[env-trinity] env-trinity Digest, Vol 119, Issue 43
Deirdre Des Jardins
campaign at mbaysav.org
Thu Jan 2 06:29:31 PST 2014
Population growth is greatly impacting the state's water use. When I
looked at diversions from the Sacramento Delta by the State and Federal
Water Projects over the last 30 years, I found that 90% of the increased
diversions between the 1990s and 2000-2007 were from the State Water
Project, which is mostly urban. You can see the graphs of changes
in exports by decade here: http://nodeltagates.com/mythsfacts/
I think that almost every river basin in the state is similarly stressed
because of population growth.
We definitely need to look at how to supply water for housing more
efficiently, and how existing housing can use less water. The
pattern for the last 30 years of building expansive single family
residential subdivisions with large lawns is completely
unsustainable. Either multi-family residential or Xeriscaping is
much more efficient and leaves water in the rivers for both fish and
agriculture. Multi-family residential is also much more energy efficient.
Deirdre Des Jardins
California Water Research
On Wednesday/1/1/14 10:08 PM, Patrick Truman wrote:
> more water meters in areas without them would help, we even have water
> meters in Weaverville, but we all know locations throughout the state
> that do not have metered water service, perhaps we should start a list
> of shame.
> Patrick Truman
> Local Rabble Rouser, and I hope that is not an oxymoron...
> *From:* Deirdre Des Jardins <mailto:campaign at mbaysav.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:51 PM
> *To:* env-trinity at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
> <mailto:env-trinity at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us>
> *Subject:* Re: [env-trinity] env-trinity Digest, Vol 119, Issue 43
> To anyone who studies water use in California, it's becoming
> increasingly apparent that there is likely to be less water available
> in the future for agriculture in the state, because of the impacts of
> climate change and population growth.
>
> So finding a constructive way to resolve the conflicts between water
> needs for agriculture and for fish populations is essential. In
> dialogues like this all over the state, I have seen endless
> discussions about how fish populations might survive with less water,
> but little discussions of strategies for reducing agricultural water
> use, such as regulated deficit irrigation, which allows growing crops
> with less water, or of crop shifting.
>
> These seem like essential strategies but they are hardly even
> discussed. In a high water cost situation, regulated deficit
> irrigation may even increase farmer's profits.
> See, for example, Deficit irrigation for reducing agricultural water
> use http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/2/147.abstract
>
> Deirdre Des Jardins
> California Water Research
>
> On Wednesday/1/1/14 4:51 PM, Paul Catanese wrote:
>> Felice: based on your logic it would seem that indiscriminate over
>> netting at the lower reaches based on bogus projections of fish
>> returns would have a significantly greater negative impact on the on
>> the species than surface water. What say you. Let's be intellectually
>> honest. Let's study that.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 11:13 AM, "Felice Pace" <unofelice at gmail.com
>> <mailto:unofelice at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> The second largest Coho run on the Scott in redecent years is good
>>> news but the numbers Sari shared indicate that we are not making
>>> progress in rebuilding the Scott Coho population to anything near
>>> biological viability over the long run. To give raders a more
>>> complete view perhpas Sari or Tom will share a full data set for the
>>> last 10 years, i.e. the ¨bad¨years as well as the ¨good¨ - so that
>>> folks get a more comlete picture.
>>>
>>> The dewatering of the Scott and key tribs each summer is likely the
>>> top factor preventing recovery of Scott Coho to long-term viability.
>>> Very few of the progeny of this year´s relatively ¨good¨ run will
>>> make it to the ocean. Many will be killed by dewatering below
>>> irrigation diversions and others by Klamath mainstem conditions. A
>>> multi-year deep drought could still wipe out Scott Coho. We remain
>>> on the edge of functional extinction. Until SWRCB begins or is
>>> forced to actually measure and regulate diversions and groundwater
>>> pumping Scott Coho will remain on the brink of extinciton.
>>>
>>> Those who work to ¨protect¨surface and groundwater irrigators from
>>> regulation are an impediment to recovery.
>>>
>>> Felice Pace
>>>
>>>
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>>> Today's Topics:
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>>> 1. Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run largest since 2007
>>> (Tom Stokely)
>>> 2. Re: Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run largest
>>> since
>>> 2007 (Sari Sommarstrom)
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: Tom Stokely <tstokely at att.net <mailto:tstokely at att.net>>
>>> Subject: [env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run
>>> largest since 2007
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>>> http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/article/20131217/NEWS/131219773?
>>>
>>> December 17. 2013 9:48AM
>>> Scott River Coho run largest since 2007
>>> PHOTO/ PHOTO COURTESY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE
>>> The Shasta River video weir, located close to the Klamath River,
>>> was damaged on Dec. 9 by the icy conditions in the river.
>>> After a large influx of Coho salmon in the past few weeks, the
>>> Scott River has seen its largest return of the species since 2007.?
>>> The latest data from the California Department of Fish and
>>> Wildlife video weirs on the Klamath?s tributaries shows a
>>> relatively strong return this year for Chinook and Coho, with
>>> the Scott?s Chinook numbers as of Dec. 10 coming in just under
>>> the seven year average weir data. Final counts for the Scott
>>> also rely on carcass and spawning area counts, which have not
>>> yet been finalized.?
>>> On Bogus Creek, the numbers of Chinook and Coho passing the
>>> video weir have trickled to a halt, with only one Coho returning
>>> between Dec. 4 and Dec. 10.?
>>> So far, the Bogus numbers are 3,143 Chinook and 290 Coho, which
>>> the data shows is the strongest Coho return since 2004 and the
>>> third-smallest Chinook return in that same time period.?
>>> The end of season for the Shasta counts was called on Dec. 10,
>>> due to ice floes damaging the weir on Dec. 9. The Chinook count
>>> came in at 8,127, the third-largest return since 2001, with 151
>>> Coho, the highest number of that species since 2007.?
>>> The Scott and Bogus weirs are still operating, according to
>>> CDFW?environmental scientist Morgan Knechtle, and once the final
>>> numbers are compiled and finalized, they will be used in
>>> forecasts for 2014.
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>>> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:47:59 -0800
>>> From: "Sari Sommarstrom" <sari at sisqtel.net
>>> <mailto:sari at sisqtel.net>>
>>> Subject: Re: [env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run
>>> largest since 2007
>>> To: "'Tom Stokely'" <tstokely at att.net <mailto:tstokely at att.net>>,
>>> <env-trinity at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
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>>>
>>> What was missing from the article was the actual number of coho
>>> seen at the weir at RM 18 on the Scott River: 1,264 adults as of
>>> 12/18. Final figure won?t be available until after the weir
>>> closes in early January and the downstream estimate is added in.
>>>
>>> For this same brood year, the recent figure compares with the
>>> final weir counts of 911 in 2010 and 1,622 in 2007.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~Sari Sommarstrom
>>>
>>> Etna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: env-trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
>>> <mailto:env-trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us>
>>> [mailto:env-trinity-bounces at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
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>>> Behalf Of Tom Stokely
>>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:15 AM
>>> To: env-trinity at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us
>>> <mailto:env-trinity at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us>
>>> Subject: [env-trinity] Siskiyou Daily News: Scott River Coho run
>>> largest since 2007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/article/20131217/NEWS/131219773
>>>
>>> December 17. 2013 9:48AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott River Coho run largest since 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> The Shasta River video weir,located close to the Klamath River,
>>> was damaged on Dec. 9 by the icy conditions in the river.
>>> <http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/storyimage/CA/20131217/NEWS/131219773/AR/0/AR-131219773.jpg&MaxH=225&MaxW=225>
>>>
>>> PHOTO/ PHOTO COURTESY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE
>>>
>>> The Shasta River video weir, located close to the Klamath River,
>>> was damaged on Dec. 9 by the icy conditions in the river.
>>>
>>> After a large influx of Coho salmon in the past few weeks, the
>>> Scott River has seen its largest return of the species since 2007.
>>> The latest data from the California Department of Fish and
>>> Wildlife video weirs on the Klamath?s tributaries shows a
>>> relatively strong return this year for Chinook and Coho, with
>>> the Scott?s Chinook numbers as of Dec. 10 coming in just under
>>> the seven year average weir data. Final counts for the Scott
>>> also rely on carcass and spawning area counts, which have not
>>> yet been finalized.
>>> On Bogus Creek, the numbers of Chinook and Coho passing the
>>> video weir have trickled to a halt, with only one Coho returning
>>> between Dec. 4 and Dec. 10.
>>> So far, the Bogus numbers are 3,143 Chinook and 290 Coho, which
>>> the data shows is the strongest Coho return since 2004 and the
>>> third-smallest Chinook return in that same time period.
>>> The end of season for the Shasta counts was called on Dec. 10,
>>> due to ice floes damaging the weir on Dec. 9. The Chinook count
>>> came in at 8,127, the third-largest return since 2001, with 151
>>> Coho, the highest number of that species since 2007.
>>> The Scott and Bogus weirs are still operating, according to
>>> CDFW?environmental scientist Morgan Knechtle, and once the final
>>> numbers are compiled and finalized, they will be used in
>>> forecasts for 2014.
>>>
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>>> --
>>> Felice Pace
>>> Klamath, CA 95548
>>> 707-954-6588
>>>
>>> "we must always seek the truth in our opponents' error and the error
>>> in our own truth."
>>>
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