.davis.ca.us Wed Apr 23 14:19:18 2008 From: rddd at dcn.davis.ca.us (Prof. Dennis Dingemans) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:19:18 -0700 Subject: [OldNorth] Update from Dennis on the B-Street Bees -- the hive in demise In-Reply-To: <480F9E43.4090905@omsoft.com> References: <26E136A5-3518-459A-AAA9-0208E1FA3139@sbcglobal.net> <480F9E43.4090905@omsoft.com> Message-ID: Bee fans of OND, Updates show little results. I called Rob Cain, city arborist, who claimed no knowledge of the bee eradication measures and said his arm of the city didn't have any policy about bees in city trees. He wondered if the school district had done it (?). He said he would go take a look. I visited 636 C. Street where only the contractor was on-site and he denied any knowledge about the bees. He said the owner (the Schillings) never visited the site and that the selling realtor was his contact with the owners. I visited Stan Dundon's house (just south of 636 B) and they didn't know about the recent plugging-up of the bee hive. They, in fact, had just worried about the need for bees to pollinate one of their trees and appreciated the nearby hive. Dan Q. has suggested a logic for removing the plug of foam from the hive entrance. I'll look into that this afternoon when I've made further effort to contact the owner. Dan pointed out that for the tree's health, holes/hollows like that shouldn't be shutt up but should be allowed to breathe. Bruce and others (see below) suggest that bees might return if the plug is taken out. Dennis "bee aware!" Dennis - I saw your message as a result of being on the Old North e-mail list, so please pardon the intrusion - I usually do not respond to anything, as it really isn't any of my business. However, in this case, I am quite interested, and I hope you, and Old North in general, pursues the topic with gusto. That is terrible, in my opinion, and I consider it an act of vandalism., and should be treated as such. Let me know if I can help. Jim Dennis: My understanding is that the parking strip is public property. Thus, assuming this isn't a city policy or act, after a suitable notification to the owners of the nearest house -- it is possible they have a resident who is seriously allergic to bee venom -- the foam should be removed. Even if the present hive is dead, it is likely a suitable location will be re-colonized from swarms. This is important to all gardeners in the neighborhood, anyone with backyard fruit trees, etc. Having kept bees, I'm appalled. Bruce Dennis, This makes me sad and mad. I hope that the city considers it an act of vandalism and investigates. Is there any way that the foam can be removed? Love, Robin Shoot. Do stay on this. I'm sad too, and can't believe people could be so horrible. Sheryl I noticed that too and was equally saddened, but figured the property owners had a right to do it. Never thought about the city tree angle. -=rgb On Apr 23, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Robin&Dennis wrote: >Sheryl, > A few minutes ago I checked on the honey bee hive in the Elm >tree in front of 636 B. Street. Someone in the last 24 hours has >plugged up the bee entrance with expanding insulation foam. Dead >bees are all around the former entrance and the hive is surely killed. > That hive was a source of daily pleasure and pride to me >since I first noticed it about 6 months ago. Every daytime >walk-around-the-block with Kirby let me marvel in their >industriousness in coming-and-going at the entrance hole. It is >right about ear height and at night I would put my ear to the tree >and listen to the buzz of thousands of beating wings inside. Honey >bees are dying nationwide from mysterious causes, and bee decline is >a serious economic and biological trend. I have a hard time >imagining the mind-set that would lead to this act of assassination >of our honeybee friends. > I'll check with the city to see if killing bees in street >trees is official policy. However, I suspect it to be an >unauthorized act by the workmen who are daily engaged in some serious >remodelling for the new owners (the Schillings). > >Dennis _________________________ At 1:38 PM -0700 4/23/08, Dan Quickert wrote: >I've taken my stand ;-) > >figured if Dennis wants to persue it, he'd call the City or >something... don't think this needs the full force of the >Association. > >Dan Q > >On 04/23/08 1:00 PM, sheryl lynn gerety wrote: > >>So where do we stand? Has the city been called, do we need to form a group? >> >>Sheryl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dottiependleton at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 23 16:43:08 2008 From: dottiependleton at sbcglobal.net (Dottie Pendleton) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:43:08 -0700 Subject: [OldNorth] Update from Dennis on the B-Street Bees -- the hivein demise References: <26E136A5-3518-459A-AAA9-0208E1FA3139@sbcglobal.net><480F9E43.4090905@omsoft.com> Message-ID: <001101c8a59b$c9106d30$220110ac@yourxhtr8hvc4p> Re: Update from Dennis on the B-Street Bees -- the hive inHello Dennis and All, I also am saddened by this reported act of violence against our friends, the honeybees...and heartened by the warm regards expressed here towards the hive and its residents. I wonder if these fragile, much appreciated beings--perhaps in transit to their next incarnation--know of the human caring in response to their demise, and would figure this earthly plane is likely a suitable haven after all. Our home orchards depend on the grace of nature, including weather, bee, and human benevolence, and we are wise to notice it is an intricate dance, all participants affecting all others. --Dottie Pendleton ----- Original Message ----- From: Prof. Dennis Dingemans To: Dan Quickert ; sheryl lynn gerety ; Dennis Dingemans ; Bruce Winterhalder ; oldnorth at crank.dcn.davis.ca.us Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [OldNorth] Update from Dennis on the B-Street Bees -- the hivein demise Bee fans of OND, Updates show little results. I called Rob Cain, city arborist, who claimed no knowledge of the bee eradication measures and said his arm of the city didn't have any policy about bees in city trees. He wondered if the school district had done it (?). He said he would go take a look. I visited 636 C. Street where only the contractor was on-site and he denied any knowledge about the bees. He said the owner (the Schillings) never visited the site and that the selling realtor was his contact with the owners. I visited Stan Dundon's house (just south of 636 B) and they didn't know about the recent plugging-up of the bee hive. They, in fact, had just worried about the need for bees to pollinate one of their trees and appreciated the nearby hive. Dan Q. has suggested a logic for removing the plug of foam from the hive entrance. I'll look into that this afternoon when I've made further effort to contact the owner. Dan pointed out that for the tree's health, holes/hollows like that shouldn't be shutt up but should be allowed to breathe. Bruce and others (see below) suggest that bees might return if the plug is taken out. Dennis "bee aware!" Dennis - I saw your message as a result of being on the Old North e-mail list, so please pardon the intrusion - I usually do not respond to anything, as it really isn't any of my business. However, in this case, I am quite interested, and I hope you, and Old North in general, pursues the topic with gusto. That is terrible, in my opinion, and I consider it an act of vandalism., and should be treated as such. Let me know if I can help. Jim Dennis: My understanding is that the parking strip is public property. Thus, assuming this isn't a city policy or act, after a suitable notification to the owners of the nearest house -- it is possible they have a resident who is seriously allergic to bee venom -- the foam should be removed. Even if the present hive is dead, it is likely a suitable location will be re-colonized from swarms. This is important to all gardeners in the neighborhood, anyone with backyard fruit trees, etc. Having kept bees, I'm appalled. Bruce Dennis, This makes me sad and mad. I hope that the city considers it an act of vandalism and investigates. Is there any way that the foam can be removed? Love, Robin Shoot. Do stay on this. I'm sad too, and can't believe people could be so horrible. Sheryl I noticed that too and was equally saddened, but figured the property owners had a right to do it. Never thought about the city tree angle. -=rgb On Apr 23, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Robin&Dennis wrote: Sheryl, A few minutes ago I checked on the honey bee hive in the Elm tree in front of 636 B. Street. Someone in the last 24 hours has plugged up the bee entrance with expanding insulation foam. Dead bees are all around the former entrance and the hive is surely killed. That hive was a source of daily pleasure and pride to me since I first noticed it about 6 months ago. Every daytime walk-around-the-block with Kirby let me marvel in their industriousness in coming-and-going at the entrance hole. It is right about ear height and at night I would put my ear to the tree and listen to the buzz of thousands of beating wings inside. Honey bees are dying nationwide from mysterious causes, and bee decline is a serious economic and biological trend. I have a hard time imagining the mind-set that would lead to this act of assassination of our honeybee friends. I'll check with the city to see if killing bees in street trees is official policy. However, I suspect it to be an unauthorized act by the workmen who are daily engaged in some serious remodelling for the new owners (the Schillings). Dennis _________________________ At 1:38 PM -0700 4/23/08, Dan Quickert wrote: I've taken my stand ;-) figured if Dennis wants to persue it, he'd call the City or something... don't think this needs the full force of the Association. Dan Q On 04/23/08 1:00 PM, sheryl lynn gerety wrote: So where do we stand? Has the city been called, do we need to form a group? Sheryl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ oldnorth mailing list oldnorth at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/oldnorth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valerie at vanngroup.com Wed Apr 23 17:54:30 2008 From: valerie at vanngroup.com (Valerie Vann) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:54:30 -0800 Subject: [OldNorth] Update from Dennis on the B-Street Bees -- the hivein demise References: <26E136A5-3518-459A-AAA9-0208E1FA3139@sbcglobal.net> <480F9E43.4090905@omsoft.com> Message-ID: <480FDA46.5C390F81@vanngroup.com> I wonder if it could have been a bit of private enterprise, somebody relocating the bees and then filling the hole to discourage them from coming back. If it's OK with Rob Cain (this is a street tree?), unplug the hole and see what happens. I've noticed fewer bees around my block this year, and have wondered if it contributed to the fact that my tulip/magnolia tree hardly bloomed this spring. Valerie ============= "Prof. Dennis Dingemans" wrote: > > Bee fans of OND, > Updates show little results. > I called Rob Cain, city arborist, who claimed no knowledge > of the bee eradication measures and said his arm of the city > didn't have any policy about bees in city trees. He wondered if > the school district had done it (?). He said he would go take a > look. > I visited 636 C. Street where only the contractor was > on-site and he denied any knowledge about the bees. He said the > owner (the Schillings) never visited the site and that the selling > realtor was his contact with the owners. > I visited Stan Dundon's house (just south of 636 B) and > they didn't know about the recent plugging-up of the bee hive. > They, in fact, had just worried about the need for bees to > pollinate one of their trees and appreciated the nearby hive. > Dan Q. has suggested a logic for removing the plug of foam > from the hive entrance. I'll look into that this afternoon when > I've made further effort to contact the owner. Dan pointed out > that for the tree's health, holes/hollows like that shouldn't be > shutt up but should be allowed to breathe. Bruce and others (see > below) suggest that bees might return if the plug is taken out. > > Dennis > "bee aware!" > > Dennis - I saw your message as a result of being on the Old North > e-mail list, so please pardon the intrusion - I usually do not > respond to anything, as it really isn't any of my business. > However, in this case, I am quite interested, and I hope you, and > Old North in general, pursues the topic with gusto. That is > terrible, in my opinion, and I consider it an act of vandalism., > and should be treated as such. Let me know if I can help. Jim > > Dennis: > My understanding is that the parking strip is public > property. Thus, > assuming this isn't a city policy or act, after a suitable > notification to > the owners of the nearest house -- it is possible they have a > resident who > is seriously allergic to bee venom -- the foam should be removed. > Even if > the present hive is dead, it is likely a suitable location will be > re-colonized from swarms. This is important to all gardeners in > the > neighborhood, anyone with backyard fruit trees, etc. Having kept > bees, I'm > appalled. > Bruce > > Dennis, > This makes me sad and mad. I hope that the city > considers it an act of vandalism and investigates. Is > there any way that the foam can be removed? Love, > Robin > > Shoot. Do stay on this. I'm sad too, and can't believe people > could be so horrible. > Sheryl > > I noticed that too and was equally saddened, but figured the > property owners had a right to do it. Never thought about the city > tree angle. > > -=rgb > > On Apr 23, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Robin&Dennis wrote: > > > Sheryl, > > A few minutes ago I checked on the honey bee hive in the Elm > > tree in front of 636 B. Street. Someone in the last 24 hours > > has > > plugged up the bee entrance with expanding insulation foam. > > Dead > > bees are all around the former entrance and the hive is surely > > killed. > > That hive was a source of daily pleasure and pride to me > > since I first noticed it about 6 months ago. Every daytime > > walk-around-the-block with Kirby let me marvel in their > > industriousness in coming-and-going at the entrance hole. It is > > right about ear height and at night I would put my ear to the > > tree > > and listen to the buzz of thousands of beating wings inside. > > Honey > > bees are dying nationwide from mysterious causes, and bee > > decline is > > a serious economic and biological trend. I have a hard time > > imagining the mind-set that would lead to this act of > > assassination > > of our honeybee friends. > > I'll check with the city to see if killing bees in street > > trees is official policy. However, I suspect it to be an > > unauthorized act by the workmen who are daily engaged in some > > serious > > > remodelling for the new owners (the Schillings). > > > > Dennis > > _________________________ > > At 1:38 PM -0700 4/23/08, Dan Quickert wrote: > > > I've taken my stand ;-) > > > > figured if Dennis wants to persue it, he'd call the City or > > something... don't think this needs the full force of the > > Association. > > > > Dan Q > > > > On 04/23/08 1:00 PM, sheryl lynn gerety wrote: > > > >> So where do we stand? Has the city been called, do we need to > >> form a group? > >> > >> Sheryl > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > oldnorth mailing list > oldnorth at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us > http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/oldnorth From dequickert at omsoft.com Wed Apr 23 18:17:30 2008 From: dequickert at omsoft.com (Dan Quickert) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:17:30 -0700 Subject: [OldNorth] Valerie's tree not blooming In-Reply-To: <480FDA46.5C390F81@vanngroup.com> References: <26E136A5-3518-459A-AAA9-0208E1FA3139@sbcglobal.net> <480F9E43.4090905@omsoft.com> <480FDA46.5C390F81@vanngroup.com> Message-ID: <480FDFAA.9070904@omsoft.com> Val, your tree's blooming would not be influenced by bees - if they were the pollinator, they would only be responsible for fruit set. More likely factors are tree health, sun exposure, recent climate, and other factors - some spanning more than the current season. Dan Q On 04/23/08 5:54 PM, Valerie Vann wrote: > I wonder if it could have been a bit of private > enterprise, somebody relocating the bees and > then filling the hole to discourage them from > coming back. > > If it's OK with Rob Cain (this is a street tree?), > unplug the hole and see what happens. > > I've noticed fewer bees around my block this > year, and have wondered if it contributed to > the fact that my tulip/magnolia tree hardly > bloomed this spring. > > Valerie > ============= > --