[1st-mile-nm] Long Haul Broadband Access

John Badal jbadal at sacredwindnm.com
Mon Dec 23 08:43:50 PST 2019


Robert,

Our company uses Cambium distribution and subscriber radio equipment at 5.8Ghz and 3.65Ghz bandwidth to several thousand homes on 3200 sq miles of the Navajo Rez in NW New Mexico.  The 5.8Ghz is great for 100Mbps download LOS over short distances and the 3.65Ghz can provide 10Mbps-25Mbps over several miles LOS, with lower speeds even up to 12-15 miles. We’re seriously looking at the 2.5Ghz auction at the FCC late next year, which portends to offer 25Mbps download over even greater distances and Non-LOS. We currently provide fiber to the premise (large business and a HUD development) to our Navajo areas and are developing a larger scaled model of that hybrid system outside of our territory where we plan fiber to the premise in concentrated areas of a town, and fiber to the tower for fixed wireless at 50 - 100Mbps download to the homes that are more spread out.

Feel free to email me directly if you’d like to see what we do.

John

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From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of Michael Harris
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:13 AM
To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Long Haul Broadband Access

Hi Robert,

I would say that fixed wireless is probably the best option in a situation like yours. The center of the town gets wired broadband, then you have a few towers around connecting the neighbors further away. There are lots of people on this list in the WISP industry who I'm sure would be happy to help consult (myself included).

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On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 1:11 AM Robert Jacobson <robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com<mailto:robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>> wrote:
Hi Richard,

I’m working with the Town of Patagonia, AZ, on its first broadband plan.

While it’s easy to see how a fiber drop and 5G transceivers can serve the majority of this 900-person community, it’s less obvious how to reach individuals beyond the immediate residential and business vicinity.  Ironically, I’m a case in point:  my new home, in the hilly region surrounding the Town, is a mile or so beyond the reach of the prospective broadband system.  I’m like Moses leading the Jews to the Promised Land, but not allowed to cross over.  More importantly, there are many residents in a similar position.  How do other locales handle the problem of citizen and business outliers?

I’m not looking forward to leaving Cox Cable, even with all its shortcomings, behind, in exchange for CenturyLink DSL.  I was blessed by the former Pacific Telesis with a DSL account in 1983, while I worked for the CA Legislature. It’s not improved one whit since its stuttering introduction back then.

Here’s to a better 2020!

  Bob

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband Deployment on
     Tribal Lands (Owen Densmore)
  2. Re: FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband Deployment on
     Tribal Lands (Richard Lowenberg)


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From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
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Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
Deployment on Tribal Lands
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Owen,
Good to hear from you.
I'll be brief in my responses to fairly complex matters you ask about.

On 2019-12-18 09:58, Owen Densmore wrote:

Thanks for the report. Brought up two questions:

1 - Casinos: Don't they use broadband, thus are a point of access for
the rest of the tribal lands? I realize they are typically on the
boundaries, to be close to customers, but still could be useful.
I'm not privy to details but assume that many, of not most tribal
casinos
have high bandwidth fiber connections (for their networked gaming
machines)
and specific 'commercial' contracts with service providers.

These contracts are usually very restrictive to casino services, and are
therefore not a means of 'public' provision for their very underserved
communities.

Unfortunately, equitable tribal broadband development is economically
difficult, politically contentious and only one a small part of larger
eco-social relationship issues and world-views.



2 - Are tribal lands planning to use Elon Musk's StarLink?

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Possibly.  But, we are about to experience a number of satellite
broadband
provision services in the coming years, including Dish, which is a
partner
in the proposed Sprint/T-Mobile merger.  There are current plans and
approvals
for launch of at least 20,000-40,000 sats. (Environmental Impact Reports
not
required).   The emergence of new convergent service partnerships,
offerings,
failures and costs for a proposed society of "IDIoTS" (Intelligent
Devices
on the Internet of Things) is worrisome.

Comments by others are appreciated.

All seasonable best,
Richard



  -- Owen

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
wrote:


A recent report from the FCC's Native Nations Communications
Task Force.

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