[env-trinity] Don't blame wildfires on climate change – it

Mon Aug 13 16:29:08 PDT 2018

Did you actually watch the interview this morning?  This propaganda piece
doesn't even come close to reflecting anything that was actually said in
the interview.  The purpose of this list serve is to share information, not
to posit false propaganda and put forth your own obviously biased opinions
about people.

Please go away and allow this group to go back to what it was intended.

Michael Caranci
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On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Shaw <fishonshaw at att.net> wrote:

> OMG... Obviously, someone with that natural resources degree must have
> missed those lectures on cumulative effects, forest ecology and ecosystem
> management
>
> There appears to be a significant loss of the common sense requirements
> necessary for these high ranking  position. However, given other examples
> of departmental to reasonings, such as, a recent statemen suggesting a
> significant decrease in the incidental take of sea turtles within the CA
> gillnet fishery, one can easily come to the conclusion that thos
> detrimental environment swing that we are experiencing is by design.
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Denise Boggs
> <denise at conservationcongress-ca.org> wrote:
> You can’t fix stupid....
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/13/us-
> interior-secretary-ryan-zinke-climate-change-environmentalists?CMP=share_
> btn_link
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> Don't blame wildfires on climate change – it's environmentalists' fault,
> says ZinkeUS interior secretary Ryan Zinke blames environmentalists for
> the devastation in California and calls for an increase in logging
>
> Gabrielle Canon in San Francisco
> First published on Mon 13 Aug 2018 15.54 EDT
>
> The US interior secretary, Ryan Zinke, has blamed environmentalists for
> California’s ferocious wildfires and claimed, contrary to scientific
> research, that climate change had “nothing to do” with them. Instead, he
> said the fires were worsened because of limits on logging.
>
> “America is better than letting these radical groups control the dialogue
> about climate change,” Zinke told KCRA, a TV station in northern
> California, on Sunday. “Extreme environmentalists have shut down public
> access. They talk about habitat and yet they are willing to burn it up.”
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>
> His remarks come on the heels of a USA Today op-ed
> <https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/08/08/active-forest-management-prevent-wildfires-column/913801002/>,
> published last week, where he held environmentalists partly responsible for
> the fires because of a stance some have taken against logging. Zinke
> described it as a responsible means of forest management and called for an
> increase in timber harvesting, adding that this would also be a boon for
> the economy.
>
> “This is not a debate about climate change,” he said on a trip to the
> affected area, the Sacramento Bee reported. “There’s no doubt the [fire]
> season is getting longer, the temperatures are getting hotter.”
>
> California wildfires are being magnified & made so much worse by the bad
> environmental laws which aren’t allowing massive amounts of readily
> available water to be properly utilized. It is being diverted into the
> Pacific Ocean. Must also tree clear to stop fire from spreading!
> — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 3:53 PM - Aug 6, 2018
> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1026587142989008897>
>
> Zinke’s statements echoed sentiments expressed by President Trump – a 5
> August tweet suggested the fires were “made so much worse by the bad
> environmental laws which aren’t allowing massive amounts of readily
> available water to be properly utilized”. The claim, referencing
> decades-long disputes over California water rights, was met with immediate
> backlash
> <https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/politics/politifact-trump-s-claims-about-california-wildfires-false/article_a8f2319c-ccd6-552d-8109-36fd201a1678.html>
> and confusion because firefighters are not struggling with a water
> shortage. The White House has yet to offer a response or explanation.
>
> More than 1,000 square miles (2,590 sq km) have burned across California
> in the 2018 fire season and at least eight people have been killed in what
> is now considered the most destructive fire season on record for the state
> – several months ahead of when fire season is expected to end.
>
> The Ranch Fire, which continues to scorch swaths of land in northern
> California has officially taken the record as the largest ever observed in
> the state, burning close to 469 sq miles (1,214 sq km) alone.
>
> Governor Jerry Brown has called the devastating situation “the new normal”
> as dry conditions and rising temperatures have elongated the fire season,
> and has joined climate scientists who attribute the shift to climate change.
>
> Writing in the Guardian last week
> <https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/07/california-wildfires-megafires-future-climate-change>,
> climate scientists Daniel Swain, Crystal Kolden and John Abatzoglou said
> California had entered an “era of megafires” that is linked to “the
> long-term warming trend”.
>
> Researchers do attribute the recent fires in part to forest management
> strategies, and moves to inhibit naturally occurring wildfires that
> previously helped maintain an ecological balance in forests. Fire
> suppression has left forests dense, dry and primed to burn. Such policies,
> Swain and his colleagues write, were put in place to protect the timber
> industry.
>
> Kristina Dahl, a senior climate scientist at the Union of Concerned
> Scientists, said the science showing a link between worsening wildfires and
> rising temperatures is well established. “Specifically for the western
> states,” she said, “we know that the wildfire activity in recent decades –
> at least half of it – is attributable to human-caused climate change.”
>
> “This is a reality that we have created and that we are living with, but
> this is an evolving situation. Where we are right now is just one point on
> a trajectory that is headed in a worsening direction.”
>
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> Denise Boggs
> Www.conservationcongress-ca.org
>
> "Some of them were angry at the way the Earth was abused; By the men who
> learned how to forge her beauty into power; And they struggled to protect
> her from them, only to be confused; By the magnitude of the fury in the
> final hour."
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