From valerie at vanngroup.com  Mon Jul 12 10:22:31 2004
From: valerie at vanngroup.com (Valerie Vann)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:22:31 -0700
Subject: [OldNorth] Alley trash service: Meet City & DWR @ 6pm Monday 7/12
	@D/E alley
References: <BAY2-F41mbG7AwiXYIy0000339c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <40F2C8D7.8EC853F9@vanngroup.com>

The Old North Trash meeting conflicts with the 
Old East Meeting today which will cover last Weds
Planning meeting disaster.

Valerie Vann



From valerie at vanngroup.com  Mon Jul 12 10:26:41 2004
From: valerie at vanngroup.com (Valerie Vann)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:26:41 -0700
Subject: [OldNorth] Alley Trash Removal
Message-ID: <40F2C9D1.DB5CD453@vanngroup.com>

By the way, are the rest of you in Old North aware
that the F-G 6th 7th (and 5th-6th too, I think) blocks
had Alley Trash pickup discontinued years ago when
the alley was "paved"??

Valerie Vann



From zesmith at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 12 11:27:06 2004
From: zesmith at hotmail.com (Z Smith)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:27:06 +0000
Subject: [OldNorth] RE:Conflict w/ Old East mtg; F/G alley service
Message-ID: <BAY2-F11MECpeVUyvlR00049ea5@hotmail.com>

The conflict with the Old East meeting was brought to my attention after 
we'd locked in the PW and DWR people having moved the meeting time/date 
twice already.  I hope our meeting will be brief and those who want to go on 
to the Old East meeting can head on over there.

I know that some folks on the F/G alley had service discontinued some time 
back; however, my office is *on* that alley and gets its trash picked up 
from there.  So I'm puzzled, and will seek clarification.

Z


>From: Valerie Vann <valerie at vanngroup.com>
>To: "Old North Neighborhood Assoc." <oldnorth at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us>
>Subject: [OldNorth] Alley Trash Removal
>Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:26:41 -0700
>
>By the way, are the rest of you in Old North aware
>that the F-G 6th 7th (and 5th-6th too, I think) blocks
>had Alley Trash pickup discontinued years ago when
>the alley was "paved"??
>
>Valerie Vann
>
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>oldnorth at mailman.dcn.org
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From apwallace at microfab.net  Mon Jul 12 11:46:22 2004
From: apwallace at microfab.net (Andrew P. Wallace)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:46:22 -0700
Subject: [OldNorth] RE:Conflict w/ Old East mtg; F/G alley service
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F11MECpeVUyvlR00049ea5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <200407121846.i6CIkOnI029814@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us>

I also believe that the apartment behind me (on G street between 6th and
7th) gets alley pickup.  

Andy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldnorth-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us [mailto:oldnorth-
> bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us] On Behalf Of Z Smith
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:27 AM
> To: valerie at vanngroup.com; oldnorth at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
> Subject: [OldNorth] RE:Conflict w/ Old East mtg; F/G alley service
> 
> The conflict with the Old East meeting was brought to my attention after
> we'd locked in the PW and DWR people having moved the meeting time/date
> twice already.  I hope our meeting will be brief and those who want to go
> on
> to the Old East meeting can head on over there.
> 
> I know that some folks on the F/G alley had service discontinued some time
> back; however, my office is *on* that alley and gets its trash picked up
> from there.  So I'm puzzled, and will seek clarification.
> 
> Z
> 
> 
> >From: Valerie Vann <valerie at vanngroup.com>
> >To: "Old North Neighborhood Assoc." <oldnorth at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us>
> >Subject: [OldNorth] Alley Trash Removal
> >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:26:41 -0700
> >
> >By the way, are the rest of you in Old North aware
> >that the F-G 6th 7th (and 5th-6th too, I think) blocks
> >had Alley Trash pickup discontinued years ago when
> >the alley was "paved"??
> >
> >Valerie Vann
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >oldnorth mailing list
> >oldnorth at mailman.dcn.org
> >http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/oldnorth
> 
> 
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From valerie at vanngroup.com  Mon Jul 12 12:26:52 2004
From: valerie at vanngroup.com (Valerie Vann)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:26:52 -0700
Subject: [OldNorth] Re:Last Weds. Summary B St meeting
References: <p06010222bd15d0a0dc11@[192.168.123.191]>
Message-ID: <40F2E5FC.CF1708D1@vanngroup.com>

Old East Davis wrote:
> 
> The design broke many, many of the guidelines as
> well as the minimal land plot zoning. Both city
> staff and the historical resources commission
> strongly opposed the project. The Planning
> Commission, however, approved it on a 4-3 vote!!
> Two beautiful bungalows are next to the proposed
> project. The votes for the project reasoned that
> those homes would no longer be there in 10 years
> anyway. Why not throw all the guidelines out the
> window so that ?infill ? can happen. There was
> lots of posturing about how wonderful this
> property owner is to provide 4 potential
> owner-occupied homes in the city center.!!!!
> 

I question whether these small lot houses will
stay "owner occupied" or quickly transition to
rentals. The smaller the lot & house the more
likely to go from at best a student owner and
sell out after graduation.

> The second project was another proposal to scrape
> a small home on B between 3rd and 4th Streets.
> The same architect, different owners, same 4
> units subdivided on a lot. This one was denied
> 4-3. We really need to talk to Jennie Baker. She
> was a consistent vote to ?scrape and stuff?.
> These projects will be presented to City Council.
> We need to be there.
> 

Wasn't this second project for some kind of "Loft"
development? If so, I think that may have been the
reason for denial, because they couldn't make
the bogus "owner occupied" argument about it.

I also think it really interesting that these
Guideline Busting projects are surfacing just in
time for a panel of neophyte commissioners.

It is always interesting to see the kind of 
things that get approved in Davis during the 
summer when lots of people are out of town..

Valerie Vann



From rgb at cognitiveliberty.org  Mon Jul 12 16:06:17 2004
From: rgb at cognitiveliberty.org (Richard Glen Boire)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:06:17 -0700
Subject: [OldNorth] F/G alley service
In-Reply-To: <200407121846.i6CIkOnI029814@velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Message-ID: <JHEGIJMDJLNLOBJICLGEKEEPFKAA.rgb@cognitiveliberty.org>

We back onto the F-G paved alley, and trash is indeed still collected from
the alley. In fact, the number 1 reason why our alley was paved (against our
wishes) was so that DWR could get their trucks through, especially in the
Winter.

-Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: oldnorth-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
[mailto:oldnorth-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us]On Behalf Of Andrew
P. Wallace
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:46 AM
To: 'Z Smith'; valerie at vanngroup.com;
oldnorth at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
Subject: RE: [OldNorth] RE:Conflict w/ Old East mtg; F/G alley service


I also believe that the apartment behind me (on G street between 6th and
7th) gets alley pickup.

Andy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldnorth-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us [mailto:oldnorth-
> bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us] On Behalf Of Z Smith
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:27 AM
> To: valerie at vanngroup.com; oldnorth at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
> Subject: [OldNorth] RE:Conflict w/ Old East mtg; F/G alley service
>
> The conflict with the Old East meeting was brought to my attention after
> we'd locked in the PW and DWR people having moved the meeting time/date
> twice already.  I hope our meeting will be brief and those who want to go
> on
> to the Old East meeting can head on over there.
>
> I know that some folks on the F/G alley had service discontinued some time
> back; however, my office is *on* that alley and gets its trash picked up
> from there.  So I'm puzzled, and will seek clarification.
>
> Z
>
>
> >From: Valerie Vann <valerie at vanngroup.com>
> >To: "Old North Neighborhood Assoc." <oldnorth at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us>
> >Subject: [OldNorth] Alley Trash Removal
> >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:26:41 -0700
> >
> >By the way, are the rest of you in Old North aware
> >that the F-G 6th 7th (and 5th-6th too, I think) blocks
> >had Alley Trash pickup discontinued years ago when
> >the alley was "paved"??
> >
> >Valerie Vann
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >oldnorth mailing list
> >oldnorth at mailman.dcn.org
> >http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/oldnorth
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> oldnorth at mailman.dcn.org
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