[1st-mile-nm] URGENT: Satellite Internet v. Cable/Fiber Internet: costs and benefits?
Gillian Densmore
gil.densmore at gmail.com
Wed Dec 29 06:51:07 PST 2021
that's great richard.
When are we going to se some, ya know action? Fact is the QOL for cellular
and internet in NM is bairly about 1990. many people in NM don't even
qualify for the GD bairmin of the FCC's just stupid 25megs? what drugs is
the industry on, and in what reality is that even remotely close to ok?
2020 should have proven that with comcast having a fucking monoply, some
actual, real, action the bitching about memos, and pole rights. Their's a
god damn loop of plastic for getting fiber close to the curb, and what's
been done with it? who knows?
In that time Musk has put tin-cans in orbit with better fucking QA then the
god damn industry litterally on the ground has. It's not cute, or ok, or
cool to for a bunch of PHDs and smart motherfuckers for telecomunications
to go oh hey heres ordance 99 title 5g subsection 501c3 that says its ok
to start digging and we'll get 30megs to someareas around 2090.
Ya'all have a bunch of doctrates, and know an amazing amount about how the
fucking internet works. So where's the fucking action? we--just bairly now
get kinda-sort-of-ok QA and QOS because tmobile has a fucking publicity
nightmare. and now is getting people onto their 5g network and fucking DSL
speeds? RLY?!
Wake me up when we hit the year 2k for speed, quality and latency.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 10:26 AM John Badal <jbadal at sacredwindnm.com> wrote:
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> *From:* 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> *On Behalf Of *Robert
> Jacobson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 28, 2021 9:46 AM
> *To:* 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> *Subject:* [1st-mile-nm] URGENT: Satellite Internet v. Cable/Fiber
> Internet: costs and benefits?
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> Dear 1st Mile Friends,
>
>
>
> I’m preparing an application for a state broadband grant
> and need your input to knowledgeably ask for funding for what purposes.
> Here’s why...
>
>
>
> Our household experience with SpaceX's StarLink broadband
> service has been great (250-300Mbps down, 25Mbps up), no weather
> interference, etc. The modem supplied with the two-foot self-aiming
> antenna is powerful enough that my neighbor’s visitors 20 yards away can
> camp on it. (We’re friends.)
>
>
>
> Every device in our home, now connected to the StarLink
> modem, is running at max speed. Total cost so far has been ~$495 for the
> gear, one hour for easy installation (my own labor), and ~$90 per month for
> access to the satellites. (We haven’t gotten our first monthly invoice.)
>
>
>
> We do pay extra for some online fare, but not to SpaceX.
> It goes directly to Apple, Showtime, Netflix, various Patreon podcasts, etc.
>
>
>
> Providers of “conventional" broadband modalities — cable
> and fiber —must string cable/fiber overhead and/or bury it in conduits and
> trenches; and must build local networks to distribute data to offices and
> households. Providers may require their homeowner, office, ranch, etc.
> customers to own additional gear.
>
>
>
> Also, they may have fees to pay for channels they resell
> to customers, links from fiber to cable, their own tower or satellite
> expenses, etc. They pass along most of these expenses to their
> local-government and household/office subscribers.
>
>
>
> Each modality must provide quality service to its
> customers and generate earnings for its owners.
>
>
>
> My questions to my 1st-Mile colleagues:
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>
>
> 1. In your experience, what are comparable numbers for
> satellite internet vs conventional cable and/or fiber to the home in a
> rural setting with about 450 households concentrated on one mile of highway
> (that is supposed one day to be wired with fiber per state dictates) and
> another 100 on the perimeter.
>
>
>
> If you were writing a grant for this purpose, on which
> modality would you rely? Special conditions?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your rapid reply. We have to file our
> application January 31st, latest!
>
>
>
> Bob Jacobson
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> Atelier Tomorrow Inc.
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> A Nonprofit Consultancy
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> Patagonia, AZ 85624
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> (520) 370-1259
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> 1. FCC Telehealth Funding in NM (Richard Lowenberg)
> 2. USDA Distance Learning and Telemedicine Grants: NM
> (Richard Lowenberg)
> 3. Comcast brings 1.2 Gbps fiber internet to Gallup, NM
> (Richard Lowenberg)
> 4. Vexus Fiber readies FTTP plus 10G for Albuquerque
> (Richard Lowenberg)
> 5. Federal Broadband Funding: Overviews (Richard Lowenberg)
> 6. Re: Federal Broadband Funding: Overviews (Owen Densmore)
> 7. Fwd: NM DOIT/CTC WEBINAR INVITE: Overview - USDA Reconnect
> Loan and Grant Program (Richard Lowenberg)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 14:32:38 -0600
> From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Telehealth Funding in NM
> Message-ID: <7683940b09984d38cfde46fd96c33ede at 1st-mile.org>
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> FCC ANNOUNCES AN ADDITIONAL $40.46 MILLION AWARDED
> AS PART OF COVID-19 TELEHEALTH PROGRAM
>
> WASHINGTON, October 21, 2021?The Federal Communications Commission today
> approved an additional 71 applications for funding commitments totaling
> $40,468,845 for
> Round 2 of its COVID-19 Telehealth Program. This is the FCC?s third
> funding announcement
> of approved Round 2 applications bringing the total to approximately
> $123.6 million awarded to health care providers in each state,
> territory, and the District of Columbia.
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-announces-third-set-awards-covid-19-telehealth-round-2-0
>
> Funded in NM:
>
> First Nations Community HealthSource in Albuquerque, New Mexico, a
> Federally
> Qualified Health Center that serves Tribal and Hispanic communities, was
> awarded
> $655,395 for laptops and connected devices that support remote patient
> monitoring,
> which will help ensure proper treatment of patients in their homes
> without requiring inperson visits during the COVID-19 pandemic.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:47:49 -0600
> From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] USDA Distance Learning and Telemedicine Grants:
> NM
> Message-ID: <54ab3bfc9d81ba0fb16599b78a5364bc at 1st-mile.org>
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> The USDA has announced its latest Distance Learning and
> Telemedicine Grants, with one award in NM.
>
> Ben Archer Health Center, Inc. $90,372
>
> This Rural Development investment will be used to assist the
> Health Education and Access to Learning (HEAL) Project.
> The HEAL Project will deliver distance learning to rural and
> exceptionally rural individuals in Northern Dona Ana, Sierra,
> Otero and Luna Counties, New Mexico. The HEAL Project will
> affect an estimate 97,000 people directly or indirectly in
> southern New Mexico.
>
>
> https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2021/10/22/usda-make-115-billion-available-help-people-living-rural
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> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 11:03:14 -0600
> From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Comcast brings 1.2 Gbps fiber internet to
> Gallup, NM
> Message-ID: <ab3c62d0dea5cdad762b5c01a5fb7038 at 1st-mile.org>
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> Comcast brings 1.2 Gbps fiber internet to Gallup, NM
>
> Oct. 28, 2021
>
>
> https://www.broadbandtechreport.com/fiber/article/14213037/comcast-brings-12gbps-fiber-internet-to-gallup-nm
>
> Currently, more than 9,000 homes and businesses have access to Comcast?s
> network in Gallup, New Mexico.
>
> In New Mexico, Comcast this month announced the company has introduced
> additional Internet speed tiers for homes and small businesses in the
> Gallup area, with internet speeds up to 1.2 Gbps now available to new
> and existing customers.
>
> Currently, more than 9,000 homes and businesses have access to Comcast?s
> network in Gallup. Consumers have access to all of the company's Xfinity
> Internet packages including 50 Mbps, 100 Mbps, 300 Mbps, 600 Mbps, 900
> Mbps, and 1.2 Gig speed tiers. From supporting four connected devices at
> a time, to speeds designed for heavy streamers, Gallup residents have a
> variety of Comcast options to keep them connected.
>
> Bill Lee, CEO, Gallup-McKinley County Chamber of Commerce, commented,
> ?Fast and reliable broadband is a key component of a vibrant economy. As
> Gallup businesses continue to recover from the impacts of the pandemic,
> it is good to see Comcast?s investment in our community to help ensure
> that new and existing businesses will have the bandwidth needed to
> succeed in the digital economy. With Internet speeds ranging from 50
> Mbps to 1.2 Gigabits, Gallup can continue to recruit more industry
> sectors into our community, and help existing businesses grow.?
>
> Additionally, Comcast announced it will continue to offer its low-cost,
> high-speed Internet program, Internet Essentials, to help provide more
> low-income households in Gallup with the tools and resources they need
> to succeed in an increasingly digital world. The program provides 50
> Mbps at-home internet access to low-income households for $9.95 per
> month. Households that qualify for programs like the National School
> Lunch Program, housing assistance, Medicaid, SNAP, SSI, and others may
> qualify for Internet Essentials.
>
> Since the program launched in 2011, Comcast says it has connected
> 296,000 low-income New Mexicans to the power of the Internet at home,
> including 2,800 individuals in Gallup.
>
> Sarah Piano, Managing Regional Director for Big Brothers Big Sisters
> Mountain Region, asserted, ?When Comcast operates in your community, you
> can count on them to provide support to local nonprofits and community
> organizations. Comcast is a long-standing partner and an amazing
> supporter of our critical mentoring work in Gallup and across New
> Mexico. Their Internet Essentials program is extremely affordable and
> helped us connect dozens of our families to an at-home Internet
> connection, which was critical this past year more than ever. Comcast
> genuinely cares about the communities they work in and continually
> strives to make things better for the families within those communities.
> We are so grateful for their partnership.?
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 11:07:23 -0600
> From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Vexus Fiber readies FTTP plus 10G for
> Albuquerque
> Message-ID: <0114b6cb6971ea70e4960e39bd20346d at 1st-mile.org>
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> Vexus Fiber readies FTTP plus 10G for Albuquerque
>
> Nov. 1, 2021
>
> https://www.broadbandtechreport.com/fiber/article/14213181/vexus-fiber-readies-fttp-plus-10g-for-albuquerque
>
> Company plans $250 million investment for its latest 100% fiber
> broadband project.
>
> Vexus Fiber announced on Oct. 28 that it will be bringing its 100%
> fiber-to-the-home (FTTH) network to the city of Albuquerque, New Mexico.
> The company said it will invest $250 million in the infrastructure of
> the network and create 200 jobs in the construction phase over the next
> three years.
>
> Vexus added that it will be building a 10 gigabit network, "so that as
> devices get faster in the future, customers will have an internet option
> that can keep up." Broadband packages with symmetrical upload and
> download speeds up to one gigabit will be initially available to
> customers. The network will be available for both homes and businesses
> and will be 100% fiber-to-the-premises (FTTP), "meaning fewer
> connectivity issues for customers," added a Vexus statement.
>
> Vexus Fiber said it plans to begin engineering for the project
> immediately and start construction early next year. Completion of the
> network is expected by 2024, but the network will be activated in
> stages, so that some areas of the city will see service available
> beginning in 2022.
>
> Albuquerque Mayor Tim Keller commented, ?In the past year, it has become
> clear that internet is not just a quality-of-life issue, but a fast,
> reliable connection for every family and business is necessary for
> learning and working too. High-speed fiber represents a major investment
> in our infrastructure, creating hundreds of jobs for Albuquerque and
> providing us with another key asset as we recruit more companies to our
> city. This investment in a ubiquitous fiber network is also necessary to
> make sure that no one is left behind in the quest for universal
> affordable access to high-speed broadband services (that is, to ?bridge
> the digital divide?). We welcome Vexus along with other fiber developers
> who are interested in investing in ABQ and appreciate their confidence
> in this great City.?
>
> In addition to the 200 construction jobs the project will create, the
> company plans to create 150 permanent jobs with the opening of a local
> office and storefront.
>
> ?We are excited to announce the expansion of fiber high-speed broadband
> into Albuquerque,? said Jim Gleason, CEO of Vexus Fiber. ?We are
> thrilled to become a part of the City of Albuquerque and see the area as
> a terrific place for business. This network of the future will help
> foster additional growth and economic development for the area.?
>
> Vexus has committed to building its fiber network throughout the entire
> city and says it will provide service to all corners of Albuquerque. To
> date, the company notes has installed successful high-speed fiber
> networks in over 35 cities in Texas and Louisiana.
>
> ?This is a real win for the residents of our city,? said Dan Serrano,
> CEO of the city's Westside Chamber of Commerce. ?Vexus is bringing
> construction and permanent jobs with its expansion to Albuquerque as
> well as faster connectivity for residents.?
>
> Vexus notes "the cost of the new service will be comparable to the other
> services provided in the city today, but with better performance." The
> first phase of the network could be available to Albuquerque residents
> by summer 2022, according to company representatives.
>
> Learn more at www.connect.vexusfiber.com
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2021 12:42:38 -0700
> From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Federal Broadband Funding: Overviews
> Message-ID: <751ebe36257b955814b81a8861608f57 at 1st-mile.org>
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> Here are two postings that provide excellent information on the just
> Congressionally passed Federal Broadband Funding Programs.
>
> From the Benton Institute:
> https://www.benton.org/blog/largest-us-investment-broadband-deployment-ever
>
> CCG?s POTs and PANs blog:
>
> https://potsandpansbyccg.com/2021/11/08/the-broadband-equity-access-and-deployment-program/
>
> RL
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 16:01:31 -0700
> From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
> To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> Cc: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Federal Broadband Funding: Overviews
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> Interesting! How will this impact NM? Hopefully we'll finally have
> affordable, high speed, multiple provider internet for everyone.
>
> -- Owen
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 12:42 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:
>
>
> Here are two postings that provide excellent information on the just
> Congressionally passed Federal Broadband Funding Programs.
>
> From the Benton Institute:
> https://www.benton.org/blog/largest-us-investment-broadband-deployment-ever
>
> CCG?s POTs and PANs blog:
>
>
> https://potsandpansbyccg.com/2021/11/08/the-broadband-equity-access-and-deployment-program/
>
> RL
>
>
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> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
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> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: NM DOIT/CTC WEBINAR INVITE: Overview -
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> Subject: NM DOIT/CTC WEBINAR INVITE: Overview - USDA Reconnect Loan and
> Grant Program
> Date: 2021-11-15 17:28
> From: "Clarke, George, DoIT" <george.clarke at state.nm.us>
> Cc: "Tilton, Rand, DoIT" <Rand.Tilton at state.nm.us>, "Karen White
> (kwhite at ctcnet.us)" <kwhite at ctcnet.us>
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> ReConnect Loan and Grant Program Workshop
>
> The _New Mexico Department of Information Technology_ (NM DoIT) has
> partnered with _CTC Technology & Energy_ to host a workshop on the
> USDA's Broadband ReConnect program.
>
> This informational workshop will provide detail regarding opportunities
> associated with the USDA ReConnect Program. This program furnishes loans
> and grants to provide funds for the costs of construction, improvement,
> and/or acquisition of facilities and equipment needed to provide
> broadband service to eligible rural areas.
>
> The USDA's Broadband ReConnect Program new rules dramatically expand
> eligibility and effectively redefine broadband. Entities that can apply
> for ReConnect assistance include corporations, limited liability
> companies/partnerships, cooperative or mutual organizations,
> states/local governments including
> agency/subdivision/instrumentality/political subdivision, and Tribal (as
> defined in Section 4 of the Indian Self-Determination and Education
> Assistance Act (25 U.S.C. 450b)).
>
> Please join us as we review the program's new rules, provide guidance on
> how to take advantage of this funding opportunity, and share tips on how
> to position your application.
>
> The ReConnect Loan and Grant Program Workshop will be held on Wednesday,
> November 17 from 9:00 a.m. - 10:00 a.m. MDT. In this workshop, there
> will be time to provide answers and strategic direction to participants.
>
>
> Register in advance for this meeting:
>
> https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJElcOyuqzsvHtIJvHxkULVAbtPhK8zyAE7t
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> After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing
> information about joining the meeting.
>
> Thank you,
>
> DoIT New Mexico Broadband Program and CTC Technology and Energy
>
>
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> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
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