<div dir="ltr"><div>There is evidence that the "examples of how these are mismanaged and eventually fail, or are forced to be picked up by a private entity" are written by organizations funded by cable and telephone companies to scare other communities from not investing in networks.</div><div><br></div><div>There are some networks that were poorly run by munis but the vast majority have been successful. You rarely see people claiming that big corporations are unable to run networks because they screw it up despite a pretty rotten record in many ways.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Denver is not proposing, as best I can tell, to build some kind of citywide ISP. They want some basic authority for limited investments specifically aimed at families that the market is not interested in serving. <br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Christopher Mitchell</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Director, Community Broadband Networks</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Institute for Local Self-Reliance</span><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br><a href="http://www.muninetworks.org/" target="_blank">MuniNetworks.org</a><br><div>@communitynets</div><div>612-545-5185</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 10:47 AM Trey Scarborough <<a href="mailto:trey@3dsc.co">trey@3dsc.co</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I would agree they typically do improve service in areas where
they will be likely to get the recognition and return on
investment when threatened. The problem comes in when the
municipalities actually build some companies like ATT use it as an
excuse to abandon portions of there network that don't make money.
There are also many examples of how these are mismanaged and
eventually fail, or are forced to be picked up by a private
entity.<br>
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<div>On 8/2/20 8:49 AM, Steve Ross wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">My data from every USA county shows that when
municipalities can threaten to build, carriers fall into line
and improve service.
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<div dir="auto">I might add that no carrier has ever disputed
the data.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 10:24 PM
John Osmon <<a href="mailto:josmon@rigozsaurus.com" target="_blank">josmon@rigozsaurus.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">No -- Denver
city government should not enter the internet business to<br>
compete with Comcast.<br>
<br>
However, Denver *SHOULD* provide connectivity between
residents and<br>
multiple ISPs so that the citizens can partake in a true
competitive<br>
market.<br>
<br>
If you utilize the public right of way, you should not be able
to be an<br>
ISP. You can merely connect end users to the ISP of their
choice.<br>
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On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 05:40:21PM -0600, Tom Johnson wrote:<br>
> <a href="https://www.denverpost.com/2020/08/01/denver-municipal-internet/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.denverpost.com/2020/08/01/denver-municipal-internet/</a><br>
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