[1st-mile-nm] 1st-mile-nm Digest, Vol 159, Issue 7
Timothy L. Thomas
drtlesterthomas at gmail.com
Fri Jan 24 11:14:18 PST 2020
It is not strange and meaningless, but it is indeed
ambiguous as viewed by technical experts.
I hope the essence of this thread is communicated
back to the stakeholders and promoters and that
they work with tech experts to make the statement
precise, but still brief and positive/promotional.
This will maximize the benefit, eh?
It can/should be a great thing, if managed correctly.
-TLT
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> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 10:48:06 -0700
> From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Santa Fe Plaza Free WiFi
> Message-ID: <d445e431e780667763dc142d88969437 at 1st-mile.org>
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> Free Wi-Fi available on Santa Fe's Plaza
>
> By Teya Vitu tvitu at sfnewmexican.com Jan 23, 2020
>
>
> https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/free-wi-fi-available-on-santa-fe-s-plaza/article_25b1835a-3d40-11ea-85b3-1febccff8d79.html
>
> The city of Santa Fe has quietly gone live with free Wi-Fi service on
> the Plaza.
>
> The project, part of a wider effort by the Santa Fe Chamber of
> Commerce?s broadband working group to improve internet access across
> Santa Fe County, can be found at ?SF Plaza Free WiFi.? Neither the city
> nor the chamber has publicly announced the service, but the system has
> been tested, with 7,704 unique users since April.
>
> Local internet service provider Cyber Mesa contracted with the city to
> install and manage the system, which is fed by fiber-optic internet
> service and includes four wireless access points ? point-to-point
> internet backhaul radios on the roofs of the Market Station building at
> the Railyard, where some city offices are located, and another downtown
> building.
>
> The system provides 1 gigabyte of internet service with a speed of 10
> megabytes per second and a capacity of 1,000 users at once, said Stephen
> Resnick, who chairs the chamber?s broadband working group and is the
> owner of Capitol Computer & Network Solutions.
>
> ?If you can get 5 megabytes when you are out and about, that?s great to
> find restaurants, galleries, take a video and upload it to the cloud,?
> Resnick said. ?Really, 5 [megabytes] is a good minimum.?
>
> The working group for the past year or two has been trying to find ways
> to improve internet service across the county through free Wi-Fi,
> improved broadband and, in some rural areas, new broadband internet
> service.
>
> The free Plaza Wi-Fi service is the group?s first completed project,
> funded with $18,859 from Tourism Santa Fe, the city?s convention and
> visitors bureau. The cost to maintain the service is about $800 per
> month, said Randy Randall, Tourism Santa Fe?s executive director.
>
> ?We wanted the Plaza to be a proof of concept,? Resnick said.
>
> The broadband working group is composed of representatives from the city
> and Santa Fe County economic development departments, Santa Fe Public
> Schools and the Regional Economic Development Initiative Network, better
> known as REDI Net. The Northern New Mexico network is governed by three
> counties, one city, four pueblos and the North Central New Mexico
> Economic Development District.
>
> ?We do plan to expand [free Wi-Fi] from the Plaza,? said Chris Hyer, the
> county?s economic development manager and a working group member.
>
> Justin Greene, founder of Dashing Delivery and the Tesuque Pueblo
> representative at REDI Net, said the group could easily expand service
> to the Santa Fe Farmers Market Pavilion and Railyard Park from the
> Market Station building.
>
> In coming weeks, he said, window stickers will be made available to
> downtown businesses to bring awareness about the Plaza Wi-Fi service.
>
> Free Wi-Fi also could come to Santa Fe neighborhoods through the school
> district, which so far has installed fiber-optic cable at 25 locations
> where wireless access points could be installed.
>
> ?It?s possible we can get a few [wireless access points] up by the end
> of the year, ? said Patricia Nordby, director of technology at Santa Fe
> Public Schools.
>
> Free wireless internet access emerged in the 2000s, and service provided
> by local governments has since become commonplace across the country and
> around the world.
>
> The city of Albuquerque has been offering free Wi-Fi at various
> facilities since 2006. Las Cruces just launched free Wi-Fi on Sept. 12,
> and the Los Alamos Network internet service provider has provided free
> Wi-Fi at various downtown locations for about three years.
>
> ?Where there is good internet service available, you can do free Wi-Fi,?
> Resnick said.
>
> Santa Fe County wants to establish a network of point-to-point internet
> connections across the county, but broadband service must be improved or
> established in rural areas before that can happen, Hyer said.
>
> The key is finding funding sources for these projects, such as Tourism
> Santa Fe for the Plaza Wi-Fi project.
>
> The broadband working group sees potential for collaboration.
>
> ?We want to interconnect city, county and school fiber optic systems and
> provide redundancies and extend the reach of broadband access across the
> county,? Greene said.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 10:54:58 -0700
> From: John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>
> Cc: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Santa Fe Plaza Free WiFi
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>
> Hi, It would be good to make sure the units of measurement are accurate.
>
> 1 GigaBYTE of service seems unlikely.
> They probably mean 1GigaBIT.
>
> But then they could be doing 1GigaBYTE is the maximum number of bytes they
> will
> allow to be transferred, which is hardly anything. Sending a couple
> dozen photos
> could consume that.
>
> By making sure we quote and report accurate units of measurement it
> will help make accurate
> comparisons between other communities, and will help policy people
> with accurate info as well.
>
> Would you want 100cents or 100dollars ?? 100 is just 100
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:49 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Free Wi-Fi available on Santa Fe's Plaza
> >
> > By Teya Vitu tvitu at sfnewmexican.com Jan 23, 2020
> >
> >
> https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/free-wi-fi-available-on-santa-fe-s-plaza/article_25b1835a-3d40-11ea-85b3-1febccff8d79.html
> >
> > The city of Santa Fe has quietly gone live with free Wi-Fi service on
> > the Plaza.
> >
> > The project, part of a wider effort by the Santa Fe Chamber of
> > Commerce?s broadband working group to improve internet access across
> > Santa Fe County, can be found at ?SF Plaza Free WiFi.? Neither the city
> > nor the chamber has publicly announced the service, but the system has
> > been tested, with 7,704 unique users since April.
> >
> > Local internet service provider Cyber Mesa contracted with the city to
> > install and manage the system, which is fed by fiber-optic internet
> > service and includes four wireless access points ? point-to-point
> > internet backhaul radios on the roofs of the Market Station building at
> > the Railyard, where some city offices are located, and another downtown
> > building.
> >
> > The system provides 1 gigabyte of internet service with a speed of 10
> > megabytes per second and a capacity of 1,000 users at once, said Stephen
> > Resnick, who chairs the chamber?s broadband working group and is the
> > owner of Capitol Computer & Network Solutions.
> >
> > ?If you can get 5 megabytes when you are out and about, that?s great to
> > find restaurants, galleries, take a video and upload it to the cloud,?
> > Resnick said. ?Really, 5 [megabytes] is a good minimum.?
> >
> > The working group for the past year or two has been trying to find ways
> > to improve internet service across the county through free Wi-Fi,
> > improved broadband and, in some rural areas, new broadband internet
> > service.
> >
> > The free Plaza Wi-Fi service is the group?s first completed project,
> > funded with $18,859 from Tourism Santa Fe, the city?s convention and
> > visitors bureau. The cost to maintain the service is about $800 per
> > month, said Randy Randall, Tourism Santa Fe?s executive director.
> >
> > ?We wanted the Plaza to be a proof of concept,? Resnick said.
> >
> > The broadband working group is composed of representatives from the city
> > and Santa Fe County economic development departments, Santa Fe Public
> > Schools and the Regional Economic Development Initiative Network, better
> > known as REDI Net. The Northern New Mexico network is governed by three
> > counties, one city, four pueblos and the North Central New Mexico
> > Economic Development District.
> >
> > ?We do plan to expand [free Wi-Fi] from the Plaza,? said Chris Hyer, the
> > county?s economic development manager and a working group member.
> >
> > Justin Greene, founder of Dashing Delivery and the Tesuque Pueblo
> > representative at REDI Net, said the group could easily expand service
> > to the Santa Fe Farmers Market Pavilion and Railyard Park from the
> > Market Station building.
> >
> > In coming weeks, he said, window stickers will be made available to
> > downtown businesses to bring awareness about the Plaza Wi-Fi service.
> >
> > Free Wi-Fi also could come to Santa Fe neighborhoods through the school
> > district, which so far has installed fiber-optic cable at 25 locations
> > where wireless access points could be installed.
> >
> > ?It?s possible we can get a few [wireless access points] up by the end
> > of the year, ? said Patricia Nordby, director of technology at Santa Fe
> > Public Schools.
> >
> > Free wireless internet access emerged in the 2000s, and service provided
> > by local governments has since become commonplace across the country and
> > around the world.
> >
> > The city of Albuquerque has been offering free Wi-Fi at various
> > facilities since 2006. Las Cruces just launched free Wi-Fi on Sept. 12,
> > and the Los Alamos Network internet service provider has provided free
> > Wi-Fi at various downtown locations for about three years.
> >
> > ?Where there is good internet service available, you can do free Wi-Fi,?
> > Resnick said.
> >
> > Santa Fe County wants to establish a network of point-to-point internet
> > connections across the county, but broadband service must be improved or
> > established in rural areas before that can happen, Hyer said.
> >
> > The key is finding funding sources for these projects, such as Tourism
> > Santa Fe for the Plaza Wi-Fi project.
> >
> > The broadband working group sees potential for collaboration.
> >
> > ?We want to interconnect city, county and school fiber optic systems and
> > provide redundancies and extend the reach of broadband access across the
> > county,? Greene said.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> > 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> > Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> > rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Respectfully,
>
> John Brown, CISSP
> Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 11:18:55 -0700
> From: Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com>
> To: John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>
> Cc: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Santa Fe Plaza Free WiFi
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>
> Indeed. this is kind of a strange and meaningless statement:
>
> The system provides 1 gigabyte of internet service with a speed of 10
> > megabytes per second and a capacity of 1,000 users at once, said Stephen
> > Resnick, who chairs the chamber?s broadband working group and is the
> > owner of Capitol Computer & Network Solutions.
>
>
>
> ?If you can get 5 megabytes when you are out and about, that?s great to
> > find restaurants, galleries, take a video and upload it to the cloud,?
> > Resnick said. ?Really, 5 [megabytes] is a good minimum.?
>
>
> What they probably mean is that there is a 1Gbps feed, each user is capped
> at 10Mbps, and that 5Mbps is "a good minimum" to do stuff.
>
> Of course, the way the article is written, it is not obvious ;)
>
> -Michael
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:56 AM John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi, It would be good to make sure the units of measurement are
> accurate.
> >
> > 1 GigaBYTE of service seems unlikely.
> > They probably mean 1GigaBIT.
> >
> > But then they could be doing 1GigaBYTE is the maximum number of bytes
> they
> > will
> > allow to be transferred, which is hardly anything. Sending a couple
> > dozen photos
> > could consume that.
> >
> > By making sure we quote and report accurate units of measurement it
> > will help make accurate
> > comparisons between other communities, and will help policy people
> > with accurate info as well.
> >
> > Would you want 100cents or 100dollars ?? 100 is just 100
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:49 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Free Wi-Fi available on Santa Fe's Plaza
> > >
> > > By Teya Vitu tvitu at sfnewmexican.com Jan 23, 2020
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/free-wi-fi-available-on-santa-fe-s-plaza/article_25b1835a-3d40-11ea-85b3-1febccff8d79.html
> > >
> > > The city of Santa Fe has quietly gone live with free Wi-Fi service on
> > > the Plaza.
> > >
> > > The project, part of a wider effort by the Santa Fe Chamber of
> > > Commerce?s broadband working group to improve internet access across
> > > Santa Fe County, can be found at ?SF Plaza Free WiFi.? Neither the city
> > > nor the chamber has publicly announced the service, but the system has
> > > been tested, with 7,704 unique users since April.
> > >
> > > Local internet service provider Cyber Mesa contracted with the city to
> > > install and manage the system, which is fed by fiber-optic internet
> > > service and includes four wireless access points ? point-to-point
> > > internet backhaul radios on the roofs of the Market Station building at
> > > the Railyard, where some city offices are located, and another downtown
> > > building.
> > >
> > > The system provides 1 gigabyte of internet service with a speed of 10
> > > megabytes per second and a capacity of 1,000 users at once, said
> Stephen
> > > Resnick, who chairs the chamber?s broadband working group and is the
> > > owner of Capitol Computer & Network Solutions.
> > >
> > > ?If you can get 5 megabytes when you are out and about, that?s great to
> > > find restaurants, galleries, take a video and upload it to the cloud,?
> > > Resnick said. ?Really, 5 [megabytes] is a good minimum.?
> > >
> > > The working group for the past year or two has been trying to find ways
> > > to improve internet service across the county through free Wi-Fi,
> > > improved broadband and, in some rural areas, new broadband internet
> > > service.
> > >
> > > The free Plaza Wi-Fi service is the group?s first completed project,
> > > funded with $18,859 from Tourism Santa Fe, the city?s convention and
> > > visitors bureau. The cost to maintain the service is about $800 per
> > > month, said Randy Randall, Tourism Santa Fe?s executive director.
> > >
> > > ?We wanted the Plaza to be a proof of concept,? Resnick said.
> > >
> > > The broadband working group is composed of representatives from the
> city
> > > and Santa Fe County economic development departments, Santa Fe Public
> > > Schools and the Regional Economic Development Initiative Network,
> better
> > > known as REDI Net. The Northern New Mexico network is governed by three
> > > counties, one city, four pueblos and the North Central New Mexico
> > > Economic Development District.
> > >
> > > ?We do plan to expand [free Wi-Fi] from the Plaza,? said Chris Hyer,
> the
> > > county?s economic development manager and a working group member.
> > >
> > > Justin Greene, founder of Dashing Delivery and the Tesuque Pueblo
> > > representative at REDI Net, said the group could easily expand service
> > > to the Santa Fe Farmers Market Pavilion and Railyard Park from the
> > > Market Station building.
> > >
> > > In coming weeks, he said, window stickers will be made available to
> > > downtown businesses to bring awareness about the Plaza Wi-Fi service.
> > >
> > > Free Wi-Fi also could come to Santa Fe neighborhoods through the school
> > > district, which so far has installed fiber-optic cable at 25 locations
> > > where wireless access points could be installed.
> > >
> > > ?It?s possible we can get a few [wireless access points] up by the end
> > > of the year, ? said Patricia Nordby, director of technology at Santa Fe
> > > Public Schools.
> > >
> > > Free wireless internet access emerged in the 2000s, and service
> provided
> > > by local governments has since become commonplace across the country
> and
> > > around the world.
> > >
> > > The city of Albuquerque has been offering free Wi-Fi at various
> > > facilities since 2006. Las Cruces just launched free Wi-Fi on Sept. 12,
> > > and the Los Alamos Network internet service provider has provided free
> > > Wi-Fi at various downtown locations for about three years.
> > >
> > > ?Where there is good internet service available, you can do free
> Wi-Fi,?
> > > Resnick said.
> > >
> > > Santa Fe County wants to establish a network of point-to-point internet
> > > connections across the county, but broadband service must be improved
> or
> > > established in rural areas before that can happen, Hyer said.
> > >
> > > The key is finding funding sources for these projects, such as Tourism
> > > Santa Fe for the Plaza Wi-Fi project.
> > >
> > > The broadband working group sees potential for collaboration.
> > >
> > > ?We want to interconnect city, county and school fiber optic systems
> and
> > > provide redundancies and extend the reach of broadband access across
> the
> > > county,? Greene said.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> > > 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
> > > Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> > > rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > John Brown, CISSP
> > Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Michael Harris
> --
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