From lpascual at asoundlook.com  Thu Jan  3 08:19:04 2019
From: lpascual at asoundlook.com (Leonard Pascual)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 16:19:04 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Census-NM-Broadband-Report
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Hello


I provide wireless solutions and would like to know when this event will occur.  Would you like a company like mine to attend?


Thanks

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From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Virgil Turner <vturner at ci.montrose.co.us>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 1:37:57 PM
To: Jeff
Cc: Richard Lowenberg; 1st-mile Nm
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Census-NM-Broadband-Report

I would second Jeff's suggestion regarding attendance at Mountain Connect. This conference has been incredibly important to those of us working to bring broadband to underserved rural communities. While it may be hosted in Colorado it is equally applicable to New Mexico as well.

Virgil Turner
Director of Innovation and Citizen Engagement
City of Montrose, Colorado
Mobile: 970-596-1093

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 9:55 AM Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org<mailto:jeff at mountainconnect.org>> wrote:
Over the past few years, I have made overtures to the state government and larger cities to spark their interest in attending the Mountain Connect Conference in Colorado if for no other reason than the ability to connect with other State and municipal leaders from both CO and other western states.  There has to be synergistic value in networking with those who have overcome same/similar obstacles.  I live in Durango so I am fairly familiar with the challenges in NM.

Incumbents, as Christopher can attest, don?t participate because the Agenda is reflective of those who need the help: Communties and Counties as a first priority.  In general, NM, outside of one northern group, has not attended nor shows any interest.  I am not suggesting, by the way, that attending this conference will solve all problems but a lack of continued interest demonstrates little or no desire to implement necessary change or at least to further their education.  Change is only possible through action.  It continues to be a disappointing endeavor...

Jeffrey Gavlinski
Mountain Connect
970 382-1799

On Dec 25, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com<mailto:doug.orr at gmail.com>> wrote:

Fortunately, 5g is going to solve everything.  (Kidding!)

On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 2:33 PM John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com<mailto:john at citylinkfiber.com>> wrote:
+1 to Christopher's comments.

In addition you have local (eg City) and State regulations, or lack of
regulation in some cases, that are barriers to entry.
Yes sometimes we actually need regulation to create a level playing
field, especially when it comes to using community
resources like rights of way.

For example:  The City of Albuquerque see's no reason to be involved
in helping with pole attachment rights.
Even when those poles are located within the rights of way of the
City.  Rights of way that are "owned by the citizens"
of Albuquerque.  City leadership will spew that they want to see more
broadband, but when it comes down to actively
helping with deployment, they stop short. IMHO, The City should go
back to pole owners and inform them that they are
required to share the poles with all Broadband providers, or face
serious issues with the City.  City has no guts!

Look at the millions wasted on the City's ART project.  More than a
year later the City still has not provided any access
to the dark fiber that was built as part of that project.  The City
held out to its citizens that this would be a Open Access / Neutral
dark fiber infra-structure along Route 66.  Yet today, providers still
can't connect.  Citizens are frustrated.

Another example: City of Albuquerque is going to pay hundreds of
thousands of dollars, to millions of dollars to Comcast
for the continued right to use dark fiber it has already paid for.
The City is willing to spend citizen money with Comcast on
a CLOSED fiber network instead of an Open Access fiber network project
that was proposed several years ago.  A project
that would have been completed and paid for by now.

At the State level.  Our State is not willing to create a single stop
shop for Rights of Way access, nor is our State willing
to create a state level / state wide set of Pole Attachment rules.
This allows for pole owners like CenturyLink, PNM and others to
create high cost barriers to the poles, preventing further fiber or
wireless adoption by local companies.

Another example:  City of Santa Fe.  City of Santa Fe awarded a RFP to
a Santa Fe company to build a fiber network.
this fiber network was suppose to be open access.  Yet a google search
today for "Santa Fe Fiber" the name of the
company didn't turn up any results on how a "qualified provider" could
access this "wholesale" only network.

Our leaders talk about wanting to get better broadband, but when the
tire hits the pavement and they have to do things
that go against the desires of the incumbents, they crater and it just
becomes talk.

I've found its far easier to build internet in other countries than it
is here in New Mexico.  New Mexico needs to seriously
wake up and be willing to go against the money of the incumbents.

Having built a multi-national ISP business, I find it is easier and
lower cost to provide service in say London, UK than
it is here in Albuquerque, NM!

On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 12:44 PM Christopher Mitchell
<christopher at ilsr.org<mailto:christopher at ilsr.org>> wrote:
>
> The Santa Fe Chamber of Commerce is the one that made the remark about slow adopters. This is a necessary frame for them.
>
> Chambers of commerce are notoriously beholden to the largest members - which are often firms like Comcast and CenturyLink in the case here. The Chamber has to say something that will not make its members look bad  so he blames poor access in the state on the people of the state rather than the big corporations that put food on this table. No shock there - this is how the game is played.
>
> Organizations - like chambers of commerce - that are corrupted by Comcast and CenturyLink money are extremely unlikely to support real solutions that reduce the monopoly power of the big chamber members ... even if that monopoly power is harming the vast majority of chamber members. Again... this is just how the game is played.
>
> Christopher Mitchell
> Director, Community Broadband Networks
> Institute for Local Self-Reliance
>
> MuniNetworks.org<http://MuniNetworks.org>
> @communitynets
> 612-545-5185
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 1:32 PM Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com<mailto:doug.orr at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Slow adopters??? That's not a likely reason why infrastructure improvements and distribution are lacking.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 10:04 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Census: N.M. struggling for a good connection
>>>
>>> By Teya Vitu | tvitu at sfnewmexican.com<mailto:tvitu at sfnewmexican.com>  Dec 24, 2018
>>>
>>> http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/census-n-m-struggling-for-a-good-connection/article_7ef18278-008e-5396-8250-8c8c52847c4f.html
>>>
>>> New U.S. Census Bureau data released earlier this month says New Mexico
>>> is among the least connected states to broadband in the nation.
>>>
>>> New Mexico ranks No. 48, just ahead of Arkansas and Mississippi and one
>>> notch below West Virginia, with percentage of households with broadband
>>> Internet subscriptions in 2016.
>>>
>>> The Census determined 73.7 percent of New Mexico household had broadband
>>> connections; the U.S. average was 81.4 percent. Washington state led the
>>> nation at 87.4 percent.
>>>
>>> ?Low broadband internet subscription rates were found in many counties
>>> in the upper Plains, the Southwest and South,? the Census wrote in its
>>> report.
>>>
>>> The highspeedinternet.com<http://highspeedinternet.com> website determined 91 percent of New Mexicans
>>> can get broadband internet. The broadbandnow.com<http://broadbandnow.com> website has 81 percent
>>> of New Mexico covered by broadband.
>>>
>>> The gap between broadband availability and customer subscriptions
>>> reflects other Census findings that singled out Deming and Gallup among
>>> the half-dozen or so U.S. micropolitan areas (fewer than 50,000
>>> residents) with the lowest income and highest poverty, respectively.
>>>
>>> New Mexico?s issues with poverty and low income are evident throughout
>>> the state. Only Los Alamos County has less than 10 percent poverty.
>>> Otherwise, the state falls alongside Arizona, South Carolina and
>>> Delaware as the only states with no counties with less than 10 percent
>>> poverty.
>>>
>>> On the broadband front, only Bernalillo, Sandoval, Santa Fe and Eddy
>>> counties have 75 to 85 percent of households with broadband
>>> subscriptions. Counties with broadband rates below 55 percent include
>>> Do?a Ana, Socorro, Cibola, McKinley, Rio Arriba, Guadalupe, San Miguel,
>>> Mora and Harding ? most with poverty rates between 26 and 37 percent.
>>>
>>> ?Generally, we are slow adapters,? said Simon Brackley, CEO of the Santa
>>> Fe Chamber of Commerce, whose economic development committee focuses on
>>> broadband connectivity. ?It takes us a little longer to catch up. There
>>> is increased commitment by the state to increase Internet speed. I think
>>> some people who live in rural areas are not interested in broadband.?
>>>
>>> However, the Albuquerque-based child advocacy organization New Mexico
>>> Voices for Children does not believe low incomes and poverty are the
>>> reason for New Mexico?s low broadband subscription rate.
>>>
>>> ?That?s an excuse, not a reason,? said James Jimenez, the group?s
>>> executive director. ?One thing we have seen around the state, even in
>>> low-income communities, a lot of people still have a phone (despite the
>>> cost). Companies find a way of providing service people can afford.?
>>>
>>> Jimenez said Voices is seeking greater state investment in bringing
>>> broadband to rural areas, equating broadband as infrastructure that is
>>> no different from highways ? items a community may not be able to do
>>> alone.
>>>
>>> ?I would say there is a great opportunity with the state surplus to use
>>> those resources to invest in broadband infrastructure for rural
>>> communities,? Jimenez said. ?We have a hollowing out of rural
>>> communities. One of the reasons for that is the lack of economic
>>> opportunities. One of the things the state can and should do is provide
>>> basic infrastructure.?
>>>
>>> CenturyLink, among the largest Internet providers in New Mexico, did not
>>> talk specifics in the Census Bureau report but said the company ?is on
>>> track to have enabled more than 15,000 locations in FCC-designated,
>>> high-cost census blocks in New Mexico by the end of this year,?
>>> referring to where the cost of service is higher than can be supported a
>>> user rates alone.
>>>
>>> Earlier this month, Gov.-elect Michelle Lujan Grisham, an outgoing
>>> member of the U.S. House of Representatives, lauded the inclusion in the
>>> Farm Bill of $500 million for a Community Connects Program, a broadband
>>> grant program to support construction of broadband infrastructure in
>>> communities private companies may not deem economically viable.
>>>
>>> Lujan Grisham in a statement the program will help rural areas of New
>>> Mexico.
>>>
>>> ?Expanding broadband access will grow New Mexico?s economy, create jobs,
>>> boost wages, improve health outcomes, support small business growth,
>>> help our students learn, increase crop yields, and so much more,? she
>>> said.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
>>> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
>>> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
>>> rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>     www.1st-mile.org<http://www.1st-mile.org>
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From mharris at visgence.com  Thu Jan  3 09:10:49 2019
From: mharris at visgence.com (Michael Harris)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 10:10:49 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Census-NM-Broadband-Report
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I noticed that the info for the 2019 Mountain Connect conference isn't on
the website yet. Any thoughts on when it might be, this year?

-- 
Michael Harris
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From christopher at ilsr.org  Thu Jan  3 13:58:47 2019
From: christopher at ilsr.org (Christopher Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 15:58:47 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Census-NM-Broadband-Report
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I have June 24-26 on my calendar for Mountain Connect. And as there are
many WISPs that attend, I hope that you would find it worth your time
Leonard. I have gone for many years (coming in from Minnesota) and I
believe it is one of the best broadband events in the country. And I end up
at most of them.

Christopher Mitchell
Director, Community Broadband Networks
Institute for Local Self-Reliance

MuniNetworks.org <http://www.muninetworks.org/>
@communitynets
612-545-5185


On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:11 AM Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com> wrote:

> I noticed that the info for the 2019 Mountain Connect conference isn't on
> the website yet. Any thoughts on when it might be, this year?
>
> --
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From lpascual at asoundlook.com  Thu Jan  3 14:27:24 2019
From: lpascual at asoundlook.com (Leonard Pascual)
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 22:27:24 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Census-NM-Broadband-Report
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Christopher,


Thank you for the information and looking foward to attending.


Thanks

________________________________
From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces+lpascual=asoundlook.com at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Christopher Mitchell <christopher at ilsr.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 2:58:47 PM
To: Michael Harris
Cc: 1st-mile Nm
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Census-NM-Broadband-Report

I have June 24-26 on my calendar for Mountain Connect. And as there are many WISPs that attend, I hope that you would find it worth your time Leonard. I have gone for many years (coming in from Minnesota) and I believe it is one of the best broadband events in the country. And I end up at most of them.

Christopher Mitchell
Director, Community Broadband Networks
Institute for Local Self-Reliance

MuniNetworks.org<http://www.muninetworks.org/>
@communitynets
612-545-5185


On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:11 AM Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com<mailto:mharris at visgence.com>> wrote:
I noticed that the info for the 2019 Mountain Connect conference isn't on the website yet. Any thoughts on when it might be, this year?

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From jeff at mountainconnect.org  Fri Jan  4 21:35:13 2019
From: jeff at mountainconnect.org (Jeff)
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 05:35:13 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Census-NM-Broadband-Report
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Leonard/Michael,

Sorry for the delay in responding but I was traveling.  At mountainconnect.org, the dates for the conference are listed as well as other details regarding this year?s event which will be held June 24-26 at the Keystone Resort & Conference Center in Dillon, CO.  If you have any questions, please don?t hesitate to contact me.

Christopher, thank you as always.

Jeff

From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Leonard Pascual <lpascual at asoundlook.com>
Date: Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 3:43 PM
To: Christopher Mitchell <christopher at ilsr.org>, Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com>
Cc: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Census-NM-Broadband-Report


Christopher,



Thank you for the information and looking foward to attending.



Thanks

________________________________
From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces+lpascual=asoundlook.com at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Christopher Mitchell <christopher at ilsr.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 2:58:47 PM
To: Michael Harris
Cc: 1st-mile Nm
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Census-NM-Broadband-Report

I have June 24-26 on my calendar for Mountain Connect. And as there are many WISPs that attend, I hope that you would find it worth your time Leonard. I have gone for many years (coming in from Minnesota) and I believe it is one of the best broadband events in the country. And I end up at most of them.

Christopher Mitchell
Director, Community Broadband Networks
Institute for Local Self-Reliance

MuniNetworks.org<http://www.muninetworks.org/>
@communitynets
612-545-5185


On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:11 AM Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com<mailto:mharris at visgence.com>> wrote:
I noticed that the info for the 2019 Mountain Connect conference isn't on the website yet. Any thoughts on when it might be, this year?

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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Jan  7 14:58:38 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 15:58:38 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Network Archeology
Message-ID: <3b97f2cb7eebe9325aafaa887e96c9fc@1st-mile.org>

 From the Santa Fe Bulletin Board's Facebook site:

WE MAY BE RURAL, BUT WE AIN'T HUMORLESS

After digging to a depth of 10 feet last year outside Buffalo, New York, 
scientists found traces of copper cable dating back 100 years. They came 
to the conclusion that their ancestors already had a telephone network 
more than 100 years ago.

Not to be outdone by the New Yorkers, in the weeks that followed, a Los 
Angeles, California archaeologist dug to a depth of 20 feet somewhere 
just outside Oceanside. Shortly afterward, a story in the LA Times read, 
"California archaeologists, reporting a finding of 200 year old copper 
cable, have concluded that their ancestors already had an advanced 
high-tech communications network a hundred years earlier than the New 
Yorkers."

One week later, the local newspaper in Santa Fe, New Mexico reported, 
"After digging 30 feet deep in his pasture near the community of Santa 
Fe, Franky Lopez, a heck of an engineer and a self-taught archaeologist, 
reported that he found absolutely nothing. Franky has therefore 
concluded that 300 years ago, New Mexico had already gone wireless."
Just makes a person proud to be from New Mexico.



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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Jan  9 08:51:34 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2019 09:51:34 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] ISOC 2018 Indigenous Connectivity Summit Report
Message-ID: <5e62ac6be30ace1169feb7a347bced3a@1st-mile.org>

The Internet Society's 2018 Indigenous Connectivity Summit, held in 
Canada and largely focused on First Nation communities and initiatives, 
has issued its report, much of it relevant to indigenous connectivity in 
the U.S. and elsewhere.

https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-Indigenous-Connectivity-Summit-Community-Report_EN.pdf

RL




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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Jan 11 08:20:16 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 09:20:16 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] CTCNet: Small Cell Siting Costs
Message-ID: <6517437233346027bebd4ae707c03f81@1st-mile.org>


Documenting the True?and High?Local Administrative Costs of Small Cell 
Siting

http://www.ctcnet.us/blog/documenting-the-true-and-high-local-administrative-costs-of-small-cell-siting

Shawn Thompson, Principal Engineer

A hundred bucks. That?s what the FCC recently decided is adequate 
compensation to your locality for processing a small cell application. 
In many cases, it?s not going to be enough.

And if your actual costs are indeed higher than $100, you will 
effectively be forced by the new FCC rules to subsidize the 
telecommunications industry?unless you can build a strong and reasonable 
case for why your actual, documented costs are higher and should be 
recovered by your community.

With the January 14 effective date looming for the new FCC order 
preempting local authority over small cell siting, we recently outlined 
Ten Strategies that your locality, state agency, or utility can adopt in 
this newly restrictive environment. We later described how careful 
processes are your best defense.

We turn now to the question of costs. The FCC set low default wireless 
facilities siting application fees that localities can charge: $500 for 
up to five sites; $100 per site thereafter; and recurring fees in the 
rights-of-way limited to $270 per site per year. But the FCC also allows 
you to charge a ?reasonable approximation? of your ?objectively 
reasonable costs.?

Let?s remember that these technologies will be dotting the landscape for 
decades, so doing this right is worthwhile. We at CTC have been 
assisting public agencies and utilities on wireless facilities siting 
for a long time?long enough to know that the FCC?s numbers are low 
relative to most actual costs.

So lately we?ve been documenting exactly what ?reasonable? looks like. 
This means sitting down with clients to detail what a proper application 
and review process consists of, and how long each task consumes in staff 
time and other expenses. (And no, we aren?t including consulting in the 
calculation.) We?ve built highly detailed spreadsheets documenting all 
this. Bottom line: We have found that in some cases a new siting might 
cost north of $1,500 for a proper review.

(snip)



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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Jan 11 20:58:25 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 21:58:25 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Colorado Map: Local Authority Expanding Across the
	State
Message-ID: <8870f466134472c2b658f9ba815676eb@1st-mile.org>

Colorado Map: Local Authority Expanding Across the State

Wed, January 9, 2019 | Posted by Lisa Gonzalez

A total of 40 counties and 102 municipalities have now chosen local 
telecommunications authority by passing ballot measures to opt out of 
restrictive state law. Last November, 18 counties, cities, and towns 
voted to join the expanding list of communities opting out of SB 152, 
which revoked local telecommunications authority in 2005. We decided to 
update our map to get a new visualization of what the situation now 
looks like in Colorado.

Take a gander:

https://muninetworks.org/content/colorado-map-local-authority-expanding-across-state



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Sat Jan 12 08:36:23 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 09:36:23 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] more 5g fun
Message-ID: <CAE7P4RtvnL5KVS3nANxLHrCbz_79BMa_cwtYSvXhvmBJ8WrFEw@mail.gmail.com>

So awesome, Verizon will pay you to do something valuable with it
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/baig/2019/01/11/have-big-5-g-idea-could-get-you-1-million-verizon/2537774002/>.
Oops.

And...investors not impressed
<https://www.businessinsider.com/investors-have-low-expectations-for-verizon-5g-home-2019-1?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_content=biPrimeSelect&utm_campaign=BI%20Prime%202019-01-12&utm_term=BI%20Prime%20Select>.
Even with the proposition of being a cable killer, BI says.

  Doug
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Jan 14 10:01:00 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:01:00 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] CICD Blog: The digital divide in Indian Country
Message-ID: <f9ead2dc2f208c8580f6c0bb081fc97c@1st-mile.org>

CICD (Center for Indian Country Development) Blog

The digital divide in Indian Country
Reservations? broadband access rates vary widely, but lag national 
averages

https://www.minneapolisfed.org/indiancountry/research-and-articles/cicd-blog/the-digital-divide-in-indian-country




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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Jan 15 13:14:39 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:14:39 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: Notice of two RFPs posted by Alamogordo Public
	Schools
In-Reply-To: <AkrST000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000PLE43300blw8jWXhSaySe9-nfICs6A@sfdc.net>
References: <AkrST000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000PLE43300blw8jWXhSaySe9-nfICs6A@sfdc.net>
Message-ID: <9fa68e991b69619a788bb6fa950d7645@1st-mile.org>


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Notice of two RFPs posted by Alamogordo Public Schools
Date: 2019-01-15 13:40
 From: Ruth Bingham <rbingham at nmpsfa.org>


--- TIME SENSITIVE INFORMATION ---

[The Broadband Program at PSFA (Public School Facilities Authority,
State of New Mexico) was asked by the Alamogordo Public Schools to send
this vendor-neutral email, going out to our list of all known E-rate
Category 1 vendor contacts.]

Please review & consider the RFP at the following link:
http://alamogordo.ss12.sharpschool.com/cms/One.aspx?portalId=372462&pageId=376599

There are two RFPs; one is for a Category 1 lit fiber service, and one
is for maintenance of the existing District owned fiber.

Thank you for your time & consideration.

Ruth Bingham
BDCP Administrative Assistant
Public School Facilities Authority
1312 Basehart Rd. SE, Suite 200
Albuquerque, NM 87106
Office: 505-843-6272 ext. 1074
Direct: 505-468-0268
Email: rbingham at nmpsfa.org
Web: www.nmpsfa.org


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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Jan 18 10:11:35 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:11:35 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Becoming Broadband Ready: A Toolkit for Communities
Message-ID: <b35f093e633fbeee7946a25ccd599a40@1st-mile.org>

Next Century Cities has just published and shared "Becoming Broadband 
Ready: A Toolkit for Communities", a guide for communities that are 
seeking solutions to connect residents to broadband.

The toolkit acts as a comprehensive first-stop resource for community 
leaders by outlining the most important considerations and action steps 
for communities beginning broadband expansion projects. These ?building 
blocks? for a successful project are broken down into clear, concise 
sections that are presented in chronological order, with the most 
fundamental ingredients first and more nuanced considerations later.

https://nextcenturycities.org/wp-content/uploads/Becoming-Broadband-Ready-Toolkit-web.pdf


This is a fine resource guide, with much of the content and
issues to be considered and acted upon, having been published
and advocated for by activists, planners and civic .orgs
previously.   Nationwide, however, we lack a concerted will,
economic imperative and cooperative way forward, as government
and corporate big players undermine local communities and
peoples' healthy lives in today's world.

RL


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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Feb  4 19:46:55 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 20:46:55 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] TRIBAL BROADBAND SUBSIDIES
Message-ID: <cac639ba3e5d568f5f5e01dbbdc10260@1st-mile.org>

Ajit Pai loses in court?judges overturn gutting of tribal broadband 
program

Court: FCC failed to provide evidence and ignored harm to broadband 
access.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/02/ajit-pai-loses-in-court-judges-overturn-gutting-of-tribal-broadband-program/

JON BRODKIN - 2/4/2019

A federal appeals court has overturned Ajit Pai's attempt to take 
broadband subsidies away from tribal residents.

The Pai-led Federal Communications Commission voted 3-2 in November 2017 
to make it much harder for tribal residents to obtain a $25-per-month 
Lifeline subsidy that reduces the cost of Internet or phone service.

The change didn't take effect because in August 2018, the US Court of 
Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit stayed the FCC decision 
pending appeal. The same court followed that up on Friday last week with 
a ruling that reversed the FCC decision and remanded the matter back to 
the commission for a new rule-making proceeding.

"[S]ince 2000, low-income consumers living on Tribal lands may receive 
an additional $25 per month for these services through the Tribal 
Lifeline program in recognition of the additional hurdles to affordable 
telecommunications service on Tribal lands," the court's decision noted.

The Pai FCC's 2017 decision would have limited the $25 subsidy to 
"facilities-based" carriers?those that build their own networks?making 
it impossible for tribal residents to use the $25 subsidy to buy telecom 
service from resellers. The move would have dramatically limited tribal 
residents' options for purchasing subsidized service, but the FCC 
claimed it was necessary in order to encourage carriers to build their 
own networks.

The same FCC decision also would have eliminated the $25 subsidy in 
urban areas, reserving it only for tribal lands in rural areas. The 
court's decision Friday, in response to an appeal filed by tribal 
organizations and small wireless carriers, overturned both of these 
limitations.

A three-judge panel said the FCC failed to consider that 
facilities-based providers have been leaving the Lifeline program and 
provided no evidence that banning resellers would spur new broadband 
deployment. The FCC also failed to properly consider how eliminating the 
subsidy in urban areas would affect consumers, judges determined.

(snip)


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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Feb  5 09:45:25 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:45:25 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Mountain Connect
Message-ID: <9fd5ee8831aedc1b9449b46cac6d6894@1st-mile.org>

This year's Mountain Connect program, June 24-26 is
interested in greater NM registrants and presenters.
An excellent program shaping up.
https://mountainconnect.org

RL



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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Feb 11 17:39:37 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:39:37 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] SpaceX seeks FCC OK for 1 million satellite broadband
	Earth stations
Message-ID: <ce66c8a75c10bc3014779b903532bee9@1st-mile.org>

SPACEX'S SATELLITE BROADBAND ?

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/spacex-seeks-fcc-ok-for-1-million-satellite-broadband-earth-stations/

SpaceX seeks FCC OK for 1 million satellite broadband Earth stations
SpaceX Starlink team wants quick FCC approval to support "ambitious 
timetable."

JON BRODKIN - 2/11/2019,

SpaceX is seeking US approval to deploy up to 1 million Earth stations 
to receive transmissions from its planned satellite broadband 
constellation.

The Federal Communications Commission last year gave SpaceX permission 
to deploy 11,943 low-Earth orbit satellites for the planned Starlink 
system. A new application from SpaceX Services, a sister company, asks 
the FCC for "a blanket license authorizing operation of up to 1,000,000 
Earth stations that end-user customers will utilize to communicate with 
SpaceX's NGSO [non-geostationary orbit] constellation."

The application was published by FCC.report, a third-party site that 
tracks FCC filings. GeekWire reported the news on Friday. An FCC 
spokesperson confirmed to Ars today that SpaceX filed the application on 
February 1, 2019.

If each end-user Earth station provides Internet service to one 
building, SpaceX could eventually need authorization for more than 1 
million stations in the US. SpaceX job listings describe the user 
terminal as "a high-volume manufactured product customers will have in 
their homes."

"These user terminals employ advanced phased-array beam-forming and 
digital processing technologies to make highly efficient use of Ku-band 
spectrum resources by supporting highly directive, steered antenna beams 
that track the system's low-Earth orbit satellites," SpaceX's new 
application says. "Consistent with SpaceX's space station authorization, 
these Earth stations will transmit in the 14.0-14.5 GHz band and receive 
in the 10.7-12.7 GHz band... SpaceX Services seeks authority to deploy 
and operate these Earth stations throughout the contiguous United 
States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands."

Each user terminal "will communicate only with those SpaceX satellites 
that are visible on the horizon above a minimum elevation angle," the 
application says.

"The proposed user terminal is a flat phased array capable of steering 
its beams to track SpaceX's NGSO satellites passing within its field of 
view," the application also says. "As the terminal steers the 
transmitting beam, it also adjusts the power to maintain a constant 
level at the receiving antenna of its target satellite, compensating for 
variations in antenna gain and path loss associated with the steering 
angle."

We contacted SpaceX about the application and will update this story if 
we get a response.

?Ambitious timetable?

SpaceX asked the FCC for quick approval to support the company's 
"ambitious timetable for launching satellites and deploying broadband 
services."

"Granting this application would serve the public interest by helping to 
speed broadband deployment throughout the United States by authorizing 
the ground-based component of SpaceX's satellite system," SpaceX wrote.

In addition to user terminals, SpaceX plans a smaller number of gateway 
Earth stations to "provide the necessary communications links back from 
the SpaceX satellites to the global Internet," according to a previous 
SpaceX filing. SpaceX has estimated that it will deploy "several 
hundred" of these gateway stations across the US to be "co-located with 
or sited near major Internet peering points to provide the required 
Internet connectivity to the satellite constellation." SpaceX also plans 
two tracking telemetry and control (TT&C) stations in the US, one on the 
East Coast and another on the West Coast.

While the latest application focuses on the US, SpaceX plans to provide 
broadband service globally. SpaceX hasn't provided a specific 
availability date, but a Reuters report in October 2018 said SpaceX's 
"goal of having Internet service available in 2020 is 'pretty much on 
target' with an initial satellite launch by mid-2019."

FCC rules require the launch of 50 percent of satellites within six 
years of authorization and all of them within nine years unless a waiver 
is granted.

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk fired some senior managers from the Starlink 
project in mid-2018, reportedly to maintain his aggressive deployment 
schedule. In December, SpaceX reportedly raised $500 million to help pay 
for the project. SpaceX has said its broadband satellites will provide 
gigabit speeds and latencies as low as 25ms, similar to cable or fiber 
systems.


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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu Feb 14 10:05:57 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 11:05:57 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] American Broadband Initiative Milestones Report
Message-ID: <995de728dedc2b14286ff4470f71afd4@1st-mile.org>

The NTIA yesterday posted the federal government's

American Broadband Initiative Milestones Report

February 13, 2019

https://www.ntia.doc.gov/report/2019/american-broadband-initiative-milestones-report

This report outlines a vision for how the Federal Government can 
increase broadband access and actions that Agencies are taking to 
increase private-sector investment in broadband. Previous attempts to 
expand broadband connectivity have made progress and provided valuable 
lessons that guide this Initiative. The report?s recommendations are 
grouped into three categories: streamlining Federal permitting processes 
to speed broadband deployment, leveraging Federal assets to lower the 
cost of broadband buildouts, and maximizing the impact of Federal 
funding.

RL


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Thu Feb 14 16:15:56 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:15:56 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] American Broadband Initiative Milestones Report
In-Reply-To: <995de728dedc2b14286ff4470f71afd4@1st-mile.org>
References: <995de728dedc2b14286ff4470f71afd4@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <CAE7P4RtMPSA9O01vMvQTyR39LiO+XebSo_rd3H52LQY6D0ozvw@mail.gmail.com>

I read this so you don't have to.

Near as I can tell this "program" consists of getting rid of a bunch of
environmental and good taste-related barriers to towers and stringing lines
in pristine wilderness, enabling access to government buildings, towers and
historically preserved things for antennas, streamlining federal
regulations, streamlining regulations at the state and local level (more
overreach, pros and cons) and inter-agency (probably good), and doing some
obvious things like gathering data and setting goals (this is new?)

It's the typical laissez-faire strip off the regulations program, plus some
hard-to-pin-down amount of federal money to be spent in ways that weren't
totally obvious just from reading this doc.

I'm really interested to know how allowing access to federal buildings and
towers for antennas and gear works when the antennas need maintenance.

5g rollouts seem to be picking up steam, including with some using contract
vendors who seem to have some issues
<https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CAASUL_enUS782US782&ei=HQRmXNi7BZSgjwTVooHABQ&q=%22mobilitie%22+problems+or+lawsuit&oq=%22mobilitie%22+problems+or+lawsuit&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i302i39.18859.22797..23287...0.0..0.162.264.0j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.kNqI3EWnGSI>.
For balance some inspiring words
<https://medium.com/@BrendanCarrFCC/5g-jobs-in-the-year-of-5g-3c4ce0b14ace>
from Brendan Carr to the NATE.

  Doug


More detail:
. getting around the NEPA (which was put in place to protect the
environment after gross mismanagement of the federal resources. Money quote
from the law case: "noting "a remarkable consensus of opinion" that the
federal agencies contributed substantially to the country's degraded
environmental state"). So no more of that annoying regulation.
. permitting streamline, fee consistency, etc. Sure.
. "streamline" review for national and state/local historic stuff
(structures, buildings, objects, etc.) I assume "streamline" is a lot like
the verb "steamroller."
. one billing team: Sure
. more "streamlining" of pesky environmental reviews
. get rid of pesky restrictions on wilderness areas, national monuments,
areas of critical environmental concern (ACECs), and other surface-limiting
stipulations or buffer zones, because what we want is more broadband towers
running through wilderness. (Full list, just of ACES here
<https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/planningandnepa_aceclist.xlsx>)
. lease DOE dark fiber: sure; inventory assets: sure
. better data: sure
. better integration with state/local: sure
. some e- program (ReConnect <https://www.usda.gov/reconnect>) to use fed
money "catalyze" private investment
. better goals and accountability: sure
. veterans, tribal vague promises including summits
. new broadbandusa <https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/>site
. coal country grants (jesus, really? really??)
. some other junk


On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:06 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:

> The NTIA yesterday posted the federal government's
>
> American Broadband Initiative Milestones Report
>
> February 13, 2019
>
>
> https://www.ntia.doc.gov/report/2019/american-broadband-initiative-milestones-report
>
> This report outlines a vision for how the Federal Government can
> increase broadband access and actions that Agencies are taking to
> increase private-sector investment in broadband. Previous attempts to
> expand broadband connectivity have made progress and provided valuable
> lessons that guide this Initiative. The report?s recommendations are
> grouped into three categories: streamlining Federal permitting processes
> to speed broadband deployment, leveraging Federal assets to lower the
> cost of broadband buildouts, and maximizing the impact of Federal
> funding.
>
> RL
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200 <(505)%20603-5200>
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From christopher at ilsr.org  Thu Feb 14 16:45:29 2019
From: christopher at ilsr.org (Christopher Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 18:45:29 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] American Broadband Initiative Milestones Report
In-Reply-To: <CAE7P4RtMPSA9O01vMvQTyR39LiO+XebSo_rd3H52LQY6D0ozvw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <995de728dedc2b14286ff4470f71afd4@1st-mile.org>
	<CAE7P4RtMPSA9O01vMvQTyR39LiO+XebSo_rd3H52LQY6D0ozvw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAe53yuYiu+g6iYXhRLf96Ais8Wd6MJrXUEzuMctuTpAFmxJEw@mail.gmail.com>

Let me guess how much money they want to put into hiring the people that
are still needed to process permits even after the streamlining...

no wait, don't tell me...

I think I can guess...

.... oh this could be embarrassing if I am wrong...

how about ... zero dollars?

Not that it will stop them from blasting those agencies on the floor of
Congress and in the media for being slow to process permits...

Christopher Mitchell
Director, Community Broadband Networks
Institute for Local Self-Reliance

MuniNetworks.org <http://www.muninetworks.org/>
@communitynets
612-545-5185


On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 6:16 PM Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:

> I read this so you don't have to.
>
> Near as I can tell this "program" consists of getting rid of a bunch of
> environmental and good taste-related barriers to towers and stringing lines
> in pristine wilderness, enabling access to government buildings, towers and
> historically preserved things for antennas, streamlining federal
> regulations, streamlining regulations at the state and local level (more
> overreach, pros and cons) and inter-agency (probably good), and doing some
> obvious things like gathering data and setting goals (this is new?)
>
> It's the typical laissez-faire strip off the regulations program, plus
> some hard-to-pin-down amount of federal money to be spent in ways that
> weren't totally obvious just from reading this doc.
>
> I'm really interested to know how allowing access to federal buildings and
> towers for antennas and gear works when the antennas need maintenance.
>
> 5g rollouts seem to be picking up steam, including with some using
> contract vendors who seem to have some issues
> <https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CAASUL_enUS782US782&ei=HQRmXNi7BZSgjwTVooHABQ&q=%22mobilitie%22+problems+or+lawsuit&oq=%22mobilitie%22+problems+or+lawsuit&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i302i39.18859.22797..23287...0.0..0.162.264.0j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71.kNqI3EWnGSI>.
> For balance some inspiring words
> <https://medium.com/@BrendanCarrFCC/5g-jobs-in-the-year-of-5g-3c4ce0b14ace>
> from Brendan Carr to the NATE.
>
>   Doug
>
>
> More detail:
> . getting around the NEPA (which was put in place to protect the
> environment after gross mismanagement of the federal resources. Money quote
> from the law case: "noting "a remarkable consensus of opinion" that the
> federal agencies contributed substantially to the country's degraded
> environmental state"). So no more of that annoying regulation.
> . permitting streamline, fee consistency, etc. Sure.
> . "streamline" review for national and state/local historic stuff
> (structures, buildings, objects, etc.) I assume "streamline" is a lot like
> the verb "steamroller."
> . one billing team: Sure
> . more "streamlining" of pesky environmental reviews
> . get rid of pesky restrictions on wilderness areas, national monuments,
> areas of critical environmental concern (ACECs), and other surface-limiting
> stipulations or buffer zones, because what we want is more broadband towers
> running through wilderness. (Full list, just of ACES here
> <https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/planningandnepa_aceclist.xlsx>)
> . lease DOE dark fiber: sure; inventory assets: sure
> . better data: sure
> . better integration with state/local: sure
> . some e- program (ReConnect <https://www.usda.gov/reconnect>) to use fed
> money "catalyze" private investment
> . better goals and accountability: sure
> . veterans, tribal vague promises including summits
> . new broadbandusa <https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/>site
> . coal country grants (jesus, really? really??)
> . some other junk
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:06 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> wrote:
>
>> The NTIA yesterday posted the federal government's
>>
>> American Broadband Initiative Milestones Report
>>
>> February 13, 2019
>>
>>
>> https://www.ntia.doc.gov/report/2019/american-broadband-initiative-milestones-report
>>
>> This report outlines a vision for how the Federal Government can
>> increase broadband access and actions that Agencies are taking to
>> increase private-sector investment in broadband. Previous attempts to
>> expand broadband connectivity have made progress and provided valuable
>> lessons that guide this Initiative. The report?s recommendations are
>> grouped into three categories: streamlining Federal permitting processes
>> to speed broadband deployment, leveraging Federal assets to lower the
>> cost of broadband buildouts, and maximizing the impact of Federal
>> funding.
>>
>> RL
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
>> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200 <(505)%20603-5200>
>> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
>> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Sat Feb 16 15:30:09 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 16:30:09 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] more 5g fun: neighborhood small cells
Message-ID: <CAE7P4Rs7REZiun15=CR0kJrc1SZKDWLeQQczjRLVYfJkPoSdoA@mail.gmail.com>

This one is kinda new to me but makes perfect sense. Rather than say, "5g
building penetration sucks leaving it of marginal utility indoors" we have
a marketing program for neighborhood small cells (!) which are open access
(!!) and sound positively homey.

I hate marketing.

Looks to me like you need to augment or replace your wifi with an open
access NSC (neighborhood small cell!) in order to watch high def cat videos
on your phone indoors.

These reports make it clear that this is nothing but upside.

https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2018/10/22/samsung-and-qualcomm-work-deliver-industry-leading-5g-nr-small-cell
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/10/15/ubiquitous-5g-experiences-small-cells

Marketing bonuses all around.

And a word from Qualcomm's Dean Brenner
<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/04/12/fcc-takes-action-accelerate-small-cell-deployments-and-strengthen-5g-readiness>
who lets us know that we'll need small cells "indoors and out" and applauds
the FCC's steamroller,

  Doug
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Sat Feb 16 17:01:27 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:01:27 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] 5g rollout problems (!)
Message-ID: <CAE7P4RtTmFz049Hfu9eKGkt0xceo7aOXu5K2YfjQtUOAVzh-HA@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/5g-waves/4461589/Surprise--More-5G-complications

Interesting bits:

   - Rain fade and foliage interference aren't proving as bad as
   anticipated (what?? I mean that's good, but is the idea that they were
   scared of rain and trees?)
   - Everything's really complex and hard to test. (shocked!)
   - Carriers are worried the technology won't deliver on day one. (more
   shock!)
   - Jamming all the diverse rf crap into handsets isn't working because
   systems combining many antennas work differently than the test systems with
   individual antennas do by themselves (my words, and duh)
   - They are now understanding they'll need way more base stations than
   anticipated.in urban areas (because of the lack of careful design?)
   - mimo antennas turning out to be too heavy for roofs to support. (WHAT?)
   - Costs are rising

*Conclusion: *maybe mesh? how about routing everything through the cloud??*
In other words, "core capabilities aren't working and we need a hail
mary." *

A rule of big projects is to not change big things at the last minute. If I
were the project manager in charge of this I'd kill myself.

  Doug

p.s. I'm sure this is being rolled out so quickly because it's awesome and
a critical national security need, and not so that it can be too entrenched
to kill if the FCC chairmanship changes in 2020.
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Sun Feb 17 17:30:34 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:30:34 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Mapping as a Strategic Tool (for KCEC)
Message-ID: <82713f41acd5524f0ced1b784b644ef2@1st-mile.org>

The Jan/Feb. issue of BroadbandCommunities magazine has many
useful articles, as always, including this:

Mapping as a Strategic Tool

Kit Carson Electric Cooperative used VETRO FiberMap to reduce 
troubleshooting time and meet demand for new fiber broadband
service.

By Will Mitchell / VETRO FiberMap

http://www.bbcmag.com/2019mags/Jan_Feb/BBC_Jan19_Mapping.pdf

RL


---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From ggomes at soundviewnet.com  Mon Feb 18 08:12:38 2019
From: ggomes at soundviewnet.com (ggomes at soundviewnet.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 10:12:38 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Remove from Mailing list
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Please remove me from the mailing list



From josmon at rigozsaurus.com  Mon Feb 18 10:22:38 2019
From: josmon at rigozsaurus.com (John Osmon)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 11:22:38 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Remove from Mailing list
In-Reply-To: <20190218101238.Horde.iPH2fEVxsU3yqZs8HQD3EXw@webmail.soundviewnet.com>
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At the bottom of each message, there is a URL that will take you
to a web page that will allow you to unsubscribe.


On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:12:38AM -0600, ggomes at soundviewnet.com wrote:
> 
> Please remove me from the mailing list
> 
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From mharris at visgence.com  Thu Feb 21 15:55:43 2019
From: mharris at visgence.com (Michael Harris)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:55:43 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] more 5g fun: neighborhood small cells
In-Reply-To: <CAE7P4Rs7REZiun15=CR0kJrc1SZKDWLeQQczjRLVYfJkPoSdoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE7P4Rs7REZiun15=CR0kJrc1SZKDWLeQQczjRLVYfJkPoSdoA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABhxMwax3GLhojQ8Dy3yWeJHb8GWiijbeKr0WO8uqfRamJfi2g@mail.gmail.com>

I just listened to this podcast where they go into some of the deeper
technical detail of high frequency 5G and point out that there are 5G
schemes that run on lower frequencies where you don't need a cell every 100m

https://theamphour.com/430-shahriar-discusses-5g/

Something else that they point out is that the mm wave tech is not going to
wind up in phones, but is more for vehicles or PTMP fixed wireless.


On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:30 PM Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:

> This one is kinda new to me but makes perfect sense. Rather than say, "5g
> building penetration sucks leaving it of marginal utility indoors" we have
> a marketing program for neighborhood small cells (!) which are open access
> (!!) and sound positively homey.
>
> I hate marketing.
>
> Looks to me like you need to augment or replace your wifi with an open
> access NSC (neighborhood small cell!) in order to watch high def cat videos
> on your phone indoors.
>
> These reports make it clear that this is nothing but upside.
>
>
> https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2018/10/22/samsung-and-qualcomm-work-deliver-industry-leading-5g-nr-small-cell
>
> https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/10/15/ubiquitous-5g-experiences-small-cells
>
> Marketing bonuses all around.
>
> And a word from Qualcomm's Dean Brenner
> <https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/04/12/fcc-takes-action-accelerate-small-cell-deployments-and-strengthen-5g-readiness>
> who lets us know that we'll need small cells "indoors and out" and applauds
> the FCC's steamroller,
>
>   Doug
> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>


-- 
Michael Harris
--
President, Visgence Inc.
www.visgence.com
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From christopher at ilsr.org  Thu Feb 21 17:47:03 2019
From: christopher at ilsr.org (Christopher Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:47:03 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] more 5g fun: neighborhood small cells
In-Reply-To: <CABhxMwax3GLhojQ8Dy3yWeJHb8GWiijbeKr0WO8uqfRamJfi2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE7P4Rs7REZiun15=CR0kJrc1SZKDWLeQQczjRLVYfJkPoSdoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABhxMwax3GLhojQ8Dy3yWeJHb8GWiijbeKr0WO8uqfRamJfi2g@mail.gmail.com>
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Regarding the lower frequencies, did they discuss the amount of bandwidth
available?  I believe T-Mo is going to use those lower frequencies but
common expectation is significantly lower capacity I thought.

Christopher Mitchell
Director, Community Broadband Networks
Institute for Local Self-Reliance

MuniNetworks.org <http://www.muninetworks.org/>
@communitynets
612-545-5185


On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 5:56 PM Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com> wrote:

> I just listened to this podcast where they go into some of the deeper
> technical detail of high frequency 5G and point out that there are 5G
> schemes that run on lower frequencies where you don't need a cell every 100m
>
> https://theamphour.com/430-shahriar-discusses-5g/
>
> Something else that they point out is that the mm wave tech is not going
> to wind up in phones, but is more for vehicles or PTMP fixed wireless.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:30 PM Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This one is kinda new to me but makes perfect sense. Rather than say, "5g
>> building penetration sucks leaving it of marginal utility indoors" we have
>> a marketing program for neighborhood small cells (!) which are open access
>> (!!) and sound positively homey.
>>
>> I hate marketing.
>>
>> Looks to me like you need to augment or replace your wifi with an open
>> access NSC (neighborhood small cell!) in order to watch high def cat videos
>> on your phone indoors.
>>
>> These reports make it clear that this is nothing but upside.
>>
>>
>> https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2018/10/22/samsung-and-qualcomm-work-deliver-industry-leading-5g-nr-small-cell
>>
>> https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/10/15/ubiquitous-5g-experiences-small-cells
>>
>> Marketing bonuses all around.
>>
>> And a word from Qualcomm's Dean Brenner
>> <https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/04/12/fcc-takes-action-accelerate-small-cell-deployments-and-strengthen-5g-readiness>
>> who lets us know that we'll need small cells "indoors and out" and applauds
>> the FCC's steamroller,
>>
>>   Doug
>> _______________________________________________
>> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>>
>
>
> --
> Michael Harris
> --
> President, Visgence Inc.
> www.visgence.com
> _______________________________________________
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Thu Feb 21 20:12:49 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:12:49 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] more 5g fun: neighborhood small cells
In-Reply-To: <CAAe53yvqttLc+ndyhH8suAwxpVmoOjmMpt+_kd-Hk4Thd0Og6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE7P4Rs7REZiun15=CR0kJrc1SZKDWLeQQczjRLVYfJkPoSdoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABhxMwax3GLhojQ8Dy3yWeJHb8GWiijbeKr0WO8uqfRamJfi2g@mail.gmail.com>
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Lower frequency: lower information density (and better penetration and
distance).4g connections can be fairly fast, there is just not enough
bandwidth for a lot of them as would be required with a large cell. Which
is why they are pushing out to more antennas with more, smaller, higher
speed cells backed with a local fiber infrastructure. A lot of what's
happening is were getting a fiber infrastructure plus wireless plus mobile.

https://www.cio.com/article/3226451/networking/5g-a-few-frequency-facts.html

The penetration issue is present for 4g as well, which is why hotels or
office buildings will have local cells inside to ensure good coverage
inside. It's just worse if you are trying to keep individual connections
high speed.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 6:47 PM Christopher Mitchell <christopher at ilsr.org>
wrote:

> Regarding the lower frequencies, did they discuss the amount of bandwidth
> available?  I believe T-Mo is going to use those lower frequencies but
> common expectation is significantly lower capacity I thought.
>
> Christopher Mitchell
> Director, Community Broadband Networks
> Institute for Local Self-Reliance
>
> MuniNetworks.org <http://www.muninetworks.org/>
> @communitynets
> 612-545-5185
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 5:56 PM Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I just listened to this podcast where they go into some of the deeper
>> technical detail of high frequency 5G and point out that there are 5G
>> schemes that run on lower frequencies where you don't need a cell every 100m
>>
>> https://theamphour.com/430-shahriar-discusses-5g/
>>
>> Something else that they point out is that the mm wave tech is not going
>> to wind up in phones, but is more for vehicles or PTMP fixed wireless.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:30 PM Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This one is kinda new to me but makes perfect sense. Rather than say,
>>> "5g building penetration sucks leaving it of marginal utility indoors" we
>>> have a marketing program for neighborhood small cells (!) which are open
>>> access (!!) and sound positively homey.
>>>
>>> I hate marketing.
>>>
>>> Looks to me like you need to augment or replace your wifi with an open
>>> access NSC (neighborhood small cell!) in order to watch high def cat videos
>>> on your phone indoors.
>>>
>>> These reports make it clear that this is nothing but upside.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2018/10/22/samsung-and-qualcomm-work-deliver-industry-leading-5g-nr-small-cell
>>>
>>> https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/10/15/ubiquitous-5g-experiences-small-cells
>>>
>>> Marketing bonuses all around.
>>>
>>> And a word from Qualcomm's Dean Brenner
>>> <https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/04/12/fcc-takes-action-accelerate-small-cell-deployments-and-strengthen-5g-readiness>
>>> who lets us know that we'll need small cells "indoors and out" and applauds
>>> the FCC's steamroller,
>>>
>>>   Doug
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
>>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>>> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Harris
>> --
>> President, Visgence Inc.
>> www.visgence.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>>
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From mimcom at sw-ei.com  Thu Feb 21 20:36:26 2019
From: mimcom at sw-ei.com (Mimbres Communications)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:36:26 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] more 5g fun: neighborhood small cells
In-Reply-To: <CAE7P4RuX4WOdyvhNMVHu7fbJ8VQqrnNFEZjc9JoB+bAAG4dc+A@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 9:13 PM Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:

> A lot of what's happening is were getting a fiber infrastructure plus
> wireless plus mobile.
>
> https://www.cio.com/article/3226451/networking/5g-a-few-frequency-facts.html
>

The overview this presented was not too bad, but they really shouldn't dive
into explaining radio propagation without at least some basic understanding.
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Feb 25 15:08:28 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 16:08:28 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC PR: Additional Rural Funding
Message-ID: <739011c10bf367d91b4968a42ef77e80@1st-mile.org>

FCC OFFERS ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO SUPPORT DEPLOYMENT OF HIGH-SPEED 
BROADBAND SERVICE TO UP TO 110,000 HOMES AND BUSINESSES IN RURAL AMERICA

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-356324A1.pdf

WASHINGTON, February 25, 2019?The Federal Communications Commission 
today offered an additional $67 million in annual support to certain 
rural broadband providers that could bring improved service to nearly 
110,000 homes and businesses in rural communities across 43 states. 
Carriers that accept the offer must expand the availability of broadband 
service delivering at least 25 Mbps downloads/3 Mbps uploads to their 
rural customers. Carriers have 30 days to decide whether to accept the 
additional funding.

Closing the digital divide is the FCC?s top priority. The Connect 
America Fund is key to this effort, providing funding in sparsely 
populated rural areas where the cost of providing and deploying service 
can be high.

The FCC?s Wireline Competition Bureau made the offer of additional 
support to 207 rural rate- of-return carriers that receive funding 
through the Connect America Fund?s Alternative Connect America Cost 
Model, or A-CAM. In return for this increased funding, the providers 
must significantly expand the availability of service delivering at 
least 25/3 Mbps speeds in locations which otherwise would have received 
10/1 Mbps or worse service, thereby better meeting the needs of 
consumers and businesses in today?s online world.



---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Feb 26 09:39:58 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 10:39:58 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Windstream Bankruptcy (and Refinancing)
Message-ID: <308e80f334385010b8fe972d387eaecd@1st-mile.org>

Windstream bankruptcy comes after $310 million court loss against hedge 
fund.

JON BRODKIN - 2/25/2019
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/windstream-isp-with-1-million-customers-files-for-bankruptcy

Windstream?an Internet service provider in mainly rural areas?today 
filed for bankruptcy.

The bankruptcy was spurred by a court ruling from February 15 that could 
cost Windstream hundreds of millions of dollars. The company said the 
bankruptcy will help prevent negative impacts on customers.

Windstream filed petitions for reorganization under Chapter 11 of the 
United States Bankruptcy Code in US Bankruptcy Court for the Southern 
District of New York. Windstream considered other options, including 
appealing the court ruling, but company management and the board of 
directors "determined that filing for voluntary Chapter 11 protection is 
a necessary step to address the financial impact of Judge [Jesse] 
Furman's decision and the impact it would have on consumers and 
businesses across the states in which we operate," Windstream CEO Tony 
Thomas said in the bankruptcy announcement.

Windstream's losing court battle was against hedge fund Aurelius Capital 
Management, "which had argued a two-year-old spinoff of the company's 
fiber-optic cable network violated the covenants on one of its bonds," 
which prohibited "sale-leaseback transactions," The Wall Street Journal 
wrote today.

(Snip)

"Windstream did not arrive in Chapter 11 due to operational failures and 
currently does not anticipate the need to restructure material 
operations,? Thomas also said. "While it is unfortunate that Aurelius 
engaged in these tactics to advance its returns at the expense of 
Windstream, we look forward to working through the financial 
restructuring process to secure a sustainable capital structure so we 
can maintain our strong operational performance and continue serving our 
customers for many years come." Thomas called for government regulation 
of the "unregulated credit default swap marketplace."

The Federal Communications Commission issued a statement on the 
bankruptcy today, saying it's "pleased that Windstream has made clear 
that its reorganization in bankruptcy will not disrupt service to any 
consumers."

Today, Windstream said it has obtained a commitment for $1 billion in 
financing from Citigroup Global Markets. "With approval from the Court, 
we will continue paying our employees, maintaining our relationships 
with our vendors and business partners and serving our customers as 
usual," Thomas said. "We remain committed to providing critical voice 
and data services and ensuring customers realize the maximum benefit in 
transitioning to next-generation technology solutions and premium 
broadband services."

(Snip)

Windstream provides residential service in 18 states, namely Alabama, 
Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississippi, 
Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, 
Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Texas.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Mar  1 10:32:35 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 11:32:35 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Cortez, CO Fiber Network update
Message-ID: <6b90e1a465d1e376a3766afcc215146a@1st-mile.org>

Cortez Begins Negotiations with Fiber-Optic Company

2.27.19
https://the-journal.com/articles/129356

Cortez is moving closer toward a public-private partnership to bring an 
advanced fiber optic network to every business and resident in the city.

City Council on Tuesday gave staff the green light to begin formal 
negotiations with Allo Communications, a telecom company that has 
engaged in fiber partnerships with at least nine cities in Nebraska and 
one city in Colorado, according to the company?s website.

City Manager John Dougherty said staff will come back to City Council 
with a formal proposal once negotiations are complete.

The city released a request for proposal in December that closed in 
January.

General Services Director Rick Smith said a committee that includes him, 
Dougherty and a representative from Osprey Packs reviewed six proposals. 
They recommended that the city move forward with negotiations with Allo 
Communications.

?We?re just starting negotiations,? Smith said. ?It?s not for award 
yet.?

The RFP document states the goal of the program is to ?provide an 
advanced telecommunications road? to each business and residential 
location in the city.

The city included a long list of possible services the private company 
could provide, including financing, design, business model, rate 
structure, construction, operations and network maintenance. Smith said 
the negotiations will narrow those services down.

?We are entering into negotiations to see what kind of end proposal 
we?ll have before City Council awards it,? Smith said.

The existing fiber optic Cortez Community Network serves various anchor 
institutions ? like schools, the hospital and government buildings ? as 
well as some downtown businesses.

According to a broadband feasibility study released by CCG Consulting 
and Finley Engineering in May 2018, a financing structure based entirely 
on a bond issue ?doesn?t look feasible? in Cortez, but a sales tax 
increase might work.

The study discussed several scenarios for how fiber could play out in 
Cortez, including offering a low-speed option for free to all homes with 
higher speeds available to those willing to pay.

?This would make Cortez one of the few places to solve the digital 
divide,? the report states.

CCG Consulting then released the results of a residential broadband 
survey in November. The survey found four out of five Cortez households 
reported that they are unhappy with their internet speeds.

Once staff concludes negotiations with Allo Communications, the City 
Council will consider formally awarding the RFP.

An Allo Communications press release states the company recently 
completed a large fiber installation and construction project in 
Lincoln, Nebraska, a city with a population of 285,000.

sdolan at the-journal.com


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From tom at jtjohnson.com  Mon Mar  4 08:52:07 2019
From: tom at jtjohnson.com (Tom Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 09:52:07 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] T-Mobile and Sprint promise low-cost 5G coverage for
 rural America, aiding remote workers - TechRepublic
Message-ID: <CABg8s8JOMVCbyq60rGPWrPi8OExLTM834nFK4ZFzZkEveHER8Q@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/t-mobile-and-sprint-promise-low-cost-5g-coverage-for-rural-america-aiding-remote-workers/
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Mar  4 19:57:19 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 20:57:19 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Texas Lawmakers Look at Easement Bill for Electric
	Co-ops
Message-ID: <82a0efc4ca30b914a197b72ff504ca18@1st-mile.org>

Might this be needed in NM ?

------

Texas Lawmakers Look at Easement Bill for Electric Co-ops

Fri, March 1, 2019 | Posted by Lisa Gonzalez

https://muninetworks.org/content/texas-lawmakers-look-easement-bill-electric-co-ops

In the past year, communities and cooperatives in Texas have been making 
gallant efforts to better connect local residents and businesses with 
high-quality Internet access. Now, they may get a little help from the 
State Legislature.

Helping Co-ops

Earlier in this session, Senator Robert Nichols introduced SB 14, a bill 
that will allow electric cooperatives that hold easements obtained for 
electric service infrastructure the ability to extend those easements to 
broadband infrastructure. The bill replicates the FIBRE Act, a 2017 
Indiana bill that opened up possibilities for rural cooperatives in that 
state.

Similar to Indiana?s FIBRE Act, the extension of the easement applies to 
those that already exist. By enacting making the change, cooperatives 
that already have infrastructure in place will save time in deploying 
fiber optic networks because they won?t need to obtain a second set of 
easements from members who?ve already granted them for electricity 
infrastructure.

In addition to offering broadband to members sooner, cooperatives who 
are able to take advantage in the change in the law will also save 
financially. Personnel costs, filing, and administrative fees add up 
when a co-op must obtain multiple, sometimes dozens or hundreds, of 
legal easements. Occasionally, a property owner doesn?t consent to an 
easement right away. This change in the law will prevent hang-ups in 
deployment due to uncooperative property owners that can jeopardize a 
project.

(snip)


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From Meagan_Foster at tomudall.senate.gov  Tue Mar  5 14:41:34 2019
From: Meagan_Foster at tomudall.senate.gov (Foster, Meagan (Tom Udall))
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 22:41:34 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Senators Udall, Heinrich, and NTIA's Broadband Summit
Message-ID: <2a472e439fe44d21b560ba3633c93948@P-ESS-SEN-EX22.senate.ussenate.us>

Please consider attending the "Connecting New Mexico - the Future of Broadband in our State" summit on March 22 in ABQ.

You can find more information here: https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/broadband-summit

Cheers,

Meagan Foster | Senior Policy Advisor | Office of U.S. Senator Tom Udall
531 Hart Senate Office Building, Washington, DC 20510 | T: 202.224.6621 |
Connect with Tom at tomudall.senate.gov<http://tomudall.senate.gov/>
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Mar 13 08:39:38 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 09:39:38 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Udall: School Bus Wifi Bill
Message-ID: <169d204829eb84cd92713756f304903f@1st-mile.org>

Udall, Luj?n, Haaland Introduce Bipartisan Bill to Put Wi-Fi on School 
Buses and Help Close the Digital Divide

Bipartisan bill aims to close "homework gap" that disadvantages 
low-income and rural students without internet access at home

Legislation would make Wi-Fi on school buses eligible for E-Rate 
reimbursement

https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/news/press-releases/udall-lujn-haaland-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-put-wi-fi-on-school-buses-and-help-close-the-digital-divide

WASHINGTON ? Today, U.S. Senator Tom Udall and U.S. Representatives Ben 
Ray Luj?n and Deb Haaland introduced a bill to make it easier to put 
wireless internet on school buses in order to help students without 
broadband access at home get online to study, learn, and complete 
homework. The legislation would require the Federal Communications 
Commission?s (FCC) E-Rate Program to reimburse school districts that 
place Wi-Fi technology on school buses carrying students to school or 
school-related extracurricular activities. The bipartisan bill was 
cosponsored by U.S. Senators Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), Catherine Cortez 
Masto (D-Nev.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) in the Senate.

Millions of students need access to the internet to complete their 
assignments, but studies estimate that one-in-five students lack that 
access in their homes. This gap especially impacts low-income, rural, 
and Tribal students who must find other ways to get online to complete 
their homework ? often working out of school parking lots late into the 
night or walking miles to find a reliable signal.

?When we increase access to high-speed internet, we increase access to 
opportunities. Every kid in New Mexico and across the country should 
have every opportunity to succeed ? no matter where they live or how 
much their family makes. But nearly one-third of New Mexico kids are at 
risk of falling behind in school simply because they can?t get on the 
internet at home,? said Udall. ?It?s time to end the homework gap and 
set our kids up for success. By extending internet access to students 
while they commute to and from school, this bill would turn travel time 
into study time, enabling kids to complete their homework before they 
get home. As a member of the Senate Commerce Committee, I?ll continue to 
push for innovative, 21st century solutions to help bridge the digital 
divide that hurts too many rural, Tribal, and low-income communities 
across New Mexico through strong federal investment in broadband and 
internet infrastructure.?

?Our students should be given every opportunity to succeed in their 
schoolwork. Today, that means having access to a reliable Internet 
connection to complete homework, study, and explore academic pursuits. 
When one-fifth of our students can?t log on to further their studies, 
we?re creating a digital divide that will have impacts long after 
graduation,? said Luj?n. ?I?ve heard from students and teachers about 
the burdens they face each day and I?m proud to lead on this effort that 
will help connect communities in New Mexico and across the country, so 
students face fewer hurdles on their road to success.?

?Kids deserve the tools they need to succeed, but one of the biggest 
hurdles students in New Mexico face is the digital divide. Nowadays, 
access to the internet is imperative for school work and also prepares 
students for the technological world we live in. By ensuring school 
buses have wi-fi, we?re adding another access point to resources that 
help students succeed,? said Haaland.

?I whole-heartedly support Senator Udall's efforts to close the digital 
divide, and especially the homework gap, for students who lack internet 
access at home,? added Dr. Veronica C. Garcia, superintendent of Santa 
Fe Public Schools. ?His vision turns idle seat time on the school bus 
into an opportunity for extended learning.  As Superintendent of a 
school district that benefits from rolling school buses, it is exciting 
to know that children throughout the country will be able to experience 
continued learning during their often long commutes home. I applaud Sen. 
Udall for bringing this legislation forward.?

The bill was inspired by an idea put forth by Jonah Madrid, a 
student-athlete from Hatch, New Mexico. In 2016, during a roundtable on 
the homework gap at Hatch Valley High School, Madrid told Udall and FCC 
Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel about the great lengths he would go to 
find Wi-Fi signal after school was over. Madrid said that after 
traveling hours on the bus to football games, he would sit in the dark 
school parking lot late at night to do his homework because that was the 
only place he could access wireless internet. Madrid proposed putting 
wireless technology on his school bus in order to let him and his 
teammates make use of their long bus rides.

?The homework gap is the cruelest part of the digital divide. But with 
Wi-Fi on school buses we can turn ride time into connected time to give 
students the broadband access they need to do their homework. Kudos to 
Reps. Lujan, Welch, and Haaland for their important work to make this 
happen,? said FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel.

Since then, the bipartisan legislation has received widespread support 
from a range of stakeholders, including the School Superintendents 
Association, a professional organization representing thousands of 
educational leaders throughout America and the world, the Competitive 
Carriers Association, an advocacy organization for rural, regional and 
nationwide wireless telecommunications, and the Navajo Tribal Utility 
Authority (NTUA) Wireless, a Navajo-owned communications company. Tribal 
communities are hit particularly hard by the digital divide, with 
approximately 76 percent of Tribal members living in rural New Mexico 
unable to access the internet at home.

?When we think about efficiencies in federal policies, and common sense 
solutions that allow education system leaders to make small changes with 
big impacts: that is the type of policy we can support. AASA applauds 
Mr. Gardner and Mr. Udall for their continued leadership on the issue of 
expanding access to internet for our students, and AASA is pleased to 
support their bill that would require the Federal Communications 
Commission to include Wi-Fi access on school buses an eligible use of 
the E-Rate program. AASA has long supported the E-Rate program, 
responsible for transforming internet access in classrooms across the 
nation over the last two decades, and this legislation is another step 
forward in ensuring that today?s 24-hour students have 24-hour access,? 
said Daniel A. Domenech, Executive Director of the School 
Superintendents Association.

?Access to educational resources is just one of the many benefits that 
robust mobile broadband can bring to communities across the country.  
Allowing students the opportunity to do homework and access the Internet 
on school buses is a perfect example, and CCA supports this effort to 
ensure no student ? whether urban or rural ? is left behind in the 
digital world,? said Steven K. Berry, President and CEO of the 
Competitive Carriers Association.

Clyde Casciato, NTUA Wireless General Manager said, ?Those living on the 
Navajo nation know firsthand that internet access is too often not 
available at home or in their community, making it nearly impossible for 
students to complete homework assignments and research projects. In 
trials where NTUAW has partnered with Kayenta Unified School District to 
provide this service on three different school bus routes, the 
technology worked successfully and has been used regularly by students 
to complete assignments.  With this service, students are able to take 
advantage of what would otherwise be lost hours on the school bus each 
day to continue their education.  E-Rate funds are necessary to support 
this initiative, or it will never become a reality for most schools as 
they cannot afford to take on the expense of this additional service. 
Without a doubt, expanding E-Rate funds to include internet access on 
school buses will impact the quality of education received by so many 
students on the Navajo Nation. On behalf of NTUAW, I want to thank you 
for advocating to fund this service, and look forward to the opportunity 
to partner with schools to get it deployed on school buses throughout 
the Navajo Nation.?

The full text of the legislation is available HERE.
https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/S%20738%20School%20Bus%20WiFi.pdf

A summary of the bill is available HERE.
https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/School%20Bus%20WiFi%20One%20Pager.pdf


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From mimcom at sw-ei.com  Wed Mar 13 09:20:12 2019
From: mimcom at sw-ei.com (Mimbres Communications)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 10:20:12 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Udall: School Bus Wifi Bill
In-Reply-To: <169d204829eb84cd92713756f304903f@1st-mile.org>
References: <169d204829eb84cd92713756f304903f@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <CAOn4WVxL8ZS_pgs25NvubnsO5h3fSioK78muRk9ktKgg6SAo5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Getting Internet to a moving school bus in remote rural areas presents its
own challenges.  Big Cellular will be happy to help (with appropriate
incentives, of course).

Microsoft thinks TVWS could be the answer, and (despite the lackluster
performance we saw from first generation TVWS gear) I'm inclined to agree.
See p.13 of
https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1003002645838/October%202%202018%20White%20Spaces%20Ex%20Parte%20(FINAL).pdf

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 9:39 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:

> Udall, Luj?n, Haaland Introduce Bipartisan Bill to Put Wi-Fi on School
> Buses and Help Close the Digital Divide
>
> Bipartisan bill aims to close "homework gap" that disadvantages
> low-income and rural students without internet access at home
>
> Legislation would make Wi-Fi on school buses eligible for E-Rate
> reimbursement
>
>
> https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/news/press-releases/udall-lujn-haaland-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-put-wi-fi-on-school-buses-and-help-close-the-digital-divide
>
> WASHINGTON ? Today, U.S. Senator Tom Udall and U.S. Representatives Ben
> Ray Luj?n and Deb Haaland introduced a bill to make it easier to put
> wireless internet on school buses in order to help students without
> broadband access at home get online to study, learn, and complete
> homework. The legislation would require the Federal Communications
> Commission?s (FCC) E-Rate Program to reimburse school districts that
> place Wi-Fi technology on school buses carrying students to school or
> school-related extracurricular activities. The bipartisan bill was
> cosponsored by U.S. Senators Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), Catherine Cortez
> Masto (D-Nev.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) in the Senate.
>
> Millions of students need access to the internet to complete their
> assignments, but studies estimate that one-in-five students lack that
> access in their homes. This gap especially impacts low-income, rural,
> and Tribal students who must find other ways to get online to complete
> their homework ? often working out of school parking lots late into the
> night or walking miles to find a reliable signal.
>
> ?When we increase access to high-speed internet, we increase access to
> opportunities. Every kid in New Mexico and across the country should
> have every opportunity to succeed ? no matter where they live or how
> much their family makes. But nearly one-third of New Mexico kids are at
> risk of falling behind in school simply because they can?t get on the
> internet at home,? said Udall. ?It?s time to end the homework gap and
> set our kids up for success. By extending internet access to students
> while they commute to and from school, this bill would turn travel time
> into study time, enabling kids to complete their homework before they
> get home. As a member of the Senate Commerce Committee, I?ll continue to
> push for innovative, 21st century solutions to help bridge the digital
> divide that hurts too many rural, Tribal, and low-income communities
> across New Mexico through strong federal investment in broadband and
> internet infrastructure.?
>
> ?Our students should be given every opportunity to succeed in their
> schoolwork. Today, that means having access to a reliable Internet
> connection to complete homework, study, and explore academic pursuits.
> When one-fifth of our students can?t log on to further their studies,
> we?re creating a digital divide that will have impacts long after
> graduation,? said Luj?n. ?I?ve heard from students and teachers about
> the burdens they face each day and I?m proud to lead on this effort that
> will help connect communities in New Mexico and across the country, so
> students face fewer hurdles on their road to success.?
>
> ?Kids deserve the tools they need to succeed, but one of the biggest
> hurdles students in New Mexico face is the digital divide. Nowadays,
> access to the internet is imperative for school work and also prepares
> students for the technological world we live in. By ensuring school
> buses have wi-fi, we?re adding another access point to resources that
> help students succeed,? said Haaland.
>
> ?I whole-heartedly support Senator Udall's efforts to close the digital
> divide, and especially the homework gap, for students who lack internet
> access at home,? added Dr. Veronica C. Garcia, superintendent of Santa
> Fe Public Schools. ?His vision turns idle seat time on the school bus
> into an opportunity for extended learning.  As Superintendent of a
> school district that benefits from rolling school buses, it is exciting
> to know that children throughout the country will be able to experience
> continued learning during their often long commutes home. I applaud Sen.
> Udall for bringing this legislation forward.?
>
> The bill was inspired by an idea put forth by Jonah Madrid, a
> student-athlete from Hatch, New Mexico. In 2016, during a roundtable on
> the homework gap at Hatch Valley High School, Madrid told Udall and FCC
> Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel about the great lengths he would go to
> find Wi-Fi signal after school was over. Madrid said that after
> traveling hours on the bus to football games, he would sit in the dark
> school parking lot late at night to do his homework because that was the
> only place he could access wireless internet. Madrid proposed putting
> wireless technology on his school bus in order to let him and his
> teammates make use of their long bus rides.
>
> ?The homework gap is the cruelest part of the digital divide. But with
> Wi-Fi on school buses we can turn ride time into connected time to give
> students the broadband access they need to do their homework. Kudos to
> Reps. Lujan, Welch, and Haaland for their important work to make this
> happen,? said FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel.
>
> Since then, the bipartisan legislation has received widespread support
> from a range of stakeholders, including the School Superintendents
> Association, a professional organization representing thousands of
> educational leaders throughout America and the world, the Competitive
> Carriers Association, an advocacy organization for rural, regional and
> nationwide wireless telecommunications, and the Navajo Tribal Utility
> Authority (NTUA) Wireless, a Navajo-owned communications company. Tribal
> communities are hit particularly hard by the digital divide, with
> approximately 76 percent of Tribal members living in rural New Mexico
> unable to access the internet at home.
>
> ?When we think about efficiencies in federal policies, and common sense
> solutions that allow education system leaders to make small changes with
> big impacts: that is the type of policy we can support. AASA applauds
> Mr. Gardner and Mr. Udall for their continued leadership on the issue of
> expanding access to internet for our students, and AASA is pleased to
> support their bill that would require the Federal Communications
> Commission to include Wi-Fi access on school buses an eligible use of
> the E-Rate program. AASA has long supported the E-Rate program,
> responsible for transforming internet access in classrooms across the
> nation over the last two decades, and this legislation is another step
> forward in ensuring that today?s 24-hour students have 24-hour access,?
> said Daniel A. Domenech, Executive Director of the School
> Superintendents Association.
>
> ?Access to educational resources is just one of the many benefits that
> robust mobile broadband can bring to communities across the country.
> Allowing students the opportunity to do homework and access the Internet
> on school buses is a perfect example, and CCA supports this effort to
> ensure no student ? whether urban or rural ? is left behind in the
> digital world,? said Steven K. Berry, President and CEO of the
> Competitive Carriers Association.
>
> Clyde Casciato, NTUA Wireless General Manager said, ?Those living on the
> Navajo nation know firsthand that internet access is too often not
> available at home or in their community, making it nearly impossible for
> students to complete homework assignments and research projects. In
> trials where NTUAW has partnered with Kayenta Unified School District to
> provide this service on three different school bus routes, the
> technology worked successfully and has been used regularly by students
> to complete assignments.  With this service, students are able to take
> advantage of what would otherwise be lost hours on the school bus each
> day to continue their education.  E-Rate funds are necessary to support
> this initiative, or it will never become a reality for most schools as
> they cannot afford to take on the expense of this additional service.
> Without a doubt, expanding E-Rate funds to include internet access on
> school buses will impact the quality of education received by so many
> students on the Navajo Nation. On behalf of NTUAW, I want to thank you
> for advocating to fund this service, and look forward to the opportunity
> to partner with schools to get it deployed on school buses throughout
> the Navajo Nation.?
>
> The full text of the legislation is available HERE.
>
> https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/S%20738%20School%20Bus%20WiFi.pdf
>
> A summary of the bill is available HERE.
>
> https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/School%20Bus%20WiFi%20One%20Pager.pdf
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 11:30:10 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:30:10 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Udall: School Bus Wifi Bill
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I'm just starting up a mailing list for broader nm tech discussions so I
don't pollute 1st-mile so much. I'll send out pointers in a bit if anyone's
interested.

Just one last time -- as I say, I'll soon have a new place which will
receive this sort of awesomeness.

I've been looking into whitespace stuff a bit, recently. Here are some
interesting links:
https://www.google.com/get/spectrumdatabase/
http://www.radiosoft.com/
https://www.carlsonwireless.com/tv-white-space/
https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/InnovationsinSpectrumManagement_March2019-EN.pdf
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/t-mobile-dominates-spectrum-auction-will-boost-lte-network-across-us/
http://www.whitespacealliance.org/
http://www.adaptrum.com/

T-Mobile is getting rural mayors to support their Sprint merger on the
basis that they'll be able to provide better service to rural customers.
They've been buying up 600Mhz spectrum like crazy. They could offer a
separate rural broadband product. Anything looped in with a mobile offering
has the problem that there's a 93% cell phone penetration in this country
so supporting rural, mostly means no new plan sales. Maybe bandwidth
charges would be worth it but...density... they risk spending money without
getting new revenue.

I just heard back from Carlson Wireless -- they're selling base stations
for $4k and client access stations for $460. They claim a base station
serves "hundreds" of subscribers, 72Mbps aggregate per base, 10/1Mbps for
up to 30 subscribers. I've attached their brochure. They'll do the
whitespace db lookup for you to see if there is interference (I'm guessing
NM's population of wireless mic's is one of the lower ones :)

So, that's interesting, no? They say there's a two month backlog on orders.

  Doug

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:20 AM Mimbres Communications <mimcom at sw-ei.com>
wrote:

> Getting Internet to a moving school bus in remote rural areas presents its
> own challenges.  Big Cellular will be happy to help (with appropriate
> incentives, of course).
>
> Microsoft thinks TVWS could be the answer, and (despite the lackluster
> performance we saw from first generation TVWS gear) I'm inclined to agree.
> See p.13 of
> https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1003002645838/October%202%202018%20White%20Spaces%20Ex%20Parte%20(FINAL).pdf
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 9:39 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:
>
>> Udall, Luj?n, Haaland Introduce Bipartisan Bill to Put Wi-Fi on School
>> Buses and Help Close the Digital Divide
>>
>> Bipartisan bill aims to close "homework gap" that disadvantages
>> low-income and rural students without internet access at home
>>
>> Legislation would make Wi-Fi on school buses eligible for E-Rate
>> reimbursement
>>
>>
>> https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/news/press-releases/udall-lujn-haaland-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-put-wi-fi-on-school-buses-and-help-close-the-digital-divide
>>
>> WASHINGTON ? Today, U.S. Senator Tom Udall and U.S. Representatives Ben
>> Ray Luj?n and Deb Haaland introduced a bill to make it easier to put
>> wireless internet on school buses in order to help students without
>> broadband access at home get online to study, learn, and complete
>> homework. The legislation would require the Federal Communications
>> Commission?s (FCC) E-Rate Program to reimburse school districts that
>> place Wi-Fi technology on school buses carrying students to school or
>> school-related extracurricular activities. The bipartisan bill was
>> cosponsored by U.S. Senators Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), Catherine Cortez
>> Masto (D-Nev.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) in the Senate.
>>
>> Millions of students need access to the internet to complete their
>> assignments, but studies estimate that one-in-five students lack that
>> access in their homes. This gap especially impacts low-income, rural,
>> and Tribal students who must find other ways to get online to complete
>> their homework ? often working out of school parking lots late into the
>> night or walking miles to find a reliable signal.
>>
>> ?When we increase access to high-speed internet, we increase access to
>> opportunities. Every kid in New Mexico and across the country should
>> have every opportunity to succeed ? no matter where they live or how
>> much their family makes. But nearly one-third of New Mexico kids are at
>> risk of falling behind in school simply because they can?t get on the
>> internet at home,? said Udall. ?It?s time to end the homework gap and
>> set our kids up for success. By extending internet access to students
>> while they commute to and from school, this bill would turn travel time
>> into study time, enabling kids to complete their homework before they
>> get home. As a member of the Senate Commerce Committee, I?ll continue to
>> push for innovative, 21st century solutions to help bridge the digital
>> divide that hurts too many rural, Tribal, and low-income communities
>> across New Mexico through strong federal investment in broadband and
>> internet infrastructure.?
>>
>> ?Our students should be given every opportunity to succeed in their
>> schoolwork. Today, that means having access to a reliable Internet
>> connection to complete homework, study, and explore academic pursuits.
>> When one-fifth of our students can?t log on to further their studies,
>> we?re creating a digital divide that will have impacts long after
>> graduation,? said Luj?n. ?I?ve heard from students and teachers about
>> the burdens they face each day and I?m proud to lead on this effort that
>> will help connect communities in New Mexico and across the country, so
>> students face fewer hurdles on their road to success.?
>>
>> ?Kids deserve the tools they need to succeed, but one of the biggest
>> hurdles students in New Mexico face is the digital divide. Nowadays,
>> access to the internet is imperative for school work and also prepares
>> students for the technological world we live in. By ensuring school
>> buses have wi-fi, we?re adding another access point to resources that
>> help students succeed,? said Haaland.
>>
>> ?I whole-heartedly support Senator Udall's efforts to close the digital
>> divide, and especially the homework gap, for students who lack internet
>> access at home,? added Dr. Veronica C. Garcia, superintendent of Santa
>> Fe Public Schools. ?His vision turns idle seat time on the school bus
>> into an opportunity for extended learning.  As Superintendent of a
>> school district that benefits from rolling school buses, it is exciting
>> to know that children throughout the country will be able to experience
>> continued learning during their often long commutes home. I applaud Sen.
>> Udall for bringing this legislation forward.?
>>
>> The bill was inspired by an idea put forth by Jonah Madrid, a
>> student-athlete from Hatch, New Mexico. In 2016, during a roundtable on
>> the homework gap at Hatch Valley High School, Madrid told Udall and FCC
>> Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel about the great lengths he would go to
>> find Wi-Fi signal after school was over. Madrid said that after
>> traveling hours on the bus to football games, he would sit in the dark
>> school parking lot late at night to do his homework because that was the
>> only place he could access wireless internet. Madrid proposed putting
>> wireless technology on his school bus in order to let him and his
>> teammates make use of their long bus rides.
>>
>> ?The homework gap is the cruelest part of the digital divide. But with
>> Wi-Fi on school buses we can turn ride time into connected time to give
>> students the broadband access they need to do their homework. Kudos to
>> Reps. Lujan, Welch, and Haaland for their important work to make this
>> happen,? said FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel.
>>
>> Since then, the bipartisan legislation has received widespread support
>> from a range of stakeholders, including the School Superintendents
>> Association, a professional organization representing thousands of
>> educational leaders throughout America and the world, the Competitive
>> Carriers Association, an advocacy organization for rural, regional and
>> nationwide wireless telecommunications, and the Navajo Tribal Utility
>> Authority (NTUA) Wireless, a Navajo-owned communications company. Tribal
>> communities are hit particularly hard by the digital divide, with
>> approximately 76 percent of Tribal members living in rural New Mexico
>> unable to access the internet at home.
>>
>> ?When we think about efficiencies in federal policies, and common sense
>> solutions that allow education system leaders to make small changes with
>> big impacts: that is the type of policy we can support. AASA applauds
>> Mr. Gardner and Mr. Udall for their continued leadership on the issue of
>> expanding access to internet for our students, and AASA is pleased to
>> support their bill that would require the Federal Communications
>> Commission to include Wi-Fi access on school buses an eligible use of
>> the E-Rate program. AASA has long supported the E-Rate program,
>> responsible for transforming internet access in classrooms across the
>> nation over the last two decades, and this legislation is another step
>> forward in ensuring that today?s 24-hour students have 24-hour access,?
>> said Daniel A. Domenech, Executive Director of the School
>> Superintendents Association.
>>
>> ?Access to educational resources is just one of the many benefits that
>> robust mobile broadband can bring to communities across the country.
>> Allowing students the opportunity to do homework and access the Internet
>> on school buses is a perfect example, and CCA supports this effort to
>> ensure no student ? whether urban or rural ? is left behind in the
>> digital world,? said Steven K. Berry, President and CEO of the
>> Competitive Carriers Association.
>>
>> Clyde Casciato, NTUA Wireless General Manager said, ?Those living on the
>> Navajo nation know firsthand that internet access is too often not
>> available at home or in their community, making it nearly impossible for
>> students to complete homework assignments and research projects. In
>> trials where NTUAW has partnered with Kayenta Unified School District to
>> provide this service on three different school bus routes, the
>> technology worked successfully and has been used regularly by students
>> to complete assignments.  With this service, students are able to take
>> advantage of what would otherwise be lost hours on the school bus each
>> day to continue their education.  E-Rate funds are necessary to support
>> this initiative, or it will never become a reality for most schools as
>> they cannot afford to take on the expense of this additional service.
>> Without a doubt, expanding E-Rate funds to include internet access on
>> school buses will impact the quality of education received by so many
>> students on the Navajo Nation. On behalf of NTUAW, I want to thank you
>> for advocating to fund this service, and look forward to the opportunity
>> to partner with schools to get it deployed on school buses throughout
>> the Navajo Nation.?
>>
>> The full text of the legislation is available HERE.
>>
>> https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/S%20738%20School%20Bus%20WiFi.pdf
>>
>> A summary of the bill is available HERE.
>>
>> https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/School%20Bus%20WiFi%20One%20Pager.pdf
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
>> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
>> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
>> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> _______________________________________________
>> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Kurt Albershardt  |  Mimbres Communications, LLC  |  575-342-0042
>
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From mimcom at sw-ei.com  Wed Mar 13 12:24:18 2019
From: mimcom at sw-ei.com (Mimbres Communications)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 13:24:18 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] TVWS
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I've been watching this space (pun intended) for over a decade now.  We got
close to a trial with Adaptrum about two years back, but decided to wait
for their third-generation hardware, which was still 'coming soon' the last
time I spoke with them.

Currently available radios are far too expensive and have significant
limitations -- partly due to regulatory limits and partly from
underperforming hardware.  70 mbits/sec total throughput from a
multi-thousand dollar AP and multi-hundred dollar CPEs is just not going to
work for us and for our customers.   Some of the products look like they
were assembled in a garage, and there seems to be a bigger focus on
marketing than on engineering at certain manufacturers.

Microsoft's proposed changes to Part 15 would allow much more effective
utilization of the band, and would stimulate the kind of investment by
manufacturers needed to drive any kind of mass adoption.

I remain optimistic...




On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:30 PM Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm just starting up a mailing list for broader nm tech discussions so I
> don't pollute 1st-mile so much. I'll send out pointers in a bit if anyone's
> interested.
>
> Just one last time -- as I say, I'll soon have a new place which will
> receive this sort of awesomeness.
>
> I've been looking into whitespace stuff a bit, recently. Here are some
> interesting links:
> https://www.google.com/get/spectrumdatabase/
> http://www.radiosoft.com/
> https://www.carlsonwireless.com/tv-white-space/
>
> https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/InnovationsinSpectrumManagement_March2019-EN.pdf
>
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/t-mobile-dominates-spectrum-auction-will-boost-lte-network-across-us/
> http://www.whitespacealliance.org/
> http://www.adaptrum.com/
>
> T-Mobile is getting rural mayors to support their Sprint merger on the
> basis that they'll be able to provide better service to rural customers.
> They've been buying up 600Mhz spectrum like crazy. They could offer a
> separate rural broadband product. Anything looped in with a mobile offering
> has the problem that there's a 93% cell phone penetration in this country
> so supporting rural, mostly means no new plan sales. Maybe bandwidth
> charges would be worth it but...density... they risk spending money without
> getting new revenue.
>
> I just heard back from Carlson Wireless -- they're selling base stations
> for $4k and client access stations for $460. They claim a base station
> serves "hundreds" of subscribers, 72Mbps aggregate per base, 10/1Mbps for
> up to 30 subscribers. I've attached their brochure. They'll do the
> whitespace db lookup for you to see if there is interference (I'm guessing
> NM's population of wireless mic's is one of the lower ones :)
>
> So, that's interesting, no? They say there's a two month backlog on orders.
>
>   Doug
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:20 AM Mimbres Communications <mimcom at sw-ei.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Getting Internet to a moving school bus in remote rural areas presents
>> its own challenges.  Big Cellular will be happy to help (with appropriate
>> incentives, of course).
>>
>> Microsoft thinks TVWS could be the answer, and (despite the lackluster
>> performance we saw from first generation TVWS gear) I'm inclined to agree.
>> See p.13 of
>> https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1003002645838/October%202%202018%20White%20Spaces%20Ex%20Parte%20(FINAL).pdf
>>
>>
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From david at breeckerassociates.com  Fri Mar 15 10:52:09 2019
From: david at breeckerassociates.com (David Breecker [dba])
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:52:09 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Three ways governors are investing in innovation
Message-ID: <C77032DD-228F-473F-97AA-CE93595AAD40@breeckerassociates.com>

Broadband access is one of three categories covered in this Brookings survey:

3. EXPANDING ACCESS TO BROADBAND

Our colleagues Adie Tomer, Elizabeth Kneebone, and Ranjitha Shivaram put it well when they wrote <https://www.brookings.edu/research/signs-of-digital-distress-mapping-broadband-availability/>, ?broadband?is the essential infrastructure for unlocking the internet?s economic benefits.? According to Burning Glass Technologies <https://www.burning-glass.com/about/faq/>, approximately 85 percent of jobs are now posted online?meaning that job seekers without regular access to the internet are at a severe disadvantage. Governors are responding: By our count, at least 18 governors highlighted substantial new investments to help residents access broadband. This compares to just six governors who mentioned broadband <http://www.governing.com/blogs/by-the-numbers/gov-state-of-the-state-speeches-summary.html> in 2013.

By our count, at least 18 governors highlighted substantial new investments to help residents access broadband, compared to just six governors who mentioned broadband in 2013.
Several governors? statements on broadband investments stood out. Missouri Governor Mike Parson touted an incoming $255 million federal investment <https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2018/08/28/verizon-others-win-fcc-auction-bring-broadband-1-7-million-rural-americans/1119091002/> from the FCC, supported by $5 million in state funds, to expand the state?s broadband networks. South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem outlined a detailed plan for closing broadband gaps in her state, including through the deployment of 5G technology. And Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont also signaled his embrace of 5G as part of a plan to ?invest wisely in [Connecticut?s] urban centers? in order to ?attract millennials, top talent, and leading companies.? Governors from both political parties and in every region of the country expressed support for broadband investment.


https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2019/03/12/three-ways-governors-are-investing-in-innovation/?utm_campaign=Metropolitan Policy Program&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=70794949 <https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2019/03/12/three-ways-governors-are-investing-in-innovation/?utm_campaign=Metropolitan%20Policy%20Program&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=70794949> 
David Breecker,
President



David Breecker Associates
www.breeckerassociates.com <http://www.breeckerassociates.com/>

Santa Fe Office: 505-690-2335
Abiquiu Office:   505-685-4891
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 07:48:15 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 08:48:15 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] tech-discuss@newmexico.com
Message-ID: <CAE7P4Rse1+65XOeKJ0xguuNTCj2KbeXXdkXn=HGPUwZSLwfdXw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey All,

The nice folks at cybermesa set me up with a mailing list,

tech-discuss at newmexico.com

for longer form discussions and news that may be interesting to the NM tech
community.

Here <http://mailman.newmexico.com/mailman/listinfo/tech-discuss> is the
mailing list admin link. Please join if you'd like.

I'll probably post a few things, links and commentary, a day. I'm not known
for my brevity and I can't predict how much traffic others will generate.

I'll moderate and that may be a bit of a work in progress, so patience is
appreciated.

  Doug
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From dr.hearsahu at protonmail.com  Wed Mar 20 08:13:35 2019
From: dr.hearsahu at protonmail.com (Larry)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:13:35 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] tech-discuss@newmexico.com
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Doug, your signup page is not secure.  Please let me know when it is.

Thanks,
Larry

Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:48 AM, Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> The nice folks at cybermesa set me up with a mailing list,
>
> tech-discuss at newmexico.com
>
> for longer form discussions and news that may be interesting to the NM tech community.
>
> [Here](http://mailman.newmexico.com/mailman/listinfo/tech-discuss) is the mailing list admin link. Please join if you'd like.
>
> I'll probably post a few things, links and commentary, a day. I'm not known for my brevity and I can't predict how much traffic others will generate.
>
> I'll moderate and that may be a bit of a work in progress, so patience is appreciated.
>
>   Doug
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 08:25:13 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 09:25:13 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] tech-discuss@newmexico.com
In-Reply-To: <fullYTNZD57Bat99NQzcN2o4WVkAGSnKJA368s7EyamEm_XrD479_1pPnYwpH47j6qpUVGqJYZYZO5J7dCgoINZE74BbzizC8WkAuFua15E=@protonmail.com>
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Will do. I understand it's a WIP.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 9:13 AM Larry <dr.hearsahu at protonmail.com> wrote:

> Doug, your signup page is not secure.  Please let me know when it is.
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:48 AM, Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> The nice folks at cybermesa set me up with a mailing list,
>
> tech-discuss at newmexico.com
>
> for longer form discussions and news that may be interesting to the NM
> tech community.
>
> Here <http://mailman.newmexico.com/mailman/listinfo/tech-discuss> is the
> mailing list admin link. Please join if you'd like.
>
> I'll probably post a few things, links and commentary, a day. I'm not
> known for my brevity and I can't predict how much traffic others will
> generate.
>
> I'll moderate and that may be a bit of a work in progress, so patience is
> appreciated.
>
>   Doug
>
>
>
>
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From john at jfloren.net  Wed Mar 20 08:48:39 2019
From: john at jfloren.net (John Floren)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 09:48:39 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] tech-discuss@newmexico.com
In-Reply-To: <CAE7P4Rs8fETuW+Z5jk-5xaiz8G6VpF=BUs8q6YOk9Scbvygv5w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<fullYTNZD57Bat99NQzcN2o4WVkAGSnKJA368s7EyamEm_XrD479_1pPnYwpH47j6qpUVGqJYZYZO5J7dCgoINZE74BbzizC8WkAuFua15E=@protonmail.com>
	<CAE7P4Rs8fETuW+Z5jk-5xaiz8G6VpF=BUs8q6YOk9Scbvygv5w@mail.gmail.com>
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You can also send an email to "tech-discuss-subscribe at newmexico.com"
with the subject line "subscribe".

Of course being email it is also "not secure"... but in either case
you're just sending your email address. Your email address which will
be included in every email you receive from the list, and on every
mail you post to the list, and of course SMTP between servers is not
guaranteed to be encrypted, so...

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 9:27 AM Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Will do. I understand it's a WIP.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 9:13 AM Larry <dr.hearsahu at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Doug, your signup page is not secure.  Please let me know when it is.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Larry
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:48 AM, Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> The nice folks at cybermesa set me up with a mailing list,
>>
>> tech-discuss at newmexico.com
>>
>> for longer form discussions and news that may be interesting to the NM tech community.
>>
>> Here is the mailing list admin link. Please join if you'd like.
>>
>> I'll probably post a few things, links and commentary, a day. I'm not known for my brevity and I can't predict how much traffic others will generate.
>>
>> I'll moderate and that may be a bit of a work in progress, so patience is appreciated.
>>
>>   Doug
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm


From doug.orr at gmail.com  Wed Mar 20 09:22:49 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 10:22:49 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] tech-discuss@newmexico.com
In-Reply-To: <CAL4LZyjHA0vHJKUv0sMBe=PGpO_7h-D0vaAAB+YyCsgPeJ=-Kg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE7P4Rse1+65XOeKJ0xguuNTCj2KbeXXdkXn=HGPUwZSLwfdXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<fullYTNZD57Bat99NQzcN2o4WVkAGSnKJA368s7EyamEm_XrD479_1pPnYwpH47j6qpUVGqJYZYZO5J7dCgoINZE74BbzizC8WkAuFua15E=@protonmail.com>
	<CAE7P4Rs8fETuW+Z5jk-5xaiz8G6VpF=BUs8q6YOk9Scbvygv5w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL4LZyjHA0vHJKUv0sMBe=PGpO_7h-D0vaAAB+YyCsgPeJ=-Kg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE7P4Rv6TEQX5f8359OccaQe49L3vPMaVsEq5YdQbdQqGksyVA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, good hint John.

Actually, I chose the option to not include emails on posts. And, it's
pretty unusual these days to have insecure smtp, or forwarded smtp. So not
so bad...

Fwiw, I agree it's preferable to have the mailman secured...just a wip.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 9:49 AM John Floren <john at jfloren.net> wrote:

> You can also send an email to "tech-discuss-subscribe at newmexico.com"
> with the subject line "subscribe".
>
> Of course being email it is also "not secure"... but in either case
> you're just sending your email address. Your email address which will
> be included in every email you receive from the list, and on every
> mail you post to the list, and of course SMTP between servers is not
> guaranteed to be encrypted, so...
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 9:27 AM Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Will do. I understand it's a WIP.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 9:13 AM Larry <dr.hearsahu at protonmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Doug, your signup page is not secure.  Please let me know when it is.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Larry
> >>
> >> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:48 AM, Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey All,
> >>
> >> The nice folks at cybermesa set me up with a mailing list,
> >>
> >> tech-discuss at newmexico.com
> >>
> >> for longer form discussions and news that may be interesting to the NM
> tech community.
> >>
> >> Here is the mailing list admin link. Please join if you'd like.
> >>
> >> I'll probably post a few things, links and commentary, a day. I'm not
> known for my brevity and I can't predict how much traffic others will
> generate.
> >>
> >> I'll moderate and that may be a bit of a work in progress, so patience
> is appreciated.
> >>
> >>   Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> > 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> > http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Thu Mar 21 06:52:00 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 07:52:00 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] tech-discuss@newmexico.com
In-Reply-To: <fullYTNZD57Bat99NQzcN2o4WVkAGSnKJA368s7EyamEm_XrD479_1pPnYwpH47j6qpUVGqJYZYZO5J7dCgoINZE74BbzizC8WkAuFua15E=@protonmail.com>
References: <CAE7P4Rse1+65XOeKJ0xguuNTCj2KbeXXdkXn=HGPUwZSLwfdXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<fullYTNZD57Bat99NQzcN2o4WVkAGSnKJA368s7EyamEm_XrD479_1pPnYwpH47j6qpUVGqJYZYZO5J7dCgoINZE74BbzizC8WkAuFua15E=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE7P4Rs=5BKhs8zpZFfe+Pep6aUofQVAoEMAozicdU_UVK-ssA@mail.gmail.com>

Ok give https a try now. The valiant Tim made it so.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 9:13 AM Larry <dr.hearsahu at protonmail.com> wrote:

> Doug, your signup page is not secure.  Please let me know when it is.
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:48 AM, Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> The nice folks at cybermesa set me up with a mailing list,
>
> tech-discuss at newmexico.com
>
> for longer form discussions and news that may be interesting to the NM
> tech community.
>
> Here <http://mailman.newmexico.com/mailman/listinfo/tech-discuss> is the
> mailing list admin link. Please join if you'd like.
>
> I'll probably post a few things, links and commentary, a day. I'm not
> known for my brevity and I can't predict how much traffic others will
> generate.
>
> I'll moderate and that may be a bit of a work in progress, so patience is
> appreciated.
>
>   Doug
>
>
>
>
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu Mar 21 17:10:08 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 18:10:08 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] State Broadband Summit: Albuquerque, Friday 3.22
Message-ID: <08d2f73b3d0effbf8a15ef33922c068f@1st-mile.org>


Sen. Tom Udall has organized the "Future of Broadband In Our State 
Summit" in Albuquerque tomorrow, Friday March 22.

Details are here. 
https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2019%20Broadband%20Summit%20Agenda%20-%20ABQ[2].pdf

Registration deadline has passed.

Not sure why Sen. Udall's Office has not let the 1st-Mile list know 
about this.


---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From lpascual at asoundlook.com  Fri Mar 22 05:53:52 2019
From: lpascual at asoundlook.com (Leonard Pascual)
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 12:53:52 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] State Broadband Summit: Albuquerque, Friday 3.22
In-Reply-To: <08d2f73b3d0effbf8a15ef33922c068f@1st-mile.org>
References: <08d2f73b3d0effbf8a15ef33922c068f@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <SN6PR14MB23832D9C6F245094B28BF3DEA5430@SN6PR14MB2383.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Oh well...Lol

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

________________________________
From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 6:11 PM
To: 1st-mile Nm
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] State Broadband Summit: Albuquerque, Friday 3.22


Sen. Tom Udall has organized the "Future of Broadband In Our State
Summit" in Albuquerque tomorrow, Friday March 22.

Details are here.
https://www.tomudall.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2019%20Broadband%20Summit%20Agenda%20-%20ABQ[2].pdf

Registration deadline has passed.

Not sure why Sen. Udall's Office has not let the 1st-Mile list know
about this.


---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Sat Mar 23 10:31:14 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 11:31:14 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] =?utf-8?q?Connecting_New_Mexico_=E2=80=93_The_Futur?=
 =?utf-8?q?e_of_Broadband_in_our_State?=
Message-ID: <2db0622e18f4bf7cfa1dc961c7a8c33e@1st-mile.org>

Connecting New Mexico ? The Future of Broadband in our State

Some of us subscribed to this list attended yesterday?s Connecting NM 
sessions in Albuquerque.   I want to congratulate the organizers, 
primarily Senator Udall?s Office, for this important and timely meeting, 
which was free and remarkably well attended (see attached image).  
Senator Udall, who serves on a number of federal committees that address 
our national broadband agenda, introduced presenters from NM and from 
the co-sponsoring NTIA in DC, stewarding information sessions and 
discussions on bridging digital divides, schools networking, new 
technologies, policy issues, community broadband planning, rural 
aggregation demand and partnering strategies, tribal matters, federal 
and state funding, next steps and much more.   The program was 
additionally sponsored by Senator Heinrich?s Office, City of Albuquerque 
and Broadband USA.

The devil (reality of broadband related development in New Mexico) is in 
the details and in what we do next.   Stay involved and stay tuned 
online as we work to shape an intelligent, healthy and sustaining 
networked future for the people of this state.

RL


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From mimcom at sw-ei.com  Sat Apr  6 08:28:41 2019
From: mimcom at sw-ei.com (Mimbres Communications)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 09:28:41 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Winners and Losers of the FCC Small Cell Order
Message-ID: <CAOn4WVxYw05y7gon-OSd240wBM2v3iPE37s8dT90xXR0n8+-Jw@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.steelintheair.com/Blog/2019/01/winners-and-losers-of-the-fcc-small-cell-order.html


-- 

Kurt Albershardt  |  Mimbres Communications, LLC  |  575-342-0042
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Sat Apr  6 15:43:09 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2019 16:43:09 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] New Fiber Provision in Santa Fe
Message-ID: <023c13ac5e4da87dec669a63520d71bb@1st-mile.org>

Santa Fe?s Fastest New Internet Connection

New fiber optic cable increases internet speeds and reliability for 
businesses on Cerrillos Road

By Leah Cantor
(See the article online to view photos)

https://www.sfreporter.com/news/2019/04/04/santa-fes-fastest-new-internet-connection

Immediate loading times. Unlimited bandwidth and streaming capacity. 
Blitz-speed uploads. Unprecedented reliability of connection. All of 
these features and more are the perks of connecting to the internet 
through fiber optic cables, something that is becoming more and more 
available to businesses and residents in Santa Fe.

"Fiber is the future of the internet," says Alisha Catanach, who works 
in marketing and sales for NMSurf. On Monday, the local company 
announced that they have completed installation of a cable that runs 
from the intersection of Fourth Street and Cerrillos Road down Cerrillos 
to Siler Road, then to Agua Fr?a Street. The cable will make fiber 
broadband access available to over 350 businesses.

Two recently built upscale residential developments, Casas de San Juan 
and Los Caminitos, both located north of Santa Fe, are the only 
residential neighborhoods in Santa Fe where connection through fiber 
optic networks available to all homeowners. Cyber Mesa, the local 
company that installed the networks, says that they are the first of 
their kind in the city.

Tom Simon of Westgate properties says that copper phone lines, which are 
the traditional method for connecting residences to the internet, are 
limited in capacity for speed, downloads and uploads. Fiber optic cables 
eliminate these restrictions.

Simon tells SFR the fiber optic cables were relatively easy to install 
for the neighborhoods because the developers had already approved the 
installation of new natural gas lines, and they were able to 
simultaneously lay down fiber optic cables along the same lines. He says 
that fiber optic access raises property values and is attractive to new 
homeowners.

Some businesses in Santa Fe also have access to fiber optic networks in 
the downtown Railyard district, where Cyber Mesa installed a 2-mile 
section of fiber optic cable to improve the speed, price and 
availability of internet access in the area. The city awarded the 
company $1 million to complete the project in 2015.

Local access to fiber optic cable connection is about to expand even 
further. In July, NMSurf will begin phase two of the fiber cable 
installation project on Cerrillos, extending the cable to the 
intersection with Airport Road. The company estimates that installing 
the extension will take about two months and will make fiber available 
to at least 500 additional businesses.

This is exciting news for businesses in Santa Fe, where internet has 
been notoriously unreliable in the past. In 2015, news outlets reported 
that service in the city was half the speed available in Albuquerque and 
other surrounding communities, though costs to customers were the same. 
But with local businesses like Cyber Mesa and NMSurf vying with national 
providers to take the lead on fiber, cutting-edge technologies are 
becoming more and more accessible.

"For years, progress stalled due to monopoly over services," says Jane 
Hill of Cyber Mesa. "That's just not the case anymore, which is a good 
thing for Santa Fe."


---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From doug.orr at gmail.com  Sat Apr  6 16:26:10 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 17:26:10 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] 5g: government troubles
Message-ID: <CAE7P4RsiJhwaSCEJ18ouF82Sx=LVVLgWGviqMAPkPNGuJ5LJjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry for the cross-post, but this report from dod is very informative and
interesting.

Our security problems are not limited to backdoors and "falling behind" on
network access speeds, but also becoming a commercially inviable backwater
at the hands of the greater world market...

My kingdom for some clear sub-six frequencies...

  Doug
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From jeff at mountainconnect.org  Sat Apr  6 17:37:03 2019
From: jeff at mountainconnect.org (Jeff)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 00:37:03 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] 5g: government troubles
In-Reply-To: <CAE7P4RsiJhwaSCEJ18ouF82Sx=LVVLgWGviqMAPkPNGuJ5LJjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE7P4RsiJhwaSCEJ18ouF82Sx=LVVLgWGviqMAPkPNGuJ5LJjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0116CBF6-81DC-488D-A277-5A6A777ED385@mountainconnect.org>

I have not read this particular article report yet but I assume the US commercial 5G approach also is a cause for concern for Autonomous Vehicles when crossing international boarders.

Jeffrey Gavlinski
CEO, Mountain Connect
mountainconnect.org
970 382-1799

From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, April 6, 2019 at 5:27 PM
To: 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>, "tech-discuss at newmexico.com" <tech-discuss at newmexico.com>
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] 5g: government troubles

Sorry for the cross-post, but this report from dod is very informative and interesting.

Our security problems are not limited to backdoors and "falling behind" on network access speeds, but also becoming a commercially inviable backwater at the hands of the greater world market...

My kingdom for some clear sub-six frequencies...

  Doug

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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Sun Apr  7 04:40:06 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 05:40:06 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] 5g: government troubles
In-Reply-To: <0116CBF6-81DC-488D-A277-5A6A777ED385@mountainconnect.org>
References: <CAE7P4RsiJhwaSCEJ18ouF82Sx=LVVLgWGviqMAPkPNGuJ5LJjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<0116CBF6-81DC-488D-A277-5A6A777ED385@mountainconnect.org>
Message-ID: <CAE7P4RsaHBn8b0U5i8fY7q4_tG_uOMH=uCz47awU+rnSbMRCgA@mail.gmail.com>

-1st-mile to BCC

The issue the report highlights is that the rest of the world is planning
on using frequencies we currently reserve for "government" (which I assume
mostly means military). We would have to do some fabulously expensive
retooling to get clear of the sub-6 frequencies to free them up for 5g.

So, Humvees crossing borders would be more the issue.

Imo, it's unlikely that 5g super fast speeds will have that much of a part
to play in autonomous vehicles (they need to be... autonomous), because of
jamming and reliability issues, plus needing pervasive, fabulously
expensive antenna deployment required (and I know others here differ :).
But worst case scenario, I suspect there could probably be some kind of
accommodation if they need to behave differently in different parts of the
world.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 6:37 PM Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org> wrote:

> I have not read this particular article report yet but I assume the US
> commercial 5G approach also is a cause for concern for Autonomous Vehicles
> when crossing international boarders.
>
>
>
> Jeffrey Gavlinski
>
> CEO, Mountain Connect
>
> mountainconnect.org
>
> 970 382-1799
>
>
>
> *From: *1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of
> Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Saturday, April 6, 2019 at 5:27 PM
> *To: *1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>, "
> tech-discuss at newmexico.com" <tech-discuss at newmexico.com>
> *Subject: *[1st-mile-nm] 5g: government troubles
>
>
>
> Sorry for the cross-post, but this report from dod is very informative and
> interesting.
>
>
>
> Our security problems are not limited to backdoors and "falling behind" on
> network access speeds, but also becoming a commercially inviable backwater
> at the hands of the greater world market...
>
>
>
> My kingdom for some clear sub-six frequencies...
>
>
>
>   Doug
>
>
>
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From CCoggins at SantaFeCF.org  Sun Apr  7 19:39:03 2019
From: CCoggins at SantaFeCF.org (Christa Coggins)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 02:39:03 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] please unsubscribe me
Message-ID: <BYAPR03MB44388EED3F6925DA88D133DFDA2C0@BYAPR03MB4438.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>


From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of Jeff
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 6:37 PM
To: Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com>; 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>; tech-discuss at newmexico.com
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] 5g: government troubles

I have not read this particular article report yet but I assume the US commercial 5G approach also is a cause for concern for Autonomous Vehicles when crossing international boarders.

Jeffrey Gavlinski
CEO, Mountain Connect
mountainconnect.org
970 382-1799

From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org>> on behalf of Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com<mailto:doug.orr at gmail.com>>
Date: Saturday, April 6, 2019 at 5:27 PM
To: 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>>, "tech-discuss at newmexico.com<mailto:tech-discuss at newmexico.com>" <tech-discuss at newmexico.com<mailto:tech-discuss at newmexico.com>>
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] 5g: government troubles

Sorry for the cross-post, but this report from dod is very informative and interesting.

Our security problems are not limited to backdoors and "falling behind" on network access speeds, but also becoming a commercially inviable backwater at the hands of the greater world market...

My kingdom for some clear sub-six frequencies...

  Doug

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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Apr  9 15:43:31 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 16:43:31 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: USDA Invests in Rural Electric Infrastructure
 and Smart Grid Improvements in 13 States
In-Reply-To: <CAF4-k2KTg4Jb-hexPJnVerNR8wSjZyTGskH7ugus1ZC8cz1Sdg@mail.gmail.com>
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PR attachment from KCEC.


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Subject: USDA Invests in Rural Electric Infrastructure and Smart Grid 
Improvements in 13 States
Date: 2019-04-08 15:00
 From: Kit Carson Public Relations <pr at kitcarson.com>
To: Public Relations <pr at kitcarson.com>

-- 

Michael Santisitevan

Public Relations Coordinator
Kit Carson Electric Cooperative
office 575.758.2258 cell 575.779.7888


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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu Apr 11 10:45:31 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:45:31 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: Digital Equity Act of 2019
In-Reply-To: <01174FFB-A41F-4594-AC09-2EBFC7B4D7D8@digitalinclusion.org>
References: <5ec2d05126634e14bdfd084741f0209d@A-ESS-SEN-EX12.senate.ussenate.us>
	<01174FFB-A41F-4594-AC09-2EBFC7B4D7D8@digitalinclusion.org>
Message-ID: <caccd7f70e30110306889b0f28fb2600@1st-mile.org>

Just released.
There will be lots of follow-on news postings about this.
RL


> Begin forwarded message:
> FROM: "Clements, Hart (Murray)" <Hart_Clements at murray.senate.gov>
> 
> SUBJECT: RE: SOCIAL MEDIA GUIDANCE: DIGITAL EQUITY ACT OF 2019
> 
> DATE: April 11, 2019 at 1:28:13 PM EDT
> 
> _UNITED STATES SENATE
> 
> For Immediate Release
> Thursday, April 11th, 2019
> Contact:
> Michael J. Brewer(Murray)
> 
> SENATOR MURRAY, SENATE DEMOCRATS INTRODUCE NEW LEGISLATION TO TACKLE
> NATIONWIDE DIGITAL EQUITY GAP_
> _ _
> _Led by Senator Murray, Senate Democrats introduced the _Digital
> Equity Act of 2019_to help close the digital divide impacting
> communities across the nation_
> _ _
> _The _Digital Equity Act_ builds on recent efforts to increase access
> to broadband by prioritizing ?digital inclusion??activities that
> seek to provide individuals and communities with the skills, supports,
> and technologies necessary to take full advantage of a broadband
> internet connection when they have one_
> _ _
> _Legislation creates two new $125M grant programs aimed at
> promoting#DigitalEquityNow [1] and supporting digital inclusion
> programs for students, families, and workers_
> _ _
> _Pew Research Center__: ?Nearly one-in-five teens can?t always
> finish their homework because of the digital divide? ? MORE HERE
> [2]_
> _ _
> _Learn more from Senator Murray?s new Medium Post: _?Why We Need
> the Digital Equity Act? ? LINK [3]
> _ _
> _ _
> WASHINGTON, D.C. ? Led by U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), the top
> Democrat on the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP)
> Committee, today a group of Senate Democrats introduced new
> legislation aimed at closing the growing digital divide in communities
> across the country. The _Digital Equity Act of 2019 [4]_ creates new
> federal investments targeted toward a diverse array of projects at the
> state and local level that promote ?digital equity?? a concept
> defined by the National Digital Inclusion Alliance as the ?condition
> in which all individuals and communities have the information
> technology capacity needed for full participation in our society,
> democracy and economy.? The legislation was cosponsored by Senators
> Mazie Hirono (D-HI), Angus King (I-ME), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Amy
> Klobuchar (D-MN), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Tina Smith (D-MN), Chris
> Van Hollen (D-MD), Gary Peters (D-MI), and Jack Reed (D-RI), and a
> companion bill will also be introduced in the House of
> Representatives.
> 
> _?FOR SO MANY OF US, HAVING A RELIABLE BROADBAND CONNECTION IS A
> GIVEN?WE USE THE INTERNET TO PAY BILLS, DO OUR TAXES, BOOK TRAVEL,
> DO HOMEWORK, AND MUCH MORE. WE CAN DO IT ON OUR OWN TIME, IN OUR OWN
> HOMES?EVEN FROM OUR PHONES. BUT FOR FAR TOO MANY INDIVIDUALS AND
> FAMILIES?INCLUDING THOSE FROM COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, PEOPLE WITH
> DISABILITIES, LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, AND RURAL COMMUNITIES?GETTING
> ONLINE ISN?T SO EASY TO DO, AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT IN 2019, WE
> SHOULDN?T BE A COUNTRY OF HAVES AND HAVE-NOTS WHEN IT COMES TO USING
> THE INTERNET,? __said__ __Senator Murray.__ ?THAT?S WHY I?M
> PROUD TO JOIN WITH MY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES TO INTRODUCE THE __DIGITAL
> EQUITY ACT__, WHICH WILL DIRECT SIGNIFICANT NEW FEDERAL INVESTMENTS TO
> HELP ENSURE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE THE TOOLS, SUPPORT, AND
> TECHNOLOGIES NECESSARY TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF A BROADBAND
> CONNECTION WHEN THEY HAVE ACCESS TO ONE. CONGRESS CAN AND SHOULD HELP
> STATES, COUNTIES, TRIBES, AND OTHERS DO MORE TO CLOSE THE GROWING
> DIGITAL DIVIDE, AND THE __DIGITAL EQUITY ACT__ IS A MAJOR STEP IN THE
> RIGHT DIRECTION. IT?S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR FAMILIES, AND IT?S
> THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR OUR ECONOMY TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS
> REACHING THEIR FULL POTENTIAL.?_
> 
> _?THE INTERNET IMPACTS EVERY ASPECT OF OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES, FROM
> CONDUCTING BUSINESS TO PURSUING AN EDUCATION TO CONNECTING WITH
> FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES. PUT SIMPLY: IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TOOL FOR
> ANYONE TRYING TO PARTICIPATE IN 21ST CENTURY LIFE,?_ said Senator
> King. _?AND IT?S NOT ENOUGH TO SIMPLY HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET;
> YOU ALSO NEED TO KNOW HOW TO USE IT. BY MAKING THESE INVESTMENTS IN
> DIGITAL EQUITY AND DIGITAL INCLUSION, WE CAN ENSURE AMERICANS OF ALL
> AGES AND BACKGROUNDS ARE FLUENT IN THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL DRIVE SO
> MUCH OF OUR NATION?S FUTURE.?_
> 
> _?THE INTERNET IS A POWERFUL TOOL THAT HAS BECOME INSTRUMENTAL IN
> ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL MOBILITY AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT. IN 2009, HAWAII
> CAPITALIZED ON FUNDS MADE AVAILABLE UNDER THE AMERICAN RECOVERY AND
> REINVESTMENT ACT TO EXPAND BROADBAND TO SCHOOLS AND PUBLIC COMPUTER
> CENTERS, MAKING IT ONE OF THE MOST-CONNECTED STATES IN THE COUNTRY.
> BUT PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONLY PART OF THE EQUATION,?_ said
> Senator Hirono. _?THE _DIGITAL EQUITY ACT_ WILL PROVIDE GRANTS FOR
> THINGS LIKE DIGITAL LITERACY AND DIGITAL SKILLS EDUCATION TO
> LOW-INCOME POPULATIONS AND IMPROVING THE ONLINE ACCESSIBILITY OF
> SOCIAL SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES THAT WILL ALLOW THE
> PEOPLE OF HAWAII TO MAKE FULL USE OF WHAT BROADBAND HAS TO OFFER. ONLY
> THEN CAN THEY FULLY PARTICIPATE IN OUR SOCIETY, DEMOCRACY, AND
> ECONOMY.?_
> 
> _?MORE AND MORE, WE RELY ON THE INTERNET TO HELP US PARTICIPATE IN
> OUR DEMOCRACY AND TAKE PART IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. EXPANDING ACCESS TO
> THE DIGITAL WORLD WILL HELP COMBAT INEQUALITY, INCREASE TRANSPARENCY
> IN OUR INSTITUTIONS, AND HELP CITIZENS HOLD THEIR GOVERNMENT
> ACCOUNTABLE. THAT?S WHY I?M PLEASED TO SUPPORT THE DIGITAL EQUITY
> ACT,?_ said Senator Whitehouse.
> _ _
> _?AS WE RELY MORE ON TECHNOLOGY IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES, WE HAVE TO
> MAKE SURE THAT EVERY FAMILY HAS ACCESS TO BROADBAND, REGARDLESS OF
> THEIR ZIP CODE. THIS LEGISLATION WILL HELP CLOSE THE DIGITAL DIVIDE
> AND BRING HIGH-SPEED INTERNET TO COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTY,?_
> said Senator Klobuchar.
> 
> _?ACCESS TO BROADBAND INTERNET SERVICE IS LITERALLY TRANSFORMATIVE.
> WITH BROADBAND, STUDENTS CAN ACCESS VAST EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES,
> FAMILIES REMAIN CONNECTED, CITIZENS ENGAGE THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, AND
> BUSINESSES REACH NEW CUSTOMERS,?_ said Senator Blumenthal. _?FOR
> FAR TOO LONG, THE DIGITAL DIVIDE HAS LEFT BEHIND THOSE OVERLOOKED AND
> UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD BENEFIT MOST FROM BROADBAND. OUR
> BILL WOULD INVEST MUCH-NEEDED RESOURCES IN OUR BROADBAND
> INFRASTRUCTURE ? SPURRING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, AND HELPING TO
> LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL AMERICANS.?_
> 
> _?BROADBAND IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE 21ST CENTURY?IT ISN?T
> JUST NICE, IT?S NECESSARY IF WE?RE GOING TO BUILD AN ECONOMY THAT
> WORKS FOR EVERYONE,? _said Senator Smith. _?THIS BILL REPRESENTS A
> POSITIVE STEP FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION, ENSURING THAT TRADITIONALLY
> OVERLOOKED COMMUNITIES ARE NOT LEFT BEHIND IN OUR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE
> AFFORDABLE AND RELIABLE INTERNET SERVICE TO ALL MINNESOTANS AND OTHER
> AMERICANS.?_
> _ _
> _?FROM STUDENTS COMPLETING HOMEWORK TO PEOPLE OF ALL AGES APPLYING
> ONLINE FOR JOBS, BROADBAND INTERNET PLAYS A CRUCIAL ROLE IN A
> COMMUNITY?S GROWTH AND ECONOMY. EXPANDING ACCESS TO BROADBAND WILL
> HELP CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR MARYLANDERS, AND WILL MOVE OUR STATE
> FORWARD ON CLOSING THE DIGITAL DIVIDE. I?M PROUD TO JOIN MY
> COLLEAGUES IN INTRODUCING THIS COMMON-SENSE LEGISLATION, AND I WILL
> CONTINUE WORKING TO EXPAND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL,? _said
> Senator Van Hollen.__
> 
> According to the Pew Research Center [2], nearly one in five teenagers
> in the U.S. say they have been unable to complete homework assignments
> due to lack of a reliable internet connection. The digital divide,
> also sometimes referred to as the ?homework gap? as it applies to
> students, exacerbates existing wealth and income gaps in our
> communities; subsequently, many people?including those from
> communities of color, people with disabilities, low-income households,
> and rural communities, overwhelmingly impacted by the digital skills
> gap?are at risk of being left behind in an increasingly
> technology-driven world, absent intervention. To that end, the
> _Digital Equity Act of 2019_ strengthens federal support for efforts
> to help ensure students, families, and workers have the information
> technology capacity needed to fully participate in society by creating
> an annual $125 million formula grant program for all 50 States, the
> District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico to fund the creation and
> implementation of comprehensive digital equity plans in each State, as
> well as an additional annual $125 million competitive grant program to
> support digital equity projects undertaken by individual groups,
> coalitions, or communities of interest. Finally, the legislation tasks
> the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA)
> with evaluating digital equity projects and providing policymakers at
> the local, state, and federal levels with detailed information about
> which projects are most effective.
> _ _
> _?I BELIEVE THE FUTURE BELONGS TO THE CONNECTED. NO MATTER WHO YOU
> ARE OR WHERE YOU LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU NEED ACCESS TO MODERN
> COMMUNICATIONS TO HAVE A FAIR SHOT AT 21ST CENTURY SUCCESS. BUT TODAY
> MILLIONS OF AMERICAN LACK THE BROADBAND ACCESS THAT THEY NEED TO
> MEANINGFULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE DIGITAL AGE. THAT MEANS TOO MANY
> STUDENTS FALL INTO THE HOMEWORK GAP, UNABLE TO COMPLETE SCHOOL
> ASSIGNMENTS THAT REQUIRE HIGH-SPEED INTERNET SERVICE. IT MEANS THAT
> TOO MANY SMALL BUSINESSES WILL NOT HAVE THE WORK FORCE WITH THE SKILLS
> NECESSARY TO COMPETE IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. IT MEANS THAT TOO MANY
> COMMUNITIES WILL GO WITHOUT THE CIVIC AND COMMERCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE
> THAT IS NEEDED TO THRIVE AND GROW. SO THANK YOU TO SENATOR MURRAY FOR
> THIS LEGISLATION WHICH THOUGHTFULLY ADDRESSES DIGITAL EQUITY AND SEEKS
> TO EXPAND TECHNOLOGY OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL,?__ said Federal
> Communications Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel. _
> _ _
> _?LOCAL AND STATE LEADERSHIP DRIVE MOST EFFORTS TO BRING PEOPLE
> ONLINE WITH AFFORDABLE INTERNET ACCESS AND TRAINING.  ON THE ONE HAND,
> THIS IS FABULOUS BECAUSE TRUSTED COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS ARE ESSENTIAL
> TO EFFECTIVE DIGITAL INCLUSION WORK. ON THE OTHER HAND, FINANCIAL
> SUPPORT OF LOCAL DIGITAL INCLUSION WORK IS SORELY LACKING. THE DIGITAL
> EQUITY ACT RECOGNIZES THE VALUE OF LOCAL TRUSTED INSTITUTIONS WHILE
> ALLOCATING FINANCIAL SUPPORT. NDIA AND OUR 350 AFFILIATES IN 41 STATES
> FULLY SUPPORT THE DIGITAL EQUITY ACT AND LOOK FORWARD TO ITS
> PASSAGE,?__ said National Digital Inclusion Alliance Executive
> Director Angela Siefer. _
> 
> The _Digital Equity Act of 2019_ is endorsed by: Alliance for
> Community Media, American Library Association, Asian Americans
> Advancing Justice, Association of Public and Land-grant Universities,
> Broadband Connects America, Center for Law and Social Policy, Center
> for Media Justice, Chief Officers of State Library Agencies, Coalition
> on Adult Basic Education, Common Cause, Consortium for School
> Networking, Competitive Carriers Association, Free Press Action Fund,
> International Society for Technology in Education, National
> Association of Telecommunications Officers and Advisors, National
> Coalition for Literacy, National Collaborative for Digital Equity,
> National Congress of American Indians, National Consumer Law Center on
> behalf of their low-income clients, National Digital Inclusion
> Alliance, National Hispanic Media Coalition, National League of
> Cities, National Parent Teacher Association, New America's Open
> Technology Institute, Next Century Cities, NTEN, Public Knowledge,
> Schools, Health & Libraries Broadband Coalition, State Educational
> Technology Directors Association, and the Urban Libraries Council.
> 
> READ THE BILL TEXT HERE [4].
> 
> FIND MORE BACKGROUND ON THE _DIGITAL EQUITY ACT_ HERE [5].
> 
> FIND A SECTION-BY-SECTION BREAKDOWN OF THE _DIGITAL EQUITY ACT_ HERE
> [6].
> 
> ###


Links:
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[1] https://twitter.com/PattyMurray/status/1116385656652095488
[2] 
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/26/nearly-one-in-five-teens-cant-always-finish-their-homework-because-of-the-digital-divide/
[3] 
https://medium.com/@PattyMurray/why-we-need-the-digital-equity-act-bce13eed8345
[4] 
https://www.murray.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/90396474-445b-427f-bc4d-547031680f1f/ehf19276.pdf
[5] 
https://www.murray.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/66a6378c-3c13-48d4-8e9d-a44c7460ec99/041019-digital-equity-act-one-pager-final.pdf
[6] 
https://www.murray.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/fbdd7683-bf18-4454-82c8-33a83145c1b1/041019-digital-equity-act-section-by-section-final.pdf


---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From dlc at lampinc.com  Sun Apr 21 20:11:14 2019
From: dlc at lampinc.com (Dale Carstensen)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 20:11:14 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] 26 states have barriers to municipal broadband
Message-ID: <20190422025604.39DF24C4@lacn.los-alamos.net>

And many of them have barriers to any broadband except telco/cable
incumbents.  Here's a link to Hacker News that refers to
motherboard.vice.com which refers to broadbandnow.com:

 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19702803




From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Apr 24 08:11:24 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 09:11:24 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] USDA RUS Funding
Message-ID: <e5741117084bb417b4d14b1d0302907c@1st-mile.org>

USDA RUS  announces application window for rural e-Connectivity 
(ReConnect) pilot program, opened April 23.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2019-04-23/pdf/2019-08176.pdf




---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu Apr 25 11:41:32 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 12:41:32 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: Mountain Connect Speakers Announced Today
In-Reply-To: <1132549026488.1130244659368.2133014816.0.451300JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com>
References: <1132549026488.1130244659368.2133014816.0.451300JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com>
Message-ID: <7f17a210f6fcb178db3bc556dd23fff4@1st-mile.org>

This year's Mountain Connect Conference is shaping up to be very
informative, with some important presenters.   The program organizers
are always wanting greater New Mexico participation, and I have a
conflicting event on the June dates every year.   I'm pleased to see
Chris Hyer, Economic Development Manager for Santa Fe County, just
announced as a presenter.   Additionally, hearing from Tonya Rideout, 
Executive Director and CFO of NATOA should be most informative.
Be in touch with Mountain Connect, and sign up if you can attend or
be a sponsor.
All networked best,
R.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Mountain Connect Speakers Announced Today
Date: 2019-04-25 11:03
 From: Mountain Connect <info at mountainconnect.org>
Reply-To: info at mountainconnect.org

More Great Speakers for Mountain Connect 2019 Announced

We're announcing more great speakers for our conference lineup as we
continue to develop an agenda with most current, topical sessions of
interest to you.

Speakers for the June conference will include Chris Hyer, Economic
Development Manager for Santa Fe County, New Mexico. Additionally, Tonya
Rideout, Executive Director and CFO of NATOA will moderate a session
entitled "What You Need to Know About The Operation and Regulation of
Drones" featuring Brandon Dittman who is an Associate Attorney at the
Denver Law firm of Kissinger & Fellman P.C.

  We'll be adding names to the speakers [1] section of our website as we
continue to select sessions. As a reminder, Mountain Connect 2019 will
feature four speaking tracks around the theme of "How tomorrow?s
technologies shape today?s infrastructure."

  	* Community Development
  	* Emerging Technologies
  	* Public Safety
  	* Wireless

Register Today!
Don't forget to register for this year's one-of-a-kind event.

Keystone Resort & Conference Center
Dillon, Colorado
June 24-26, 2019

Register Now!

?Welcome Sponsors and Exhibitors!

We're happy to announce some of our sponsors for this year's Mountain
Connect. A very special "Thank You" to Mammoth Networks who will host
and sponsor the Exhibitor Reception, 910 Telecom who is sponsoring the
"Meet Me? Room, and WAV Wireless Outfitters, a Platinum sponsor.

Our exhibitor space is quickly filling up, especially the "deluxe
booths." If you want to exhibit, don't delay and sign up today!

Visit us online to see who has already signed up to exhibit and
secure your own sponsorship opportunity!

Bring Your Clubs to Mountain Connect 2019!

Join us for our annual Dale Hatfield Open, to be held this year at the
Keystone Ranch Golf Club on Monday, June 24.

Proceeds from this great pre-conference event support the Dale Hatfield
Scholars Program at Silicon Flatirons Center for Law, Technology, and
Entrepreneurship at the University of Colorado. We are excited to
partner and support the Silicon Flatirons mission and immeasurable
contribution to our local and national community.

Register for the Golf Outing

Mountain Connect | info at mountainconnect.org | www.mountainconnect.org

Mountain Connect | 2058 Mockingbird Valley Court, Durango, CO 81301


---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From jeff at mountainconnect.org  Sat Apr 27 12:35:00 2019
From: jeff at mountainconnect.org (Jeff)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 19:35:00 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: Mountain Connect Speakers Announced Today
In-Reply-To: <7f17a210f6fcb178db3bc556dd23fff4@1st-mile.org>
References: <1132549026488.1130244659368.2133014816.0.451300JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com>
	<7f17a210f6fcb178db3bc556dd23fff4@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <7E5CCD97-7805-453A-8EE8-15C8878CA310@mountainconnect.org>

Thank you Richard!

Jeffrey Gavlinski
CEO, Mountain Connect
mountainconnect.org
970 382-1799

?On 4/25/19, 12:42 PM, "1st-mile-nm on behalf of Richard Lowenberg" <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org on behalf of rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:

    This year's Mountain Connect Conference is shaping up to be very
    informative, with some important presenters.   The program organizers
    are always wanting greater New Mexico participation, and I have a
    conflicting event on the June dates every year.   I'm pleased to see
    Chris Hyer, Economic Development Manager for Santa Fe County, just
    announced as a presenter.   Additionally, hearing from Tonya Rideout, 
    Executive Director and CFO of NATOA should be most informative.
    Be in touch with Mountain Connect, and sign up if you can attend or
    be a sponsor.
    All networked best,
    R.
    
    
    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Mountain Connect Speakers Announced Today
    Date: 2019-04-25 11:03
     From: Mountain Connect <info at mountainconnect.org>
    Reply-To: info at mountainconnect.org
    
    More Great Speakers for Mountain Connect 2019 Announced
    
    We're announcing more great speakers for our conference lineup as we
    continue to develop an agenda with most current, topical sessions of
    interest to you.
    
    Speakers for the June conference will include Chris Hyer, Economic
    Development Manager for Santa Fe County, New Mexico. Additionally, Tonya
    Rideout, Executive Director and CFO of NATOA will moderate a session
    entitled "What You Need to Know About The Operation and Regulation of
    Drones" featuring Brandon Dittman who is an Associate Attorney at the
    Denver Law firm of Kissinger & Fellman P.C.
    
      We'll be adding names to the speakers [1] section of our website as we
    continue to select sessions. As a reminder, Mountain Connect 2019 will
    feature four speaking tracks around the theme of "How tomorrow?s
    technologies shape today?s infrastructure."
    
      	* Community Development
      	* Emerging Technologies
      	* Public Safety
      	* Wireless
    
    Register Today!
    Don't forget to register for this year's one-of-a-kind event.
    
    Keystone Resort & Conference Center
    Dillon, Colorado
    June 24-26, 2019
    
    Register Now!
    
    Welcome Sponsors and Exhibitors!
    
    We're happy to announce some of our sponsors for this year's Mountain
    Connect. A very special "Thank You" to Mammoth Networks who will host
    and sponsor the Exhibitor Reception, 910 Telecom who is sponsoring the
    "Meet Me? Room, and WAV Wireless Outfitters, a Platinum sponsor.
    
    Our exhibitor space is quickly filling up, especially the "deluxe
    booths." If you want to exhibit, don't delay and sign up today!
    
    Visit us online to see who has already signed up to exhibit and
    secure your own sponsorship opportunity!
    
    Bring Your Clubs to Mountain Connect 2019!
    
    Join us for our annual Dale Hatfield Open, to be held this year at the
    Keystone Ranch Golf Club on Monday, June 24.
    
    Proceeds from this great pre-conference event support the Dale Hatfield
    Scholars Program at Silicon Flatirons Center for Law, Technology, and
    Entrepreneurship at the University of Colorado. We are excited to
    partner and support the Silicon Flatirons mission and immeasurable
    contribution to our local and national community.
    
    Register for the Golf Outing
    
    Mountain Connect | info at mountainconnect.org | www.mountainconnect.org
    
    Mountain Connect | 2058 Mockingbird Valley Court, Durango, CO 81301
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
    1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
    Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
    rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Apr 29 13:22:33 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:22:33 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: [NDIA Listserv] Digital Inclusion Start Up
 Manual PDF Now Available!
In-Reply-To: <CABmEtRQ2i5ESj4SFc-WxiGHd0GqP2kPx8BqOxMn+8SaOL3towg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABmEtRQ2i5ESj4SFc-WxiGHd0GqP2kPx8BqOxMn+8SaOL3towg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <59b8edfaf29b18ebeef780ce6dd8a4d0@1st-mile.org>

A good resource publication for community .orgs that are working
to bridge digital divides and to foster networked opportunities.
RL


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [NDIA Listserv] Update: Start Up Manual PDF Now Available!
Date: 2019-04-29 08:39
 From: Caitlin Schwartz <caitlin at digitalinclusion.org>

The web version [1] of the Digital Inclusion Start-Up Manual was 
published
this month and now the PDF version [2] is ready!

Caitlin Schwartz
Operations Manager
National Digital Inclusion Alliance [3]
caitlin at digitalinclusion.org


Links:
------
[1] https://www.startup.digitalinclusion.org/
[2] 
https://www.startup.digitalinclusion.org/pdfs/NDIA%20Digital%20Inclusion%20Startup%20Manual.pdf
[3] http://digitalinclusion.org/



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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Apr 29 22:45:21 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 23:45:21 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Announcement
Message-ID: <f03d28f63bda88f7fe50d41e786169a2@1st-mile.org>

More smoke and mirrors from the FCC.
By 2028 1,703 additional homes and businesses in NM will be upgraded to
25/3 Mbps service with this support?
Which providers in NM received how much funding?
RL

---------

OVER 106,000 RURAL HOMES AND BUSINESSES TO GET BETTER, FASTER BROADBAND

Because of FCC Reforms, Higher-Speed Broadband Will Reach New Homes and 
Businesses in 43 States

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-357211A1.pdf

WASHINGTON, April 29, 2019?Over 106,000 rural homes and small businesses 
in 43 states will get access to improved broadband service due to recent 
FCC reforms to the Universal Service Fund.

?Today?s announcement means that many more rural Americans will have 
access to high-speed broadband service that will enable them to fully 
participate in the digital economy? entrepreneurship, telemedicine, 
precision agriculture, online education, and more,? said FCC Chairman 
Ajit Pai. ?This is yet another example of how the FCC is working hard to 
close the digital divide.?

Pursuant to new rules adopted by the Commission last December, a total 
of 186 companies participating in the FCC?s Alternative Connect America 
Cost Model (A-CAM) program have accepted $65.7 million in additional 
annual support over the next decade. In return, these carriers have 
committed to deploying 25/3 Mbps service to 106,365 homes and small 
businesses that would have otherwise only received slower 10/1 Mbps 
service.

The boost represents a 31.8% increase in the number of locations that 
will have faster service available through the A-CAM program. Carriers 
must deploy 25/3 Mbps service to 40% of locations by end of the 2022, 
and increase deployment by 10% annually until buildout is complete at 
the end of 2028.

The chart below details the impact of the additional funding by state:

(snip)

State   Previous 25/3	New 25/3 Mbps	Difference	Difference %
         Mbps Obligation Obligation 	(number of
					households/businesses)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
NM 	1,384 		3,087 		1,703 		123.0%




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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From jeff at mountainconnect.org  Tue Apr 30 08:00:50 2019
From: jeff at mountainconnect.org (Jeff)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:00:50 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Announcement
In-Reply-To: <f03d28f63bda88f7fe50d41e786169a2@1st-mile.org>
References: <f03d28f63bda88f7fe50d41e786169a2@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <BF97A170-864F-468A-967E-6801C5561657@mountainconnect.org>

In my opinion, a better question is a 25/3 Mbps connection by 2028 really progress?  Technology innovation will not wait for broadband to catch-up and we may find that it could accelerate urbanization.  Take, for example, cloud-based gaming: if what has been suggested in terms of network impact is actually accurate, then a home receiving a 25/3 Mbps internet connection would not be able to utilize this platform.  The broadband definition does not serve the future and technology unknowns. 


Jeffrey Gavlinski
CEO, Mountain Connect
mountainconnect.org
970 382-1799

?On 4/29/19, 11:46 PM, "1st-mile-nm on behalf of Richard Lowenberg" <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org on behalf of rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:

    More smoke and mirrors from the FCC.
    By 2028 1,703 additional homes and businesses in NM will be upgraded to
    25/3 Mbps service with this support?
    Which providers in NM received how much funding?
    RL
    
    ---------
    
    OVER 106,000 RURAL HOMES AND BUSINESSES TO GET BETTER, FASTER BROADBAND
    
    Because of FCC Reforms, Higher-Speed Broadband Will Reach New Homes and 
    Businesses in 43 States
    
    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-357211A1.pdf
    
    WASHINGTON, April 29, 2019?Over 106,000 rural homes and small businesses 
    in 43 states will get access to improved broadband service due to recent 
    FCC reforms to the Universal Service Fund.
    
    ?Today?s announcement means that many more rural Americans will have 
    access to high-speed broadband service that will enable them to fully 
    participate in the digital economy? entrepreneurship, telemedicine, 
    precision agriculture, online education, and more,? said FCC Chairman 
    Ajit Pai. ?This is yet another example of how the FCC is working hard to 
    close the digital divide.?
    
    Pursuant to new rules adopted by the Commission last December, a total 
    of 186 companies participating in the FCC?s Alternative Connect America 
    Cost Model (A-CAM) program have accepted $65.7 million in additional 
    annual support over the next decade. In return, these carriers have 
    committed to deploying 25/3 Mbps service to 106,365 homes and small 
    businesses that would have otherwise only received slower 10/1 Mbps 
    service.
    
    The boost represents a 31.8% increase in the number of locations that 
    will have faster service available through the A-CAM program. Carriers 
    must deploy 25/3 Mbps service to 40% of locations by end of the 2022, 
    and increase deployment by 10% annually until buildout is complete at 
    the end of 2028.
    
    The chart below details the impact of the additional funding by state:
    
    (snip)
    
    State   Previous 25/3	New 25/3 Mbps	Difference	Difference %
             Mbps Obligation Obligation 	(number of
    					households/businesses)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    NM 	1,384 		3,087 		1,703 		123.0%
    
    
    
    
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    1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
    Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
    rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Apr 30 11:26:15 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 12:26:15 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Announcement - NM Details
In-Reply-To: <CAOn4WVzdpF49QCtCC41pNhbdZnaFL0fLjZynDhhJWv8tVD6=4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f03d28f63bda88f7fe50d41e786169a2@1st-mile.org>
	<CAOn4WVzdpF49QCtCC41pNhbdZnaFL0fLjZynDhhJWv8tVD6=4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0b70611e49e5eb9b561c3261e4dd3a22@1st-mile.org>

On 2019-04-30 07:49, Mimbres Communications wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:47 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> By 2028 1,703 additional homes and businesses in NM will be upgraded
>> to 25/3 Mbps service with this support?
>> Which providers in NM received how much funding?
> 


> https://www.fcc.gov/file/14390/download has a list by provider and
> county.
> 
> https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/caf-2-accepted-map/ maps the
> accepted locations.


Here's the New Mexico State Summary from the above site:
PC Carrier		Eligible Locations	Support Amount
CenturyLink		     25,308	        $10,942,748
Frontier Communications	      7,032	        $ 4,426,327
Windstream Communications     8,720	        $ 3,883,590
Total		             41,060	        $19,252,665



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From JBadal at sacred-wind.com  Wed May  1 10:03:08 2019
From: JBadal at sacred-wind.com (John Badal)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 17:03:08 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Announcement - NM Details
In-Reply-To: <0b70611e49e5eb9b561c3261e4dd3a22@1st-mile.org>
References: <f03d28f63bda88f7fe50d41e786169a2@1st-mile.org>
	<CAOn4WVzdpF49QCtCC41pNhbdZnaFL0fLjZynDhhJWv8tVD6=4Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<0b70611e49e5eb9b561c3261e4dd3a22@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <CY4PR03MB314106379B2EE0D653E123318E3B0@CY4PR03MB3141.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Richard,

I don't believe your question was answered.  To be clear, the annual dollar amounts and recipients of the FCC's CAF Phase II support for NM listed below are what the FCC offered to the 3 price cap carriers 2-3 years ago for broadband expansion.  The total support was for 6 years (6 X the annual support listed.)  One of those price cap carriers rejected the support and many of its census blocks in high cost areas in NM were put up for auction under the FCC's CAF Phase II reverse auction program, as were a large number of higher costing census blocks in the other two price cap carriers' service territories.  

Just in northwest NM five other telecom carriers won the right to provide broadband in those auctioned census blocks.  The total amount of support received by the winners in the auction is less than half of what was offered the price cap carriers.  How's that possible?  Simply, using newer fixed wireless technologies, along with the initial capital investment in the infrastructure supported by the CAF program, it's actually cheaper to overbuild a fixed wireless system in many rural areas than it would cost the incumbent to upgrade a landline system.  

One last word about the benefits derived the unserved and underserved customers in those higher costing census blocks.  Most of the winning companies  designed their bids to provide 25Mbps download speeds, but, using newer technologies, those systems can be scaled up to much higher speeds when needed.  

John

-----Original Message-----
From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of Richard Lowenberg
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 12:26 PM
To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Announcement - NM Details

On 2019-04-30 07:49, Mimbres Communications wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:47 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> By 2028 1,703 additional homes and businesses in NM will be upgraded 
>> to 25/3 Mbps service with this support?
>> Which providers in NM received how much funding?
> 


> https://www.fcc.gov/file/14390/download has a list by provider and 
> county.
> 
> https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/caf-2-accepted-map/ maps the 
> accepted locations.


Here's the New Mexico State Summary from the above site:
PC Carrier		Eligible Locations	Support Amount
CenturyLink		     25,308	        $10,942,748
Frontier Communications	      7,032	        $ 4,426,327
Windstream Communications     8,720	        $ 3,883,590
Total		             41,060	        $19,252,665



---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu May  2 08:24:31 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2019 09:24:31 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Report on Broadband Deployment in Indian Country
Message-ID: <0e36ea24b9058ae131e2fd728c997ab8@1st-mile.org>

FCC Report on Broadband Deployment in Indian Country

https://www.fcc.gov/document/report-broadband-deployment-indian-country




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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From tom at jtjohnson.com  Sun May  5 00:06:15 2019
From: tom at jtjohnson.com (Tom Johnson)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 08:06:15 +0100
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Portland Is Again Blazing Trails for Open Internet
	Access | WIRED
Message-ID: <CABg8s8KD16XaWR6tLnUXwqL4cx38siwKbDFcchN2dFwOAdqNRw@mail.gmail.com>

You probably know this, but....


https://www.wired.com/story/portland-again-blazing-trails-open-internet-access/
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From christopher at ilsr.org  Wed May  8 07:26:33 2019
From: christopher at ilsr.org (Christopher Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 09:26:33 -0500
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Portland Is Again Blazing Trails for Open
 Internet Access | WIRED
In-Reply-To: <CABg8s8KD16XaWR6tLnUXwqL4cx38siwKbDFcchN2dFwOAdqNRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABg8s8KD16XaWR6tLnUXwqL4cx38siwKbDFcchN2dFwOAdqNRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAe53ytmuk3=neS6-Oa5Kn7evM9Wh_+hoe7cYmWiOx-tiFp5Sw@mail.gmail.com>

I think it is important to set some facts straight that were either
confused or misstated in that article. Portland has been slowing down the
efforts for publicly owned networks in that area. The progress has been
made by local grassroots folks and county commissioners in Multnomah
County. Portland was embarrassed into putting a trivial amount into the
study that other cities in the county (far smaller than Portland) have
contributed to.

For a sense of the real dynamic there, the grassroots group is on Twitter -
https://twitter.com/PublicNetPDX?lang=en

Large cities have been largely unable to make decisions that haven't been
corrupted by the interests of the big cable and telephone companies or the
personal ambitions of city councilmembers and mayors. History should have
prepared us for that obvious eventuality, but it has been painful watching
each time for me.

Christopher Mitchell
Director, Community Broadband Networks
Institute for Local Self-Reliance

MuniNetworks.org <http://www.muninetworks.org/>
@communitynets
612-545-5185


On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:07 AM Tom Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote:

> You probably know this, but....
>
>
>
> https://www.wired.com/story/portland-again-blazing-trails-open-internet-access/
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed May  8 13:45:28 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 08 May 2019 14:45:28 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] The Smart Enough City
Message-ID: <21d9748d6b0f25e4cc316008fc663a2d@1st-mile.org>

A new book, of interest to some on this list:

The Smart Enough City
Putting Technology in its Place to Reclaim our Urban Future

By Ben Green

https://www.benzevgreen.com/the-smart-enough-city/

https://smartenoughcity.mitpress.mit.edu




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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed May 15 09:31:09 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 10:31:09 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Colorado Gov. Touts Increase in Rural Broadband Access
Message-ID: <f2d6d9f087e90f869a671e4c873e06b1@1st-mile.org>

Colorado Gov. Touts Increase in Rural Broadband Access

The state wants 100 percent of households to have access to high-speed 
Internet, and toward that end it will put $155 million toward rural 
broadband expansion projects during the next five years.

BY NEWS STAFF / MAY 14, 2019
https://www.govtech.com/network/Colorado-Gov-Touts-Increase-in-Rural-Broadband-Access.html

Leaders in Colorado have whittled down the rural Internet access gap to 
6 percentage points, according to the governor's office, with a goal of 
providing broadband Internet access to 92 percent of rural residents by 
June 2020.

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis? office announced Tuesday that rural coverage 
for high-speed broadband rose by 3 percent, a jump from 83 percent to 86 
percent from October 2018 to April 2019.

Gov. Polis said high-speed Internet is now a necessity for people to 
thrive.

  ?Affordable and reliable broadband is critical to educating our youth, 
providing quality health care and keeping our residents safe,? he said 
in a statement.

A report released in March by the Federal Communications Commission 
stated 92 percent of Americans have access to high-speed Internet. 
However, companies like Microsoft and Pew Research found the number of 
people with access did not correlate to the number of Americans using 
broadband. Microsoft found that about 49 percent of people in the U.S. 
used high-speed Internet at home, while the Pew Research study estimated 
65 percent.

The 3 percent increase in Colorado is due to completed expansion 
projects, which were primarily funded by the Department of Regulatory 
Agencies Broadband Fund grants and five years? worth of investments by 
the Department of Local Affairs Broadband Grant program, according to 
the release.

Going forward, Colorado Broadband Office Executive Director Anthony 
Neal-Graves said the state will be investing $115 million during the 
next five years to grow the short-term goal of 92 percent rural access 
to 100 percent. Neal-Graves? office coordinates and supports endeavors 
that will help the state provide universal broadband access.

?We are moving in the right direction to reach the June 2020 goal of 
providing 92 percent rural broadband access,? Neal-Graves said in a 
statement.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From tom at jtjohnson.com  Fri May 24 08:00:23 2019
From: tom at jtjohnson.com (Tom Johnson)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:00:23 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Idaho Gov. Signs Executive Order Forming Broadband
	Task Force
Message-ID: <CABg8s8+_syrFBnk228cG0OEy4+hSoDjbGrS1CcppikrQS3Dc2g@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.govtech.com/policy/Idaho-Governor-Signs-Executive-Order-Forming-Broadband-Task-Force.html
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Sun Jun  2 11:54:13 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2019 12:54:13 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: PSFA BDCP Annual Service Provider Meeting
In-Reply-To: <l8Yz8000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000PSE3ZQ000isSWwfcTSuwmoZjKNbfew@sfdc.net>
References: <l8Yz8000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000PSE3ZQ000isSWwfcTSuwmoZjKNbfew@sfdc.net>
Message-ID: <45663be63bf7f5be592914b82fe3279e@1st-mile.org>

For those interested in NM Public Schools networking initiatives.
RL

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: PSFA BDCP Annual Service Provider Meeting
Date: 2019-05-31 16:33
 From: Ruth Bingham <rbingham at nmpsfa.org>

Good afternoon,

We are pleased to invite you to a service provider meeting at the
Rotunda meeting room (UNM Science and Technology Park) on June 17, 2019
from 10:00am - 12:00pm.
We would like to share updates on the fiber projects throughout the
state and what we see coming up for the new E-rate cycle.
We will also discuss the RFP template and any changes that should be
considered.

AGENDA

  	* BDCP overview and status

  	* Current and upcoming work

  	* E-rate requirements

  	* School RFP process

  	* Milestones
  	* Review of RFP template

  	* Opportunities for improvement

  	* Next Steps

We look forward to meeting with you soon.  Please RSVP with Ruth Bingham
at rbingham at nmpsfa.org.

If you have received this e-mail in error, we apologize.  Please send a
note back to be removed from this list.

Thank you,

Ruth Bingham
BDCP Administrative Assistant
Public School Facilities Authority
1312 Basehart Rd. SE, Suite 200
Albuquerque, NM 87106
Office: 505-843-6272 ext. 1074
Direct: 505-468-0268
Email: rbingham at nmpsfa.org
Web: www.nmpsfa.org


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Jun  4 09:14:11 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:14:11 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] NTIA Federal BB Funding Guide
Message-ID: <19d10ff34e82b7872958299e376f93f6@1st-mile.org>

NTIA Releases Comprehensive Guide to Federal Broadband Funding

https://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2019/ntia-releases-comprehensive-guide-federal-broadband-funding

June 03, 2019

Today, NTIA is announcing a new searchable database of 50 federal 
broadband programs, spanning a dozen federal agencies with billions of 
dollars for broadband grants, loans and other resources. The database, 
created with help of participating federal agencies, fulfills a goal set 
out in the American Broadband Initiative announced in February to make 
it easier for community leaders to find federal funding and permitting 
information.




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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From tom at jtjohnson.com  Mon Jun 17 21:58:59 2019
From: tom at jtjohnson.com (Tom Johnson)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:58:59 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: Article on my work
In-Reply-To: <CA+x697MJ7SvZZAWU9Q=XGWUrx+PuP=JrE+6o+1QNEC-KNen9jw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+x697MJ7SvZZAWU9Q=XGWUrx+PuP=JrE+6o+1QNEC-KNen9jw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABg8s8LT5b6xX+7+dsokB9ir_tW2fWd-NcwPYStFrrWE3uJ76A@mail.gmail.com>

FYI

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 9:49 AM
Subject: Article on my work
To: Tom Johnson <jtjohnson555 at gmail.com>, Jim Baller <Jim at baller.com>, Jim
Brown <jwbrown at iupui.edu>, chris feola <christopherjfeola at gmail.com>,
Heather Gold <hbgold at hbgstrategies.com>, Cohen, Thomas <
TCohen at kelleydrye.com>, Kate Hughes <kateinasia at gmail.com>


https://senseaboutscienceusa.org/how-data-journalism-helped-power-a-rural-broadband-revolution/

This is up on my Facebook timeline if you want to comment. The link is to a
site sponsored by American Statistical Association, the world's largest
statistician group.

Tom Cohen, we long ago proved causality between lack of broadband access
and population loss.

Steve
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Jun 18 10:30:51 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:30:51 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Soft Launches Telecom Subsidy Eligibility
 Verifier in NM + More States
Message-ID: <41e3c0c9c2f6c4699b88fce9314dcf18@1st-mile.org>

FCC Soft Launches Telecom Subsidy Eligibility Verifier in More States

JOHN EGGERTON
https://www.multichannel.com/news/fcc-soft-launches-telecom-subsidy-eligibilty-verifier

Carriers have until Aug. 30 to wrap up any current certifications

In a further move in the FCC's effort to better target telecom and 
broadband funds and prevent waste, fraud and abuse, the Wireline 
Competition Bureau is "soft" launching its national Lifeline eligibility 
verifier in another 11 states on June 25: Arizona, Connecticut, Georgia, 
Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, Vermont, Virginia, and West 
Virginia.

The first soft-launch states were Colorado, Mississippi, Montana, New 
Mexico, Utah and Wyoming.

Eligible telecommunications carriers (ETCs) in those states who are 
eligible for the Lifeline subsidies will not be able to begin any 
subscriber re-certifications after June 25 and should wrap up any 
current certifications under the existing rules by Aug. 30. 
Certification consists of verifying that the subs it is serving with 
subsidies ($9.25 per month) qualify for the program, which is targeted 
at low-income residents and tied to qualifying for various other 
government subsidy programs?Medicaid, Food Stamps, etc.).

ETCs will be able to test the new verifier before the FCC mandates its 
use so their employees can be ready on day one.

During the "soft" launch, the Universal Service Administrative Company 
(USAC) will start re-certifying subs using the national verifier. Anyone 
who can't be certified will be excluded from the program.

One of the things Pai did early on in his tenure was to revoke the most 
recent round of Lifeline until the FCC addressed the verification issue. 
Pai's stated goal is to prevent waste, fraud and abuse, something he has 
long targeted in the program, though critics have suggested it was a 
draconian hit on lower income residents being denied service.



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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Jul  3 07:34:59 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 08:34:59 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Microsoft + Sacred Wind attack digital divide in
	rural NM
Message-ID: <9ecce00ae9bbde8f8cce83433b6b23bf@1st-mile.org>

Microsoft, Sacred Wind attack digital divide in rural NM

By: Kevin Robinson-Avila / Journal Staff Writer 6 days ago

(See the article for photos)

https://www-abqjournal-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.abqjournal.com/1333920/microsoft-sacred-wind-attack-digital-divide.html/amp

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. ? Albuquerque-based Sacred Wind Communications is 
partnering with Microsoft Corp. to provide wireless broadband to remote 
New Mexico communities through unused TV spectrum.

Sacred Wind will install Microsoft technology to tap into ?TV white 
spaces,? or unused UHF and VHF broadcast spectrum, to potentially 
provide high-speed internet for the first time to up to 40,000 rural 
households over the next eight years, Sacred Wind CEO John Badal told 
the Journal.

?This technology allows us to leap frog over older technologies to get 
broadband to more rural areas,? Badal said. ?Microsoft?s equipment costs 
about the same as other technologies widely used today, but it has much 
farther reach. The radio waves travel longer distances, and they can go 
through thick foliage, penetrate walls and roll over hills.?

The Federal Communications Commission made UHF and VHF spectrum 
available for broadband several years ago. But new equipment to manage 
carrier-grade broadband signals with enough capacity to satisfy 
customers was needed by providers like Sacred Wind to tap into TV white 
spaces, Badal said.

With Microsoft equipment in hand, the availability of TV spectrum could 
now open a lot more rural communities to affordable, fixed wireless 
service.

?Those frequencies are being used in urban areas, but they?re unused and 
available where there are no local TV channels, which is most of rural 
America,? Badal said.

The partnership is part of the Microsoft Airband Initiative, which aims 
to expand broadband to 3 million unserved people by July 2022. Under the 
initiative, launched in July 2017, Microsoft has signed partnerships 
with local service providers in 16 states. That will grow to 25 states 
by year-end.

?The broadband gap is hindering tribal and rural communities from 
reaping the social and economic benefits that come with access to the 
internet,? said Shelley McKinley, Microsoft general manager of 
technology and corporate responsibility, in a prepared statement. ?Our 
partnership with Sacred Wind Communications will bring reliable, 
high-speed Internet to underserved communities in New Mexico so that 
they can access the same opportunities as their urban counterparts.?

Sacred Wind will install transmitting microwave equipment on existing 
towers, and will also build a few new tower sites. It will attach 
receiving antennae on customer?s roofs.

Microsoft and Sacred Wind will share installation costs and revenue from 
the new service, Badal said.

Pricing has not been determined yet.

The technology will first be deployed in Grants, Milan, San Rafael, 
Yatahey and areas within the Navajo Nation?s Church Rock Chapter. 
Depending on success in that first-phase, which begins in late summer, 
the partners will expand service to more Navajo communities.

Sacred Wind, which launched in 2006, is the only private 
telecommunications firm in the country dedicated to providing services 
solely on tribal lands.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Jul  3 07:43:55 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 08:43:55 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Northern AZ Broadband News
Message-ID: <9b5e357f0ad4002bbf91ee822d321590@1st-mile.org>

When it comes to broadband, Northern Arizona is on its own

by Michele Nelson roundup staff reporter  Jul 2, 2019

https://www.paysonroundup.com/news/business/when-it-comes-to-broadband-northern-arizona-is-on-its/article_802a078c-a1f5-5b02-9b57-ea0fe00b79cc.html

Connecting Gila County schools to broadband with more capacity and 
reliability spurred a consortium of local residents to improve broadband 
for all citizens.

Currently, Arizona?s government does not provide oversight of broadband 
companies that provide crucial internet service statewide.

However, Arizona also recognizes broadband as a backbone infrastructure 
needed for jobs, public safety, business, health and communication.

So, where does that leave rural communities like Rim Country and the 
White Mountains?

Out in the cold.

That helps explain the lack of response when the region repeatedly 
suffered internet and related cell phone outages that cost thousands of 
dollars in lost business, but more importantly, put people at risk.

In Rim Country, one outage contributed to the death of a resident. 
Because cell phone providers use the one broadband line coming into 
town, no one could call an ambulance after his motorcycle hit an elk.

The resident died waiting for someone to drive to the hospital to find 
an ambulance.

The Arizona Corporation Commission regulates providers of crucial 
services like water and electricity, but has no authority over 
broadband.

?The commission does not regulate broadband when it is used to provide 
internet access,? said Holly Ward, communications director for the ACC.

The ACC can provide oversight if ?some services (are) provided over 
broadband (like voice-over-internet protocol) and may be regulated by 
the commission,? said Ward.

In the case of CenturyLink, the trunk line provider bringing internet 
from the network core to Rim Country, the ACC has no power to compel the 
company to improve broadband service. However, that also means the 
company has no protection from competitors who bring another broadband 
line to town.

?CenturyLink is the incumbent provider, but most telecommunications 
markets in the state are competitive now,? said Ward. ?Competitive 
carriers and wireless providers may ... serve the state now since the 
passage of the Telecommunications Act of 1996.?

Recognizing the Wild West attitude on broadband and spurred by the 
horrors of the outages, several local groups have been working for the 
past five years to find a solution. For a while, it looked like Rim 
Country would remain at the whims of corporations. Members of the Rim 
Country Broadband Consortium say providers wanted millions of dollars up 
front, with no guarantee the outages would end.

Then Cable One stepped up.

?Cable One is the only broadband provider who would work with us,? said 
members of the consortium.

Cable One now sits poised to connect a line from the network cores 
running along Interstates 40 and 10 from Show Low to Phoenix.

The new cable would radically increase the capacity of broadband in both 
Rim Country and the White Mountains, but more importantly, the line 
would provide a loop of service not vulnerable to outages.

Currently, the two communities each sit at the end of a spur line.

Cable One connects the White Mountains to the Interstate 40 network 
core, but stops at Show Low.

CenturyLink provides a spur line to Rim Country from Cottonwood. Maps of 
the state?s broadband lines show CenturyLink?s line runs along Highway 
17 connecting Flagstaff to a loop, but not Rim Country.

If either of these spur lines is cut, service comes to a stand still.

The new line proposed to create a loop between Show Low, Payson and 
Phoenix required creative financing and infinite patience to come about.

? The MHA Foundation paid $2 million for Cable One to come to Payson 
from Show Low.

? Cable One has offered to pay for some of the costs.

? E-rate will pay for spurs to go to schools and libraries in Gila, 
Apache and Navajo counties.

? Gila County has $2.5 million available to invest in broadband in its 
budget.

? The Town of Payson has agreed to pay $90,000 annually for 10 years.

? The Arizona Commerce Authority has $3 million to help with broadband 
in the state.

Increasing the capacity and reliability of broadband in Rim Country and 
the White Mountains will help Arizona realize Gov. Doug Ducey?s top five 
priorities: educational excellence; a 21st century economy; protecting 
communities; fiscal responsibility; and happy, healthy citizens.

State officials say construction on new E-rate connections will start in 
July.

MHA officials say their contract with Cable One requires the company to 
complete the link from Show Low through Forest Lakes to Payson by the 
end of the year.

Consortium officials confirm the line from Payson to Phoenix will happen 
with support from state, county and local governments, despite the lack 
of government oversight.

Rim Country and the White Mountains will benefit from guys who would 
have worn white hats in the Wild West.

Contact mnelson at payson.com


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu Jul 11 15:54:45 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:54:45 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Gets Set to Relax Telecom Unbundling Regulations
Message-ID: <bb8d9f5f2bae422a37689cb3e6acbdde@1st-mile.org>

It would be informative to hear from NM CLECs, ISPs or others here,
on the potential implications and impacts of this pending FCC action.

RL
----------------

FCC Gets Set to Relax Telecom Unbundling Regulations

7/9/19  by Joan Engebretson

https://www.telecompetitor.com/fcc-gets-set-to-relax-telecom-unbundling-regulations

The FCC took the first steps toward relaxing telecom unbundling 
regulations on voice services last week when FCC Chairman Ajit Pai 
circulated a draft order that would eliminate certain requirements for 
incumbent carriers.

If the order is adopted, incumbents would no longer be required to 
provide their competitors with analog voice-grade copper loops on an 
unbundled basis at regulated rates. In addition, the incumbents would 
not have to make certain services that they provide at retail available 
for resale at regulated rates. According to an FCC backgrounder 
document, the order calls for a three-year transition period to provide 
?a seamless move? for competitive carriers and their end-user customers 
to ?alternative voice service arrangements.?

The order would ?not grant forbearance from regulatory obligations 
governing broadband networks,? the FCC said in the backgrounder. This 
comment appears to indicate that incumbents would still be required to 
offer unbundled copper loops to competitors that want to add their own 
transport equipment to the loops to support DSL services.

USTelecom Forbearance Petition

As the FCC explains, the requirements that the commission may relax were 
designed to create competition at a time when incumbent carriers 
dominated the telecom service market.

?More than two decades later, the communications marketplace has 
transformed,? the FCC said. ?Consumers are migrating away from plain old 
telephone services provided over copper wires by their local telephone 
company toward newer, any-distance voice services provided over 
next-generation networks by cable, mobile and fixed wireless, and 
over-the-top VoIP providers.?

The draft order circulated last week is one of several steps that the 
commission has taken in response to a forbearance petition filed 
previously by incumbent carrier organization USTelecom. The commission 
will vote later this week on a separate order triggered by the USTelecom 
petition that would grant price cap carriers relief from ex ante pricing 
regulation of their lower speed time division multiplexed (TDM) 
transport business data services nationwide. Commissioners also will 
vote on a memorandum opinion and order that would partially grant

  USTelecom?s request for forbearance from DS-1 and DS-3 transport 
unbundling obligations for price cap carriers.

As part of its forbearance petition, USTelecom initially asked for 
relief from unbundling dark fiber but withdrew that request in June.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Jul 12 09:00:13 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:00:13 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC News
Message-ID: <7fe6882b03e56731f044f6737ca58042@1st-mile.org>

FCC News

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-62A1.pdf

---------

FCC adopts rule changes for EBS 2.5 GHz band, drops educational-use 
requirement

by Bevin Fletcher | Jul 11, 2019
https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/fcc-adopts-rule-changes-for-ebs-2-5-ghz-band-drops-educational-use-requirement

The Federal Communications Commission on Wednesday voted to adopt rule 
changes to the Educational Broadband Service (EBS) portion of the 2.5 
GHz band, including dropping the educational-use requirement for 
licensees.

The order establishes a priority filing window for Tribal Nations to 
obtain unassigned 2.5 GHz spectrum for use in their communities, after 
which remaining spectrum will be available to commercial entities via an 
auction expected to be held next year.

Although the 114-megahertz EBS portion of the band was originally 
intended for use by educational institutions to transmit video services, 
and later broadband, FCC Chairman Ajit Pai said that most current 
licensees don?t use the spectrum for educational purposes.

(snip)



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Jul 16 08:58:36 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:58:36 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
Message-ID: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>

FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states

Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 
23 States

The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to 
expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 
states, representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful 
Connect America Fund Phase II auction.

No funding for NM on this round.

RL



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From david at breeckerassociates.com  Tue Jul 16 09:10:41 2019
From: david at breeckerassociates.com (David Breecker [dba])
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 10:10:41 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
In-Reply-To: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
References: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>

I?d be very interested to hear folks? opinion on what an average of $2K/home buys you?


> On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:
> 
> FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States
> 
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states
> 
> Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States
> 
> The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 states, representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful Connect America Fund Phase II auction.
> 
> No funding for NM on this round.
> 
> RL
> 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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David Breecker,
President



David Breecker Associates
www.breeckerassociates.com <http://www.breeckerassociates.com/>

Santa Fe Office: 505-690-2335
Abiquiu Office:   505-685-4891
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From blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com  Tue Jul 16 09:26:18 2019
From: blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com (Doug Dawson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 16:26:18 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
In-Reply-To: <9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>
References: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
	<9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>
Message-ID: <0E28405E-3462-4376-A540-440246AF712E@ccgcomm.com>

The locations included in these awards are the most remote places in the US. I?m not even sure that $2,000 buy an upgrade to DSL. The issue for remote places is building fiber within a reasonable distance from a customer in order to shorten the loops.

Doug Dawson
President
CCG Consulting
202 255-7689

Check out CCG's blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com<http://potsandpansbyccg.com/>



From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of "David Breecker [dba]" <david at breeckerassociates.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM
To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
Cc: 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

I?d be very interested to hear folks? opinion on what an average of $2K/home buys you?



On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>> wrote:

FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states

Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 states, representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful Connect America Fund Phase II auction.

No funding for NM on this round.

RL



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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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David Breecker Associates
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Santa Fe Office: 505-690-2335
Abiquiu Office:   505-685-4891
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From JBadal at sacred-wind.com  Tue Jul 16 11:11:28 2019
From: JBadal at sacred-wind.com (John Badal)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:11:28 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
In-Reply-To: <0E28405E-3462-4376-A540-440246AF712E@ccgcomm.com>
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	<9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>
	<0E28405E-3462-4376-A540-440246AF712E@ccgcomm.com>
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Richard,

The FCC awarded New Mexico-serving companies in earlier rounds.  There are only 5 companies that won CAF II bids in NM, mostly in NW New Mexico.  All amounts are to be distributed over 10 years:

Commnet/NTUA, fixed wireless at 25Mbps download  - $16,936,400
Echo Wireless Broadband, fixed wireless at 25Mbps download - $1,542,200
Plains Internet, FTTH at 100Mbps download - $2,582,800
SW DinehNet, fixed wireless at 25Mbps download - $2,038,700
Viasat, satellite at 10Mbps download - $3,132,700.

Totalling for NM = $26,232,800

John

From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of Doug Dawson
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 10:26 AM
To: David Breecker [dba] <david at breeckerassociates.com>; Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
Cc: 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

The locations included in these awards are the most remote places in the US. I?m not even sure that $2,000 buy an upgrade to DSL. The issue for remote places is building fiber within a reasonable distance from a customer in order to shorten the loops.

Doug Dawson
President
CCG Consulting
202 255-7689

Check out CCG's blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com<http://potsandpansbyccg.com/>



From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org>> on behalf of "David Breecker [dba]" <david at breeckerassociates.com<mailto:david at breeckerassociates.com>>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM
To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
Cc: 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

I?d be very interested to hear folks? opinion on what an average of $2K/home buys you?


On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>> wrote:

FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states

Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 states, representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful Connect America Fund Phase II auction.

No funding for NM on this round.

RL



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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
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David Breecker Associates
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From tom at jtjohnson.com  Tue Jul 16 12:25:53 2019
From: tom at jtjohnson.com (Tom Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:25:53 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Workshop on Finding and Using NM Data
Message-ID: <CABg8s8LAiNL5zeMnkeEh__bjNknP=ce4xjgQKCZjMf6wmDk6ew@mail.gmail.com>

Friends:
Please see the attached.  Perhaps you or some of your staff would be
interested.

And please pass along to others
Cheers, Tom

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From editorsteve at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 15:28:13 2019
From: editorsteve at gmail.com (Steve Ross)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:28:13 -0400
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
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	<9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>
	<0E28405E-3462-4376-A540-440246AF712E@ccgcomm.com>
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Not the right question in most cases. The issue is how much extra a carrier
needs to break even on service. So if she breaks even at cost per customer
of $3000 and the cost for customer X is $5,000 then the extra $2k does the
trick.

Steve Ross

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:

> The locations included in these awards are the most remote places in the
> US. I?m not even sure that $2,000 buy an upgrade to DSL. The issue for
> remote places is building fiber within a reasonable distance from a
> customer in order to shorten the loops.
>
>
>
> Doug Dawson
>
> President
>
> CCG Consulting
>
> 202 255-7689
>
>
>
> Check out CCG's blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of
> "David Breecker [dba]" <david at breeckerassociates.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM
> *To: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> *Cc: *1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
>
>
>
> I?d be very interested to hear folks? opinion on what an average of
> $2K/home buys you?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States
>
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states
>
> Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in
> 23 States
>
> The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to
> expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 states,
> representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful Connect
> America Fund Phase II auction.
>
> No funding for NM on this round.
>
> RL
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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>
> President
>
>
> [image: cid:8A267772-F40A-46DC-B764-34AFA932ED45]
>
>
> * David Breecker Associates*
>
> *www.breeckerassociates.com <http://www.breeckerassociates.com>*
>
>
>
> Santa Fe Office: 505-690-2335
>
> Abiquiu Office:   505-685-4891
>
> Skype:  dbreecker
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From jeff at mountainconnect.org  Tue Jul 16 16:54:30 2019
From: jeff at mountainconnect.org (Jeff)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 23:54:30 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
In-Reply-To: <CA+x697MH2J3XZ6-g1KWcbk0-D1DewKj03DasU+8apcGg_dDKCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
	<9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>
	<0E28405E-3462-4376-A540-440246AF712E@ccgcomm.com>
	<CA+x697MH2J3XZ6-g1KWcbk0-D1DewKj03DasU+8apcGg_dDKCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9C27E856-D894-4DC6-9B56-F545CBD58A26@mountainconnect.org>

I am curious Steve, do you really think Incumbents will actually use the money to build sustainable solutions?

Jeffrey Gavlinski
CEO, Mountain Connect
mountainconnect.org
970 382-1799

From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces+jeff=mountainconnect.org at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 4:29 PM
To: Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
Cc: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

Not the right question in most cases. The issue is how much extra a carrier needs to break even on service. So if she breaks even at cost per customer of $3000 and the cost for customer X is $5,000 then the extra $2k does the trick.

Steve Ross

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com<mailto:blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>> wrote:
The locations included in these awards are the most remote places in the US. I?m not even sure that $2,000 buy an upgrade to DSL. The issue for remote places is building fiber within a reasonable distance from a customer in order to shorten the loops.

Doug Dawson
President
CCG Consulting
202 255-7689

Check out CCG's blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com<http://potsandpansbyccg.com/>



From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org>> on behalf of "David Breecker [dba]" <david at breeckerassociates.com<mailto:david at breeckerassociates.com>>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM
To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
Cc: 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

I?d be very interested to hear folks? opinion on what an average of $2K/home buys you?


On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>> wrote:

FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states

Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 states, representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful Connect America Fund Phase II auction.

No funding for NM on this round.

RL



---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
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David Breecker Associates
www.breeckerassociates.com<http://www.breeckerassociates.com>

Santa Fe Office: 505-690-2335
Abiquiu Office:   505-685-4891
Skype:  dbreecker

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From blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com  Tue Jul 16 16:59:01 2019
From: blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com (Doug Dawson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 23:59:01 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
In-Reply-To: <9C27E856-D894-4DC6-9B56-F545CBD58A26@mountainconnect.org>
References: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
	<9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>
	<0E28405E-3462-4376-A540-440246AF712E@ccgcomm.com>
	<CA+x697MH2J3XZ6-g1KWcbk0-D1DewKj03DasU+8apcGg_dDKCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9C27E856-D894-4DC6-9B56-F545CBD58A26@mountainconnect.org>
Message-ID: <B28AAF23-E561-411B-9C54-949C118CB31D@ccgcomm.com>

Ha. Jeff is right. The word I?m hearing from the trenches is that Frontier and CenturyLink spent just enough money out of CAF II to be able to make a claim that they tried, but they didn?t spend nearly all that the FCC gave them.

What Steve is describing is what some if the smaller telcos did with ACAM funds. The FCC gave them enough to upgrade to DSL and the companies borrowed the rest of to money needed to build FTTH.

Doug

From: Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 7:54 PM
To: Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>, Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
Cc: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

I am curious Steve, do you really think Incumbents will actually use the money to build sustainable solutions?

Jeffrey Gavlinski
CEO, Mountain Connect
mountainconnect.org
970 382-1799

From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces+jeff=mountainconnect.org at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 4:29 PM
To: Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
Cc: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

Not the right question in most cases. The issue is how much extra a carrier needs to break even on service. So if she breaks even at cost per customer of $3000 and the cost for customer X is $5,000 then the extra $2k does the trick.

Steve Ross

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com<mailto:blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>> wrote:
The locations included in these awards are the most remote places in the US. I?m not even sure that $2,000 buy an upgrade to DSL. The issue for remote places is building fiber within a reasonable distance from a customer in order to shorten the loops.

Doug Dawson
President
CCG Consulting
202 255-7689

Check out CCG's blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com<http://potsandpansbyccg.com/>



From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org>> on behalf of "David Breecker [dba]" <david at breeckerassociates.com<mailto:david at breeckerassociates.com>>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM
To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
Cc: 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

I?d be very interested to hear folks? opinion on what an average of $2K/home buys you?


On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>> wrote:

FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states

Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 states, representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful Connect America Fund Phase II auction.

No funding for NM on this round.

RL



---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
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David Breecker Associates
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Santa Fe Office: 505-690-2335
Abiquiu Office:   505-685-4891
Skype:  dbreecker

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From jeff at mountainconnect.org  Tue Jul 16 17:10:43 2019
From: jeff at mountainconnect.org (Jeff)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 00:10:43 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
In-Reply-To: <B28AAF23-E561-411B-9C54-949C118CB31D@ccgcomm.com>
References: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
	<9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>
	<0E28405E-3462-4376-A540-440246AF712E@ccgcomm.com>
	<CA+x697MH2J3XZ6-g1KWcbk0-D1DewKj03DasU+8apcGg_dDKCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9C27E856-D894-4DC6-9B56-F545CBD58A26@mountainconnect.org>
	<B28AAF23-E561-411B-9C54-949C118CB31D@ccgcomm.com>
Message-ID: <313FFBCC-80C2-47FF-A053-45F3FB4C9F7B@mountainconnect.org>

Doug,

I understand but it seems to me we give a ?pass? to the outcomes of federal subsidies and have done so for a very long time ? especially with the Incumbents.  Rural citizens, for the most part, don?t pay attention to the details nor should we have an expectation that they would but I would be curious to know the total amount of federal subsidies allocated over the past decade versus outcomes.  Does this money make a profound difference and are we really uplifting our rural communities?

Jeffrey Gavlinski
CEO, Mountain Connect
mountainconnect.org
970 382-1799

From: Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 5:59 PM
To: "jeff at mountainconnect.org" <jeff at mountainconnect.org>, Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

Ha. Jeff is right. The word I?m hearing from the trenches is that Frontier and CenturyLink spent just enough money out of CAF II to be able to make a claim that they tried, but they didn?t spend nearly all that the FCC gave them.

What Steve is describing is what some if the smaller telcos did with ACAM funds. The FCC gave them enough to upgrade to DSL and the companies borrowed the rest of to money needed to build FTTH.

Doug

From: Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 7:54 PM
To: Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>, Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
Cc: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

I am curious Steve, do you really think Incumbents will actually use the money to build sustainable solutions?

Jeffrey Gavlinski
CEO, Mountain Connect
mountainconnect.org
970 382-1799

From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces+jeff=mountainconnect.org at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 4:29 PM
To: Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
Cc: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

Not the right question in most cases. The issue is how much extra a carrier needs to break even on service. So if she breaks even at cost per customer of $3000 and the cost for customer X is $5,000 then the extra $2k does the trick.

Steve Ross

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com<mailto:blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>> wrote:
The locations included in these awards are the most remote places in the US. I?m not even sure that $2,000 buy an upgrade to DSL. The issue for remote places is building fiber within a reasonable distance from a customer in order to shorten the loops.

Doug Dawson
President
CCG Consulting
202 255-7689

Check out CCG's blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com<http://potsandpansbyccg.com/>



From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org>> on behalf of "David Breecker [dba]" <david at breeckerassociates.com<mailto:david at breeckerassociates.com>>
Date: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM
To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
Cc: 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org<mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

I?d be very interested to hear folks? opinion on what an average of $2K/home buys you?


On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>> wrote:

FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states

Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States

The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 states, representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful Connect America Fund Phase II auction.

No funding for NM on this round.

RL



---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>     www.1st-mile.org<http://www.1st-mile.org>
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David Breecker Associates
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Santa Fe Office: 505-690-2335
Abiquiu Office:   505-685-4891
Skype:  dbreecker

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From drew.einhorn at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 17:24:55 2019
From: drew.einhorn at gmail.com (Drew Einhorn)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:24:55 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
In-Reply-To: <313FFBCC-80C2-47FF-A053-45F3FB4C9F7B@mountainconnect.org>
References: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
	<9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>
	<0E28405E-3462-4376-A540-440246AF712E@ccgcomm.com>
	<CA+x697MH2J3XZ6-g1KWcbk0-D1DewKj03DasU+8apcGg_dDKCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9C27E856-D894-4DC6-9B56-F545CBD58A26@mountainconnect.org>
	<B28AAF23-E561-411B-9C54-949C118CB31D@ccgcomm.com>
	<313FFBCC-80C2-47FF-A053-45F3FB4C9F7B@mountainconnect.org>
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Not all incumbents are the same.

CenturyLink's goal is to kill all competition even in markets they have no
intention of serving.

Past performance should be an important criteria for future grant
applications.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 18:12 Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org> wrote:

> Doug,
>
>
>
> I understand but it seems to me we give a ?pass? to the outcomes of
> federal subsidies and have done so for a very long time ? especially with
> the Incumbents.  Rural citizens, for the most part, don?t pay attention to
> the details nor should we have an expectation that they would but I would
> be curious to know the total amount of federal subsidies allocated over the
> past decade versus outcomes.  Does this money make a profound difference
> and are we really uplifting our rural communities?
>
>
>
> Jeffrey Gavlinski
>
> CEO, Mountain Connect
>
> mountainconnect.org
>
> 970 382-1799
>
>
>
> *From: *Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 5:59 PM
> *To: *"jeff at mountainconnect.org" <jeff at mountainconnect.org>, Steve Ross <
> editorsteve at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
>
>
>
> Ha. Jeff is right. The word I?m hearing from the trenches is that Frontier
> and CenturyLink spent just enough money out of CAF II to be able to make a
> claim that they tried, but they didn?t spend nearly all that the FCC gave
> them.
>
>
>
> What Steve is describing is what some if the smaller telcos did with ACAM
> funds. The FCC gave them enough to upgrade to DSL and the companies
> borrowed the rest of to money needed to build FTTH.
>
>
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> *From: *Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 7:54 PM
> *To: *Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>, Doug Dawson <
> blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
> *Cc: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
>
>
>
> I am curious Steve, do you really think Incumbents will actually use the
> money to build sustainable solutions?
>
>
>
> Jeffrey Gavlinski
>
> CEO, Mountain Connect
>
> mountainconnect.org
>
> 970 382-1799
>
>
>
> *From: *1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces+jeff=
> mountainconnect.org at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Steve Ross <
> editorsteve at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 4:29 PM
> *To: *Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
> *Cc: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
>
>
>
> Not the right question in most cases. The issue is how much extra a
> carrier needs to break even on service. So if she breaks even at cost per
> customer of $3000 and the cost for customer X is $5,000 then the extra
> $2k does the trick.
>
>
>
> Steve Ross
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:
>
> The locations included in these awards are the most remote places in the
> US. I?m not even sure that $2,000 buy an upgrade to DSL. The issue for
> remote places is building fiber within a reasonable distance from a
> customer in order to shorten the loops.
>
>
>
> Doug Dawson
>
> President
>
> CCG Consulting
>
> 202 255-7689
>
>
>
> Check out CCG's blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of
> "David Breecker [dba]" <david at breeckerassociates.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM
> *To: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> *Cc: *1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
>
>
>
> I?d be very interested to hear folks? opinion on what an average of
> $2K/home buys you?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States
>
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states
>
> Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in
> 23 States
>
> The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to
> expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 states,
> representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful Connect
> America Fund Phase II auction.
>
> No funding for NM on this round.
>
> RL
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
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> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>
>
>
> David Breecker,
>
> President
>
>
> [image: cid:8A267772-F40A-46DC-B764-34AFA932ED45]
>
>
> * David Breecker Associates*
>
> *www.breeckerassociates.com <http://www.breeckerassociates.com>*
>
>
>
> Santa Fe Office: 505-690-2335
>
> Abiquiu Office:   505-685-4891
>
> Skype:  dbreecker
>
>
>
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From editorsteve at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 17:49:08 2019
From: editorsteve at gmail.com (Steve Ross)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 20:49:08 -0400
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1u4k3rawDaL3xOmQ_X3Tv_USrFWoA8Wqfu78WG+POKZtsATg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
	<9E2F8600-14CC-4C79-9192-66ABED831491@breeckerassociates.com>
	<0E28405E-3462-4376-A540-440246AF712E@ccgcomm.com>
	<CA+x697MH2J3XZ6-g1KWcbk0-D1DewKj03DasU+8apcGg_dDKCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9C27E856-D894-4DC6-9B56-F545CBD58A26@mountainconnect.org>
	<B28AAF23-E561-411B-9C54-949C118CB31D@ccgcomm.com>
	<313FFBCC-80C2-47FF-A053-45F3FB4C9F7B@mountainconnect.org>
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The FCC 10-year subsidies on very sparse areas left after other areas
attract some carrier attention often end up funding satellite or some odd
wireless stuff.

This little piece of money was left after CAF2 attracted projects that got
about $150 million a year of the $200 million available. That $200 million
was what was left after CAF.

Over at USDA there is the $600 million being spent on reconnect that
carriers cannot directly combine with the FCC money, and another $350 million
a year for 5 years from HR2 for which the rules are still being written.

So far, the idea is to throw money at smaller carriers, to push their
resources over the top by cutting what they would otherwise need to deploy
by 15-30%. But the USDA money in some cases could indeed be used to supply,
say, 75% of the total cost.



On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 8:25 PM Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not all incumbents are the same.
>
> CenturyLink's goal is to kill all competition even in markets they have no
> intention of serving.
>
> Past performance should be an important criteria for future grant
> applications.
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 18:12 Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>>
>>
>> I understand but it seems to me we give a ?pass? to the outcomes of
>> federal subsidies and have done so for a very long time ? especially with
>> the Incumbents.  Rural citizens, for the most part, don?t pay attention to
>> the details nor should we have an expectation that they would but I would
>> be curious to know the total amount of federal subsidies allocated over the
>> past decade versus outcomes.  Does this money make a profound difference
>> and are we really uplifting our rural communities?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey Gavlinski
>>
>> CEO, Mountain Connect
>>
>> mountainconnect.org
>>
>> 970 382-1799
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 5:59 PM
>> *To: *"jeff at mountainconnect.org" <jeff at mountainconnect.org>, Steve Ross <
>> editorsteve at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
>>
>>
>>
>> Ha. Jeff is right. The word I?m hearing from the trenches is that
>> Frontier and CenturyLink spent just enough money out of CAF II to be able
>> to make a claim that they tried, but they didn?t spend nearly all that the
>> FCC gave them.
>>
>>
>>
>> What Steve is describing is what some if the smaller telcos did with ACAM
>> funds. The FCC gave them enough to upgrade to DSL and the companies
>> borrowed the rest of to money needed to build FTTH.
>>
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Jeff <jeff at mountainconnect.org>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 7:54 PM
>> *To: *Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com>, Doug Dawson <
>> blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
>> *Cc: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
>>
>>
>>
>> I am curious Steve, do you really think Incumbents will actually use the
>> money to build sustainable solutions?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey Gavlinski
>>
>> CEO, Mountain Connect
>>
>> mountainconnect.org
>>
>> 970 382-1799
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces+jeff=
>> mountainconnect.org at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Steve Ross <
>> editorsteve at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 4:29 PM
>> *To: *Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
>> *Cc: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>, 1st-Mile-NM <
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
>>
>>
>>
>> Not the right question in most cases. The issue is how much extra a
>> carrier needs to break even on service. So if she breaks even at cost per
>> customer of $3000 and the cost for customer X is $5,000 then the extra
>> $2k does the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Ross
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The locations included in these awards are the most remote places in the
>> US. I?m not even sure that $2,000 buy an upgrade to DSL. The issue for
>> remote places is building fiber within a reasonable distance from a
>> customer in order to shorten the loops.
>>
>>
>>
>> Doug Dawson
>>
>> President
>>
>> CCG Consulting
>>
>> 202 255-7689
>>
>>
>>
>> Check out CCG's blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of
>> "David Breecker [dba]" <david at breeckerassociates.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM
>> *To: *Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
>> *Cc: *1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM
>>
>>
>>
>> I?d be very interested to hear folks? opinion on what an average of
>> $2K/home buys you?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in 23 States
>>
>>
>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-524-million-rural-broadband-expansion-23-states
>>
>> Full Title: FCC Authorizes $524 Million for Rural Broadband Expansion in
>> 23 States
>>
>> The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to
>> expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 states,
>> representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful Connect
>> America Fund Phase II auction.
>>
>> No funding for NM on this round.
>>
>> RL
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
>> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
>> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
>> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> _______________________________________________
>> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>>
>>
>>
>> David Breecker,
>>
>> President
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:8A267772-F40A-46DC-B764-34AFA932ED45]
>>
>>
>> * David Breecker Associates*
>>
>> *www.breeckerassociates.com <http://www.breeckerassociates.com>*
>>
>>
>>
>> Santa Fe Office: 505-690-2335
>>
>> Abiquiu Office:   505-685-4891
>>
>> Skype:  dbreecker
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>>
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu Jul 18 08:52:47 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:52:47 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC E-Rate News
Message-ID: <e32bff9ca08377028a903db03ced62a4@1st-mile.org>

FCC E-Rate News

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-19-669A1.pdf

July 17, 2019

WIRELINE COMPETITION BUREAU DIRECTS USAC TO FULLY FUND ELIGIBLE CATEGORY 
ONE AND CATEGORY TWO E-RATE REQUESTS
CC Docket No. 02-6

In this Notice, the Wireline Competition Bureau (Bureau) announces that 
there is sufficient funding available to fully meet the Universal 
Service Administrative Company?s (USAC) estimated demand for category 
one and category two requests for E-Rate supported services for funding 
year 2019.1

On April 1, 2019, USAC submitted a demand estimate for the E-Rate 
program for funding year 2019.2 It estimates the total demand for 
funding year 2019 will be $2.896 billion, which includes estimated 
demand for category one services of $1.91 billion and of $985 million 
for category two services.3

The Bureau announced that the E-Rate program funding cap for funding 
year 2019 is $4.15 billion.4 Additionally, according to USAC 
projections, $1 billion in unused funds from previous years is available 
for use in E-Rate funding year 2019.5

(snip)


---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From roman at romanmaes.com  Thu Jul 18 09:05:39 2019
From: roman at romanmaes.com (roman romanmaes.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:05:39 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC E-Rate News
In-Reply-To: <e32bff9ca08377028a903db03ced62a4@1st-mile.org>
References: <e32bff9ca08377028a903db03ced62a4@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <BYAPR12MB3013B354ECBBC8D664825F1EAFC80@BYAPR12MB3013.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

Richard, great information.  Truly appreciate your hard work.


Roman M Maes III, BBA, JD

Advisor One Consulting

San Diego, California

Phone 619-230-5582

Email   roman at romanmaes.com

________________________________
From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> on behalf of Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 8:52 AM
To: 1st-mile Nm
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC E-Rate News

FCC E-Rate News

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-19-669A1.pdf

July 17, 2019

WIRELINE COMPETITION BUREAU DIRECTS USAC TO FULLY FUND ELIGIBLE CATEGORY
ONE AND CATEGORY TWO E-RATE REQUESTS
CC Docket No. 02-6

In this Notice, the Wireline Competition Bureau (Bureau) announces that
there is sufficient funding available to fully meet the Universal
Service Administrative Company?s (USAC) estimated demand for category
one and category two requests for E-Rate supported services for funding
year 2019.1

On April 1, 2019, USAC submitted a demand estimate for the E-Rate
program for funding year 2019.2 It estimates the total demand for
funding year 2019 will be $2.896 billion, which includes estimated
demand for category one services of $1.91 billion and of $985 million
for category two services.3

The Bureau announced that the E-Rate program funding cap for funding
year 2019 is $4.15 billion.4 Additionally, according to USAC
projections, $1 billion in unused funds from previous years is available
for use in E-Rate funding year 2019.5

(snip)


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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
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From dlc at lampinc.com  Thu Jul 18 15:08:53 2019
From: dlc at lampinc.com (Dale Carstensen)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:08:53 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] VICE article: fastest US ISPs have local government
	participation
Message-ID: <20190718220854.46E943CA@lacn.los-alamos.net>


 <https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7xgne9/locally-run-isps-offer-the-fastest-broadband-in-america>





From dlc at lampinc.com  Thu Jul 18 17:00:52 2019
From: dlc at lampinc.com (Dale Carstensen)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 17:00:52 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM and Re:
 FCC E-Rate News
In-Reply-To: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
References: <673d5158364dd8803311ac4a0892669f@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <20190719000052.AF39843D@lacn.los-alamos.net>

I see so much irony in the amounts of money involved in these two
announcements.

$524 million for 10 years to assist rural broadband is for the Rural BB
Funding.

Nearly twice that ($985 million) to potentially nearly 10 times that
($5.15 billion) for 1 year is for the FCC E-Rate News funding.  The
ratio is somewhere between 18.7 and 98 times the money per unit of time.

The term "chump change" comes to mind, but then experience reminds me
even that will be mostly wasted, and what would really help isn't
money so much as it is policy to make right-of-way (lots of that
would be pole attachments) available, etc.

I found an FCC web page that explains what category one and two mean.
Both are only for eligible schools and libraries.  And not necessarily
just rural ones are eligible.  Category one is to subsidize expenses
for getting and keeping a connection to the internet.  Category two is
to subsidize network infrastructure internal to the school or library
system.

>Date:   Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:58:36 -0600
>To:     1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>From:   Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
>Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rural BB Funding in 23 states: not NM

>The FCC authorized over $524 million in funding over the next decade to 
>expand broadband to 205,520 unserved rural homes & businesses in 23 
>states, representing the 3rd wave of support from last year's successful 
>Connect America Fund Phase II auction.
>
>No funding for NM on this round.


>Date:   Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:52:47 -0600
>To:     1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>From:   Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
>Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC E-Rate News

>In this Notice, the Wireline Competition Bureau (Bureau) announces that 
>there is sufficient funding available to fully meet the Universal 
>Service Administrative Company?s (USAC) estimated demand for category 
>one and category two requests for E-Rate supported services for funding 
>year 2019.
>
>On April 1, 2019, USAC submitted a demand estimate for the E-Rate 
>program for funding year 2019. It estimates the total demand for 
>funding year 2019 will be $2.896 billion, which includes estimated 
>demand for category one services of $1.91 billion and of $985 million 
>for category two services.
>
>The Bureau announced that the E-Rate program funding cap for funding 
>year 2019 is $4.15 billion. Additionally, according to USAC 
>projections, $1 billion in unused funds from previous years is available 
>for use in E-Rate funding year 2019.




From rl at 1st-mile.org  Sat Jul 20 21:46:09 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 22:46:09 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Internet Expanded for San Ildefonso Pueblo in New
	Mexico
Message-ID: <198f285644e8f947b43cec1a0ac58a00@1st-mile.org>

I'd like to know more about this story, as I live next to the Pueblo,
and have followed its (lack of) involvement with prior USDA funded 
wireless networking opportunities and restricting access to right of 
ways for the ARRA funded open access REDI-Net fiber project.   
Additional new information would be appreciated.
RL

---------

Internet Expanded for San Ildefonso Pueblo in New Mexico

NMSurf will install a new 40-foot-tall wireless facility that will 
provide 1 gigabit service to the pueblo?s administrative offices and 50 
Mbps to all residences within sight of the utility pole.

BY TEYA VITU, THE SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN / JULY 3, 2019
https://www.govtech.com/network/Internet-Expanded-for-the-San-Ildefonso-Pueblo-in-New-Mexico.html

(TNS) ? Internet service at the San Ildefonso Pueblo, which is a census 
designated area in New Mexico, will move into the modern day in the 
coming weeks. NMSurf, a provider based in Santa Fe, N.M., will install a 
new 40-foot-tall wireless facility that will provide 100 megabits per 
second service ? or 1 gigabit ? to the pueblo?s administrative offices 
and 50 Mbps to all residences within sight of the utility pole.

This $40,000 project replaces scattershot Internet service at San 
Ildefonso, where the administrative office operates on less than 2 Mbps 
through copper wire and other sections of the pueblo vary from 25 Mbps 
down to no Internet service, said Terry Aguilar, project manager for San 
Ildefonso infrastructure projects and a former pueblo governor.

San Ildefonso Pueblo is located on 4.2 square miles between Pojoaque and 
Los Alamos, N.M., with 177 tribal households and 450 non-tribal 
households, Aguilar said, but the service will extend beyond the pueblo 
boundaries as far as the signal reaches.

?There is so much possibility with this service,? San Ildefonso Gov. 
Terry Martinez said. ?Pueblo administration will be a lot more efficient 
working with banks and the federal government. Sometimes now I wait for 
a minute for basic information to download.?

Martinez said better Internet service is also coming to the pueblo?s 
senior center, library, learning center and anyone within sight of 
NMSurf?s pole. NMSurf will be the first provider transmitting from the 
pueblo-owned utility pole. Aguilar said at a later date other Internet 
service providers will be invited to use the wireless facility and 
cellular phone service may also be added.

NMSurf President Albert Catanach believes this new wireless facility 
takes a small bite out the U.S. Census Bureau?s ranking New Mexico at 
No. 48 among the least connected states for broadband.

?At least 50 percent of the pueblo is underserved,? Catanach said. 
?Underserved is less than 25 Mbps.?

NMSurf already serves the other 50 percent of the San Ildefonso Pueblo.

The groundbreaking for the wireless tower was June 25 with service 
expected to be operational sometime in the second half of July.



---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From coffin at isoc.org  Sun Jul 21 09:19:42 2019
From: coffin at isoc.org (Jane Coffin)
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 16:19:42 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Internet Expanded for San Ildefonso Pueblo in New
 Mexico
In-Reply-To: <198f285644e8f947b43cec1a0ac58a00@1st-mile.org>
References: <198f285644e8f947b43cec1a0ac58a00@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <0DCF0295-079B-4410-A299-D23E1DA663EA@isoc.org>

Hi Richard and all -

It also would be interesting to know if the service is "free" for a specified period of time with a plan to move to a small fee-based service after that to help with future sustainability and/or future equipment costs/or admin costs.

Best,
Jane 

 
Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org

Skype:  janercoffin

Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429

?On 7/21/19, 12:47 AM, "1st-mile-nm on behalf of Richard Lowenberg" <1st-mile-nm-bounces+coffin=isoc.org at mailman.dcn.org on behalf of rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:

    I'd like to know more about this story, as I live next to the Pueblo,
    and have followed its (lack of) involvement with prior USDA funded 
    wireless networking opportunities and restricting access to right of 
    ways for the ARRA funded open access REDI-Net fiber project.   
    Additional new information would be appreciated.
    RL
    
    ---------
    
    Internet Expanded for San Ildefonso Pueblo in New Mexico
    
    NMSurf will install a new 40-foot-tall wireless facility that will 
    provide 1 gigabit service to the pueblo?s administrative offices and 50 
    Mbps to all residences within sight of the utility pole.
    
    BY TEYA VITU, THE SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN / JULY 3, 2019
    https://www.govtech.com/network/Internet-Expanded-for-the-San-Ildefonso-Pueblo-in-New-Mexico.html
    
    (TNS) ? Internet service at the San Ildefonso Pueblo, which is a census 
    designated area in New Mexico, will move into the modern day in the 
    coming weeks. NMSurf, a provider based in Santa Fe, N.M., will install a 
    new 40-foot-tall wireless facility that will provide 100 megabits per 
    second service ? or 1 gigabit ? to the pueblo?s administrative offices 
    and 50 Mbps to all residences within sight of the utility pole.
    
    This $40,000 project replaces scattershot Internet service at San 
    Ildefonso, where the administrative office operates on less than 2 Mbps 
    through copper wire and other sections of the pueblo vary from 25 Mbps 
    down to no Internet service, said Terry Aguilar, project manager for San 
    Ildefonso infrastructure projects and a former pueblo governor.
    
    San Ildefonso Pueblo is located on 4.2 square miles between Pojoaque and 
    Los Alamos, N.M., with 177 tribal households and 450 non-tribal 
    households, Aguilar said, but the service will extend beyond the pueblo 
    boundaries as far as the signal reaches.
    
    ?There is so much possibility with this service,? San Ildefonso Gov. 
    Terry Martinez said. ?Pueblo administration will be a lot more efficient 
    working with banks and the federal government. Sometimes now I wait for 
    a minute for basic information to download.?
    
    Martinez said better Internet service is also coming to the pueblo?s 
    senior center, library, learning center and anyone within sight of 
    NMSurf?s pole. NMSurf will be the first provider transmitting from the 
    pueblo-owned utility pole. Aguilar said at a later date other Internet 
    service providers will be invited to use the wireless facility and 
    cellular phone service may also be added.
    
    NMSurf President Albert Catanach believes this new wireless facility 
    takes a small bite out the U.S. Census Bureau?s ranking New Mexico at 
    No. 48 among the least connected states for broadband.
    
    ?At least 50 percent of the pueblo is underserved,? Catanach said. 
    ?Underserved is less than 25 Mbps.?
    
    NMSurf already serves the other 50 percent of the San Ildefonso Pueblo.
    
    The groundbreaking for the wireless tower was June 25 with service 
    expected to be operational sometime in the second half of July.
    
    
    
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    1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
    Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Jul 24 10:01:12 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:01:12 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] CenturyLink Fiber Expansion Plan
Message-ID: <734b250d60eaa63fd4f199810b201851@1st-mile.org>

CenturyLink Fiber Expansion Plan Aims to Create Largest ?Low Loss? Fiber 
Network in North America

https://www.telecompetitor.com/centurylink-fiber-expansion-plan-aims-to-create-largest-low-loss-fiber-network-in-north-america

See more on the CenturyLink site.

http://news.centurylink.com/2019-07-23-CenturyLink-Expands-Fiber-Network-Across-U-S-and-Europe




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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Sat Jul 27 08:04:05 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 09:04:05 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: E-rate RFP Opportunity: North Central Consortium
In-Reply-To: <PoZ2n000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000PV9UWK00Z4GBYz5_TYuMK-1J45HKeA@sfdc.net>
References: <PoZ2n000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000PV9UWK00Z4GBYz5_TYuMK-1J45HKeA@sfdc.net>
Message-ID: <c4e8d56803c09337a5483a72810a7fa1@1st-mile.org>


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: E-rate RFP Opportunity: North Central Consortium
Date: 2019-07-26 17:07
 From: Ruth Bingham <rbingham at nmpsfa.org>


To All New Mexico Service Providers,

Good afternoon, we here at Public School Facilities Authority (PSFA) and
the Broadband Deficiencies Correction Program (BDCP), along with the
Northwest Regional Education Cooperative #2 (NWREC2) on behalf of 20
entities: 12 school districts, one charter school, and seven libraries,
are excited to announce that our North Central Consortium (NCC) RFP has
been posted!

We want to notify every service provider in the area to look at our RFP,
so that anyone who can, will respond and come to our pre-proposal
meeting on August 6, 2019.  Please see the link below to access the
information as to what, where, and when this is taking place.

https://www.nwrec2.org/ Thank you, and we hope to hear from many of you.

Ruth Bingham
BDCP Administrative Assistant
Public School Facilities Authority
1312 Basehart Rd. SE, Suite 200
Albuquerque, NM 87106
Office: 505-843-6272 ext. 1074
Direct: 505-468-0268
Email: rbingham at nmpsfa.org
Web: www.nmpsfa.org


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Jul 31 19:18:08 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 20:18:08 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: Disconnected: Seven Lessons on Fixing the
	Digital Divide
In-Reply-To: <5d41e0f6.1c69fb81.d9cf3.9582SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
References: <5d41e0f6.1c69fb81.d9cf3.9582SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <d6362a2938ce684b6e52524d2874b9fc@1st-mile.org>

A new report on the Digital Divide, from the Federal Reserve Bank of 
Kansas City.  NM is in the Central Bank's seven state area.
RL

------

_Disconnected: Seven Lessons on Fixing the Digital Divide_ is a new
report from the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City that focuses on the
gap between those with and without access to affordable, reliable
broadband and the skills and equipment to utilize it.

  Based on national data, interviews, surveys and roundtables,
_Disconnected_  illustrates how the digital divide affects every aspect
of community and economic development, and that the digital divide
should capture the attention of every community leader. This is not a
technical report, but is instead intended to give non-experts a working
knowledge of the size, scope and relevance of the digital divide.

https://www.kansascityfed.org/community/~/media/31dc7512db164fce8ae79ec7709924fd.ashx



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Aug  2 10:54:58 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 11:54:58 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Pew: State Broadband Policy Explorer
Message-ID: <c188174defbd9e4717e746c5cdab3750@1st-mile.org>

The Pew Charitable Trusts released the State Broadband Policy Explorer - 
an easily accessible database that contains information on state-level 
broadband policy and legislation. The database is so valuable because 
state and local leaders can learn from each other to refine broadband 
policy and legislation, service providers can better understand the 
broadband policy environment in a state, researchers can now easily 
conduct analysis on the differences of broadband laws around the 
country, and the general public can now better recognize how states 
encourage -- or hinder -- the rollout of broadband.

https://www.pewtrusts.org/research-and-analysis/data-visualizations/2019/state-broadband-policy-explorer

I have not checked the database, but found 11 items listed under NM,
some not current, I expect.

RL

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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Aug  2 11:54:16 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 12:54:16 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC UPDATES CABLE FRANCHISING RULES
Message-ID: <06e26025ce53aae2575d346a378e8612@1st-mile.org>

The FCC is removing local franchises and programming.   Following is an 
FCC statement and a response by NATOA (National Association of 
Telecommunication Officers and Administrators).
RL
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FCC UPDATES CABLE FRANCHISING RULES TO PROMOTE BROADBAND DEPLOYMENT BY 
CABLE OPERATORS

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-enforces-franchising-laws-promote-broadband-deployment

WASHINGTON, August 1, 2019?The Federal Communications Commission today 
adopted new rules to promote broadband investment and deployment.  
Specifically, the Order prohibits excessive franchise fees and explains 
that local governments may not regulate most non-cable services, 
including broadband Internet access service, offered over a cable 
system.  These rules respond to a remand by the U.S. Court of Appeals 
for the Sixth Circuit and set forth how local franchising authorities 
may regulate cable operators pursuant to the Communications Act.

Under the Communications Act, every local franchising authority and 
every cable operator that offers cable service must comply with the 
Act?s cable franchising provisions, and local franchising authorities 
may charge franchise fees that are capped at five percent of a cable 
operator?s revenue derived from the provision of cable service.  But 
some local governments, through the practice of requiring ?in-kind 
contributions,? have been imposing franchise fees that exceed the five 
percent cap.  In addition to being unlawful, this practice discourages 
broadband investment, deployment, and innovation by cable operators.

In order to rein in overreach by local franchising authorities, and 
thereby facilitate the deployment of broadband infrastructure, the 
Commission concluded today that, under the Act, cable-related, 
non-monetary contributions required by a local franchise are franchise 
fees subject to the statutory five percent cap with limited exceptions, 
including an exemption for certain capital costs related to public, 
educational, and governmental access channels.

It has also prohibited, pursuant to the Act, local franchising 
authorities from regulating the provision of most non-cable services, 
including broadband Internet access service, that cable operators offer 
over their cable systems.

In addition, the Commission decided that any state or local regulation 
of a cable operator?s non-cable services that imposes obligations on 
franchised cable operators beyond what the Communications Act allows is 
preempted.

Finally, the Commission concluded that requirements concerning local 
franchising authority regulation of cable operators should apply to 
state-level franchising actions and state regulations related to local 
franchising.

Together, these rules faithfully implement the terms of the Act and 
remove obstacles to the deployment of broadband.

--------

NATOA CHALLENGES FCC DRAFT ORDER UPENDING 35 YEARS OF HISTORY AND 
THOUSANDS OF AGREEMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY

https://www.natoa.org/web/site_issue/issue_detail/84

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE (July 25, 2019) ? In anticipation of the Federal 
Communication Commission?s (FCC) August 1st vote on the Proposed Third 
Report and Order that effectively rewrites the Cable Act, the National 
Association of Telecommunications Officers and Advisors (NATOA) is 
working diligently with national associations, member attorneys, and 
local governments across the country to oppose the proposed Order.

?A week from now, the FCC will consider the proposed franchising Third 
Report and Order after months of industry meetings and filings that 
sowed seeds of misinformation and revisionist history on federal law and 
regulations dating back 35 years,? said Mike Lynch, NATOA President. 
?NATOA opposes the proposed new rules. There is no basis to re-interpret 
the Cable Act. Thousands of local franchise agreements have been 
mutually negotiated over the last 35 years. And as a result, cable 
operators have become the largest broadband service providers in the 
nation.?

This week, NATOA filed detailed ex partes (ROSENWORCEL/STARKS EX PARTE,  
PAI/CARR/ORIELLY EX PARTE,  EX PARTE LETTER FILED WITH NLC, USCM AND 
NATAT) objecting to the draft order and challenging presumptions made by 
the NCTA in their numerous ex parte filings in this proceeding over the 
last five months.  ?NATOA is grateful to our members who assisted in the 
drafting and editing of this document, and for the sustained support of 
and partnership with the United States Conference of Mayors (USCM), the 
National League of Cities (NLC), the National Association of Counties 
(NACo), and the Alliance for Community Media (ACM),? said Lynch. ?Thank 
you and thanks to our member communities, their respective legal 
counsels, and NATOA General Counsel Nancy Werner.?

While NATOA vigorously opposes the draft Third Report and Order, we are 
hopeful that if the Commission opts to move forward, they consider the 
requests of NATOA and other local government associations and 
representatives for changes to ease the impact and burden on local 
governments and PEG access centers across the country.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Aug  2 11:56:54 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 12:56:54 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC on Broadband Mapping
Message-ID: <130fdafcbb845aabfe69ef286f3186d7@1st-mile.org>

A detailed article, with links to the FCC order.   RL

--------

FCC finally orders ISPs to say exactly where they offer broadband
ISPs will have to submit geospatial maps of broadband service areas.

JON BRODKIN - 8/1/2019, 11:24 AM

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/08/the-fccs-horrible-broadband-mapping-system-is-finally-getting-an-upgrade

The Federal Communications Commission voted today to collect more 
accurate data about which parts of the US have broadband and which parts 
lack high-speed connectivity. From now on, home Internet providers will 
have to give the FCC geospatial maps of where they provide service 
instead of merely reporting which census blocks they offer service in.

(Snip)



-- 
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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From dlc at lampinc.com  Fri Aug  9 13:53:23 2019
From: dlc at lampinc.com (Dale Carstensen)
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 13:53:23 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] VICE article on "dig once"
Message-ID: <20190809205324.080A6295@lacn.los-alamos.net>


 <https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ywaz3y/this-simple-law-could-have-saved-the-us-dollar126-billion-in-broadband-deployment-costs>





From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Aug 12 09:51:32 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 10:51:32 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] A Pocket Guide to 5G Hype Fact Sheet
Message-ID: <6d61432d1484b46bba3c67f68b5614cc@1st-mile.org>

A number of NM municipalities' staff have indicated that they
are already planning 5G networks (believing the hype).


 From The ILSR:

A Pocket Guide to 5G Hype Fact Sheet

https://muninetworks.org/content/pocket-guide-5g-hype-fact-sheet




---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Aug 20 13:32:22 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 14:32:22 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Fwd: [First Mile] Free Online Courses from the
 Indigenous Connectivity Summit -- Community Networks and Policy/Advocacy
In-Reply-To: <CAJirfj5HSR4tkh0s_kcRNoD8BJ=n4_QVUbdy1ZBSVjRNa5ug-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJirfj5HSR4tkh0s_kcRNoD8BJ=n4_QVUbdy1ZBSVjRNa5ug-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <654b8380694b4732204427214f22d902@1st-mile.org>

The 2019 Indigenous Connectivity Summit will be held from
Nov. 12-15 in Hilo Hawaii.
https://www.internetsociety.org/events/indigenous-connectivity-summit/2019/

Pre-Summit courses are being offered, as noted below.

RL

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [First Mile] Free Online Courses from the Indigenous 
Connectivity Summit -- Community Networks and Policy/Advocacy
Date: 2019-08-20 13:06
 From: Rob McMahon <rdmcmaho at UALBERTA.CA>
To: FIRSTMILE at LISTSERV.UNB.CA

Greetings everyone,

Each year, the community-led Indigenous Connectivity Summit [1] brings
together Indigenous leaders, community members, community network
operators, Internet service providers, researchers and policy makers
with a common goal: connecting Indigenous communities to fast,
affordable and sustainable Internet.

In November 2019, the Indigenous Connectivity Summit (ICS) will host a
two-day conference that focuses on building partnerships, advocating
regulatory changes, and sharing success stories of community networks
across North America.

Prior to the Summit, the ICS is offering two free, online pre-Summit
courses:

COMMUNITY NETWORKS TRAINING
Start Date: September 2, 2019
Duration: 8 weeks
Weekly Commitment: 2-3 hours
Onsite Training Days: November 14-15, 2019, Waimanalo, Oahu
What?s included: Weekly webinars with experts and related resources
and a two-day, hands-on community network build at the 2019 Indigenous
Connectivity Summit in Hilo, Hawaii.

POLICY AND ADVOCACY TRAINING
Start date: September 16, 2019
Duration: 6 weeks
Weekly Commitment: 2-3 hours per week
What?s included: _Weekly webinars with experts and related resources._

For more information on these courses, and to register, please visit the
ICS 2019 Training page [2].

Rob

-- 

Associate Professor
Communications and Technology Graduate Program
University of Alberta
Faculty of Extension
Phone: 780-248-1110
Email: rob.mcmahon at ualberta.ca
http://firstmile.ca

The University of Alberta is located in
???????????? (Amiskwac?w?skahikan) on Treaty 6
territory, traditional lands of First Nations and M?tis people.

Links:
------
[1] 
https://www.internetsociety.org/events/indigenous-connectivity-summit/2019/
[2] 
https://www.internetsociety.org/events/indigenous-connectivity-summit/2019/trainings/


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From john at citylinkfiber.com  Fri Aug 23 09:42:52 2019
From: john at citylinkfiber.com (John Brown)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:42:52 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC Rules against electric utility for unlawfully
	denying pole access
Message-ID: <CAH_b1v5cENY+hNVDv2pvS23+rBm1tiuAYQXQ58rS0yBPLoUC4A@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.dwt.com/insights/2019/08/maw-vs-ppl-fcc-ruling



-- 
Respectfully,

John Brown, CISSP
Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC


From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Aug 23 10:39:30 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 11:39:30 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] COMMISSIONER GEOFFREY STARKS VISITS NEW MEXICO TRIBAL
 COMMUNITIES TO LEARN ABOUT BROADBAND CHALLENGES
Message-ID: <7dd0c0b26839b2478999c92fa5d821e4@1st-mile.org>


https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-359140A1.pdf

COMMISSIONER GEOFFREY STARKS VISITS NEW MEXICO TRIBAL COMMUNITIES TO 
LEARN ABOUT BROADBAND CHALLENGES

This PR .pdf includes a number of good group photos from this
fact-finding trip.

RL


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Aug 27 16:01:04 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 17:01:04 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] NTIA Partners with Local Leaders to Roll-out
 Broadband Workshops in Six States
Message-ID: <947d821dc8b109dafa90e8be44995bf5@1st-mile.org>

NTIA Partners with Local Leaders to Roll-out Broadband Workshops in Six 
States.  Below are the Nov. dates in NM.   Stay tuned for updates.

NTIA is working with local leaders to offer rural broadband workshops 
across the country. Workshops are planned in Oregon, Washington, Nevada, 
Wyoming, Mississippi, and New Mexico. The programs are designed for 
local broadband stakeholders to learn about digital applications, 
broadband solutions, and federal and state grant and loan programs. The 
workshops will focus on local resources, tools, and action plans.

NTIA is pleased to be able to create these workshops in partnership with 
USDA, local state broadband leaders, and, in some cases, university 
extension offices. Join us for an upcoming workshop!

?         Las Cruces NM November 13th; Registration open soon

?         Albuquerque NM November 14th; Registration open soon

?         Albuquerque NM November 15th; Registration open soon

For more information, see NTIA?s BroadbandUSA Events.
https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/event



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From john at citylinkfiber.com  Tue Aug 27 19:17:42 2019
From: john at citylinkfiber.com (John Brown)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:17:42 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
Message-ID: <CAH_b1v43z27EVK1gmtRyjjNQDbaMy28x0+N88G3ibVubOyOBbQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/

-- 
Respectfully,

John Brown, CISSP
Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC


From doug.orr at gmail.com  Wed Aug 28 08:08:36 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:08:36 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
In-Reply-To: <CAH_b1v43z27EVK1gmtRyjjNQDbaMy28x0+N88G3ibVubOyOBbQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH_b1v43z27EVK1gmtRyjjNQDbaMy28x0+N88G3ibVubOyOBbQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE7P4Rvds3L=juo1w9=6wPV_JEQjO=E3U20kOdUg_+hGkFFj_g@mail.gmail.com>

No surprise to me. The average household is watching TV (especially the
average wsj reading household), maybe doing some low volume Twitter /
surfing.

If streaming games take off, something might change but there has been a
general confusion between what *could* happen (vr, ar, immersive gaming,
massive iot) and what's *likely* to happen (tv). Which all ties into what
people are willing to pay extra for (nothing).

Once Chattanooga produces something so novel people want to move there to
bathe in the glory of high bandwidth, I'll be more open to the idea. Or
Korea.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 8:18 PM John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com> wrote:

> https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/
>
> --
> Respectfully,
>
> John Brown, CISSP
> Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC
> _______________________________________________
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From blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com  Wed Aug 28 08:25:33 2019
From: blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com (Doug Dawson)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:25:33 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
In-Reply-To: <CAH_b1v43z27EVK1gmtRyjjNQDbaMy28x0+N88G3ibVubOyOBbQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <ca8105190c9b406fb12945a073d94ed1@MBX13C-ORD1.mex06.mlsrvr.com>

This is a topic I've been giving a lot of thought to lately, because this seem to be one of the new arguments that opponents of funding rural broadband are now using.

It takes pages to write a full response to the question (and luckily for me I have a blog where I can do that), but here are a few ideas that are part of the response to refute this concept:
- 2/3 of the broadband customers in the country are now served by the big cable companies, and those companies all now have set the minimum speeds of broadband for new customers between 100 Mbps and 200 Mbps. They didn't do this in a vacuum and the big companies unilaterally increase speeds every 3-5 years as a way to cut down on customer complaints about speed. I think there is a strong argument that these companies have established the 'market' speeds that customers want. Nobody made the cable companies increase speeds and this is one of those examples of the marketplace at work. 
- Like with everything in this world, the users of broadband run the gamut on the spectrum from homes that barely use it to homes that will use everything they can get. It's really easy to talk to folks along the bottom half of that spectrum and assume that homes don't need faster speeds. This raises the really interesting policy question: do you set speeds based upon the average customer, upon the 10% biggest users, or something else? There is no automatic answer to that question, although I point to the answer above where the cable companies seem to have decided to cater to the top half of the spectrum. 
- There is a huge difference in homes with school-age students and those without. In my opinion any discussion of the right amount of bandwidth needs to consider homes with students - other homes just come along for the ride. 
- We know that the need for bandwidth and speed increases every year. If the policy is to build broadband that takes care of today's needs, such a network will be inadequate in five years and obsolete in ten years. 

Doug Dawson
President
CCG Consulting
202 255-7689 

Check out my blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of John Brown
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:18 PM
To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?

https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/

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John Brown, CISSP
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From doug.orr at gmail.com  Wed Aug 28 11:58:19 2019
From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:58:19 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
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Hey Doug,

(a) Did broadband companies raise endpoint bandwidth and upgrade all their
other junk with the expectation that there would be significant uptick in
usage...or did they raise endpoint speeds, meaning they can charge higher
prices, and implement minimal core improvements to back it up with.

I have, for example (anecdote alert!), a house in a podunk Michigan town
(3000 population). The only provider is Charter. They used to have several
packages, all of which could stream Netflix. They switched to where the
minimum package is 40mbps for $80/mo. Way more bandwidth than I need and
way more than I'd prefer to pay. Does that sound more like forcing everyone
into a higher grade of service because they are totally going to be better
competitors and provide better service, or updating cheap endpoint gear in
order to justify price increases which offset losses from cord cutting? (Here's
an articl
<https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/charter-will-spend-less-on-cable-network-in-2019-but-charge-customers-more/>e
reporting Charter is spending less on its cable network in 2019 and
charging its customers more. Here's an article
<https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/sorry-ajit-comcast-lowered-cable-investment-despite-net-neutrality-repeal/>
saying, roughly, the same thing about Comcast [Comcast says they're
spending more on infrastructure, but, who'd know if that's right?])

(b) I agree that school aged children and young people are bigger bandwidth
users (as, I wouldn't be surprised, are children of Internet professionals
:) And the question absolutely is, as you say, who are the isps making the
network for? But, again, the question, fully, is, who are they building the
whole thing out for -- caching, peering, aggregate bandwidth... Because
it's the end-to-end performance that matters to the intensive consumers,
not the "speed test" number, and raising end to end performance is way more
expensive than giving people a faster endpoint. (Cable companies seem to be
reporting getting done with their upgrade to docsys 3.1, which all fits.
And, maybe not coincidentally, one of the big features in 3.1 is "active
queue management.") Throttling and traffic shaping can give you a whole lot
cheaper implementation than upgrading line cards.

Better numbers sound sexier. It's a marketing benefit to have higher
numbers, and it makes the bar higher for potential competitors.

I'll stick with my baseless assertion that our isps are advertising and
pricing for gamers and building and provisioning for 50 year-olds watching
Netflix :)

  Doug

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 9:32 AM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:

> This is a topic I've been giving a lot of thought to lately, because this
> seem to be one of the new arguments that opponents of funding rural
> broadband are now using.
>
> It takes pages to write a full response to the question (and luckily for
> me I have a blog where I can do that), but here are a few ideas that are
> part of the response to refute this concept:
> - 2/3 of the broadband customers in the country are now served by the big
> cable companies, and those companies all now have set the minimum speeds of
> broadband for new customers between 100 Mbps and 200 Mbps. They didn't do
> this in a vacuum and the big companies unilaterally increase speeds every
> 3-5 years as a way to cut down on customer complaints about speed. I think
> there is a strong argument that these companies have established the
> 'market' speeds that customers want. Nobody made the cable companies
> increase speeds and this is one of those examples of the marketplace at
> work.
> - Like with everything in this world, the users of broadband run the gamut
> on the spectrum from homes that barely use it to homes that will use
> everything they can get. It's really easy to talk to folks along the bottom
> half of that spectrum and assume that homes don't need faster speeds. This
> raises the really interesting policy question: do you set speeds based upon
> the average customer, upon the 10% biggest users, or something else? There
> is no automatic answer to that question, although I point to the answer
> above where the cable companies seem to have decided to cater to the top
> half of the spectrum.
> - There is a huge difference in homes with school-age students and those
> without. In my opinion any discussion of the right amount of bandwidth
> needs to consider homes with students - other homes just come along for the
> ride.
> - We know that the need for bandwidth and speed increases every year. If
> the policy is to build broadband that takes care of today's needs, such a
> network will be inadequate in five years and obsolete in ten years.
>
> Doug Dawson
> President
> CCG Consulting
> 202 255-7689
>
> Check out my blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of John
> Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:18 PM
> To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>
> https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/
>
> --
> Respectfully,
>
> John Brown, CISSP
> Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC
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From blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com  Wed Aug 28 12:31:06 2019
From: blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com (Doug Dawson)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 19:31:06 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
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The big cable companies have unilaterally raised speeds with no changes in prices. In the most recent change I noticed one day that Charter had increased my speeds from 60/6 Mbps to 135/20 Mbps. The cable companies have done this regularly since back when the speeds were down in the 6 Mbps speed range. They may have done it before then since they started with 1-2 Mbps ? I just can?t recall.

Your Michigan situation sucks, and just means that they haven?t upgraded the network there. In urban markets they have increased speeds in various markets from 100 Mbps to 200 Mbps for the same price you are paying there.

With that said, the days of no rate increases from cable companies is in the past. Most Wall Street analysts now expect them to raised rates every year. For the last year most of them buried the increases in the cost of modems and other hidden places, but they need to raise rates to keep up with earnings expectations now that they aren?t growing by double digit new broadband customers any more.

Forcing folks off slower, older packages is certainly a quiet way to implement a rate increase. I hear they are all quietly killing the old cheap packages. That?s only going to work for them one time. Once everybody is onto the base product they?ll have to raise everybody?s rates.

I think you are massively underestimating the existing number of gamers. Estimates are that 25% of all households have at least one serious gamer. You wouldn?t get that by talking to us old farts on this web serve. Gamers can use intensive broadband. I have a friend with two teenage boys who each run 2 ? 4 games simultaneously on different streams. He had to upgrade from his 250 Mbps Verizon FiOS product!


From: Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:58 PM
To: Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
Cc: John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>; 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?

Hey Doug,

(a) Did broadband companies raise endpoint bandwidth and upgrade all their other junk with the expectation that there would be significant uptick in usage...or did they raise endpoint speeds, meaning they can charge higher prices, and implement minimal core improvements to back it up with.

I have, for example (anecdote alert!), a house in a podunk Michigan town (3000 population). The only provider is Charter. They used to have several packages, all of which could stream Netflix. They switched to where the minimum package is 40mbps for $80/mo. Way more bandwidth than I need and way more than I'd prefer to pay. Does that sound more like forcing everyone into a higher grade of service because they are totally going to be better competitors and provide better service, or updating cheap endpoint gear in order to justify price increases which offset losses from cord cutting? (Here's an articl<https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/charter-will-spend-less-on-cable-network-in-2019-but-charge-customers-more/>e reporting Charter is spending less on its cable network in 2019 and charging its customers more. Here's an article<https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/sorry-ajit-comcast-lowered-cable-investment-despite-net-neutrality-repeal/> saying, roughly, the same thing about Comcast [Comcast says they're spending more on infrastructure, but, who'd know if that's right?])

(b) I agree that school aged children and young people are bigger bandwidth users (as, I wouldn't be surprised, are children of Internet professionals :) And the question absolutely is, as you say, who are the isps making the network for? But, again, the question, fully, is, who are they building the whole thing out for -- caching, peering, aggregate bandwidth... Because it's the end-to-end performance that matters to the intensive consumers, not the "speed test" number, and raising end to end performance is way more expensive than giving people a faster endpoint. (Cable companies seem to be reporting getting done with their upgrade to docsys 3.1, which all fits. And, maybe not coincidentally, one of the big features in 3.1 is "active queue management.") Throttling and traffic shaping can give you a whole lot cheaper implementation than upgrading line cards.

Better numbers sound sexier. It's a marketing benefit to have higher numbers, and it makes the bar higher for potential competitors.

I'll stick with my baseless assertion that our isps are advertising and pricing for gamers and building and provisioning for 50 year-olds watching Netflix :)

  Doug
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 9:32 AM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com<mailto:blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>> wrote:
This is a topic I've been giving a lot of thought to lately, because this seem to be one of the new arguments that opponents of funding rural broadband are now using.

It takes pages to write a full response to the question (and luckily for me I have a blog where I can do that), but here are a few ideas that are part of the response to refute this concept:
- 2/3 of the broadband customers in the country are now served by the big cable companies, and those companies all now have set the minimum speeds of broadband for new customers between 100 Mbps and 200 Mbps. They didn't do this in a vacuum and the big companies unilaterally increase speeds every 3-5 years as a way to cut down on customer complaints about speed. I think there is a strong argument that these companies have established the 'market' speeds that customers want. Nobody made the cable companies increase speeds and this is one of those examples of the marketplace at work.
- Like with everything in this world, the users of broadband run the gamut on the spectrum from homes that barely use it to homes that will use everything they can get. It's really easy to talk to folks along the bottom half of that spectrum and assume that homes don't need faster speeds. This raises the really interesting policy question: do you set speeds based upon the average customer, upon the 10% biggest users, or something else? There is no automatic answer to that question, although I point to the answer above where the cable companies seem to have decided to cater to the top half of the spectrum.
- There is a huge difference in homes with school-age students and those without. In my opinion any discussion of the right amount of bandwidth needs to consider homes with students - other homes just come along for the ride.
- We know that the need for bandwidth and speed increases every year. If the policy is to build broadband that takes care of today's needs, such a network will be inadequate in five years and obsolete in ten years.

Doug Dawson
President
CCG Consulting
202 255-7689

Check out my blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com



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https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/

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From mharris at visgence.com  Wed Aug 28 12:43:19 2019
From: mharris at visgence.com (Michael Harris)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 13:43:19 -0600
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I don't have a WSJ subscription, so I can't RTFA, but I thought I would
chime in a couple of points:

- I've got ~30Mbps at home (WISP)
- My household streams almost *constantly* youtube, netflix and twitch
(inbound), and bandwidth seems fine
- Online gaming (non-streaming) is also fine
- Twitch streamers are upload-heavy, not necessarily download
- Cable Co. internet is heavily biased towards "download", rather than
upload. We have  60(d)/10(u) at the office from Comcast. Download is fine
for an office of 7. Upload is on the edge for the cloud-heavy work we do.
In order to get better upload, we would also have to double our download
(and pay for it). IIRC, the asymetric connection is a technical feature of
DOCIS, so maybe it's not something they cable co. can actually address...

-Michael



On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:

> The big cable companies have unilaterally raised speeds with no changes in
> prices. In the most recent change I noticed one day that Charter had
> increased my speeds from 60/6 Mbps to 135/20 Mbps. The cable companies have
> done this regularly since back when the speeds were down in the 6 Mbps
> speed range. They may have done it before then since they started with 1-2
> Mbps ? I just can?t recall.
>
>
>
> Your Michigan situation sucks, and just means that they haven?t upgraded
> the network there. In urban markets they have increased speeds in various
> markets from 100 Mbps to 200 Mbps for the same price you are paying there.
>
>
>
> With that said, the days of no rate increases from cable companies is in
> the past. Most Wall Street analysts now expect them to raised rates every
> year. For the last year most of them buried the increases in the cost of
> modems and other hidden places, but they need to raise rates to keep up
> with earnings expectations now that they aren?t growing by double digit new
> broadband customers any more.
>
>
>
> Forcing folks off slower, older packages is certainly a quiet way to
> implement a rate increase. I hear they are all quietly killing the old
> cheap packages. That?s only going to work for them one time. Once everybody
> is onto the base product they?ll have to raise everybody?s rates.
>
>
>
> I think you are massively underestimating the existing number of gamers.
> Estimates are that 25% of all households have at least one serious gamer.
> You wouldn?t get that by talking to us old farts on this web serve. Gamers
> can use intensive broadband. I have a friend with two teenage boys who each
> run 2 ? 4 games simultaneously on different streams. He had to upgrade from
> his 250 Mbps Verizon FiOS product!
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:58 PM
> *To:* Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
> *Cc:* John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>; 1st-Mile-NM <
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>
>
>
> Hey Doug,
>
>
>
> (a) Did broadband companies raise endpoint bandwidth and upgrade all their
> other junk with the expectation that there would be significant uptick in
> usage...or did they raise endpoint speeds, meaning they can charge higher
> prices, and implement minimal core improvements to back it up with.
>
>
>
> I have, for example (anecdote alert!), a house in a podunk Michigan town
> (3000 population). The only provider is Charter. They used to have several
> packages, all of which could stream Netflix. They switched to where the
> minimum package is 40mbps for $80/mo. Way more bandwidth than I need and
> way more than I'd prefer to pay. Does that sound more like forcing everyone
> into a higher grade of service because they are totally going to be better
> competitors and provide better service, or updating cheap endpoint gear in
> order to justify price increases which offset losses from cord cutting? (Here's
> an articl
> <https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/charter-will-spend-less-on-cable-network-in-2019-but-charge-customers-more/>e
> reporting Charter is spending less on its cable network in 2019 and
> charging its customers more. Here's an article
> <https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/sorry-ajit-comcast-lowered-cable-investment-despite-net-neutrality-repeal/>
> saying, roughly, the same thing about Comcast [Comcast says they're
> spending more on infrastructure, but, who'd know if that's right?])
>
>
>
> (b) I agree that school aged children and young people are bigger
> bandwidth users (as, I wouldn't be surprised, are children of Internet
> professionals :) And the question absolutely is, as you say, who are the
> isps making the network for? But, again, the question, fully, is, who are
> they building the whole thing out for -- caching, peering, aggregate
> bandwidth... Because it's the end-to-end performance that matters to the
> intensive consumers, not the "speed test" number, and raising end to end
> performance is way more expensive than giving people a faster endpoint.
> (Cable companies seem to be reporting getting done with their upgrade to
> docsys 3.1, which all fits. And, maybe not coincidentally, one of the big
> features in 3.1 is "active queue management.") Throttling and traffic
> shaping can give you a whole lot cheaper implementation than upgrading line
> cards.
>
>
>
> Better numbers sound sexier. It's a marketing benefit to have higher
> numbers, and it makes the bar higher for potential competitors.
>
>
>
> I'll stick with my baseless assertion that our isps are advertising and
> pricing for gamers and building and provisioning for 50 year-olds watching
> Netflix :)
>
>
>
>   Doug
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 9:32 AM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:
>
> This is a topic I've been giving a lot of thought to lately, because this
> seem to be one of the new arguments that opponents of funding rural
> broadband are now using.
>
> It takes pages to write a full response to the question (and luckily for
> me I have a blog where I can do that), but here are a few ideas that are
> part of the response to refute this concept:
> - 2/3 of the broadband customers in the country are now served by the big
> cable companies, and those companies all now have set the minimum speeds of
> broadband for new customers between 100 Mbps and 200 Mbps. They didn't do
> this in a vacuum and the big companies unilaterally increase speeds every
> 3-5 years as a way to cut down on customer complaints about speed. I think
> there is a strong argument that these companies have established the
> 'market' speeds that customers want. Nobody made the cable companies
> increase speeds and this is one of those examples of the marketplace at
> work.
> - Like with everything in this world, the users of broadband run the gamut
> on the spectrum from homes that barely use it to homes that will use
> everything they can get. It's really easy to talk to folks along the bottom
> half of that spectrum and assume that homes don't need faster speeds. This
> raises the really interesting policy question: do you set speeds based upon
> the average customer, upon the 10% biggest users, or something else? There
> is no automatic answer to that question, although I point to the answer
> above where the cable companies seem to have decided to cater to the top
> half of the spectrum.
> - There is a huge difference in homes with school-age students and those
> without. In my opinion any discussion of the right amount of bandwidth
> needs to consider homes with students - other homes just come along for the
> ride.
> - We know that the need for bandwidth and speed increases every year. If
> the policy is to build broadband that takes care of today's needs, such a
> network will be inadequate in five years and obsolete in ten years.
>
> Doug Dawson
> President
> CCG Consulting
> 202 255-7689
>
> Check out my blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of John
> Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:18 PM
> To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>
> https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/
>
> --
> Respectfully,
>
> John Brown, CISSP
> Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC
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From john at citylinkfiber.com  Wed Aug 28 13:25:10 2019
From: john at citylinkfiber.com (John Brown)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 14:25:10 -0600
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I think Michael just hit it on the head.
You have to BUY / PAY for more DOWNLOAD if you want reasonable UPLOAD speed.
Gamers and others really need symmetrical speeds.
DSL, GPON and DOCIS are all ASYMMETRICAL services, if you want
reasonable subscriber counts per network element.

My house (and I'm an ISP) has two heavy Netflix users, cameras, a
gamer and myself.
Typical steady state is 10-15Mb/s UPLOAD towards the net (cameras)
with some spikes for games
Typical stead state is 2 to 20Mb/s DOWNLOAD (FROM the net) (streaming).

Gamers care far more about latency and jitter as online games are
interactive realtime.

There are many economic reasons why large providers want to have
different pricing models for different users.
Simple example:

T1. costs around 400 a month.  Speed is 1.5Mbs Symmetrical. Delivered
these days using DSL technology.
DSL from CenturyLink of 1.5mb/s download and 800kBps upload is like a
tenth of that price.
The difference is that the DSL is priced cheaper, because you aren't
going to use that DSL to host a bunch of content.
If you want to host, you need to pay.  Ergo, if you want UPLOAD speed,
you need to pay more.

Think iNTEL and the old 386 / 486  vs 387 / 487 math coprocessors.  In
reality when they made the chip the
math coprocessor was already on the chip.  They just didn't connect
the power wires inside and sold a cheaper version.

Gamers need UPLOAD.  Cameras need UPLOAD   Heavy cloud users need
UPLOAD.  Big service providers know this and
want to charge MORE under the cover of you need more DOWNLOAD speed.

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:44 PM Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com> wrote:
>
> I don't have a WSJ subscription, so I can't RTFA, but I thought I would chime in a couple of points:
>
> - I've got ~30Mbps at home (WISP)
> - My household streams almost *constantly* youtube, netflix and twitch (inbound), and bandwidth seems fine
> - Online gaming (non-streaming) is also fine
> - Twitch streamers are upload-heavy, not necessarily download
> - Cable Co. internet is heavily biased towards "download", rather than upload. We have  60(d)/10(u) at the office from Comcast. Download is fine for an office of 7. Upload is on the edge for the cloud-heavy work we do. In order to get better upload, we would also have to double our download (and pay for it). IIRC, the asymetric connection is a technical feature of DOCIS, so maybe it's not something they cable co. can actually address...
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>> The big cable companies have unilaterally raised speeds with no changes in prices. In the most recent change I noticed one day that Charter had increased my speeds from 60/6 Mbps to 135/20 Mbps. The cable companies have done this regularly since back when the speeds were down in the 6 Mbps speed range. They may have done it before then since they started with 1-2 Mbps ? I just can?t recall.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your Michigan situation sucks, and just means that they haven?t upgraded the network there. In urban markets they have increased speeds in various markets from 100 Mbps to 200 Mbps for the same price you are paying there.
>>
>>
>>
>> With that said, the days of no rate increases from cable companies is in the past. Most Wall Street analysts now expect them to raised rates every year. For the last year most of them buried the increases in the cost of modems and other hidden places, but they need to raise rates to keep up with earnings expectations now that they aren?t growing by double digit new broadband customers any more.
>>
>>
>>
>> Forcing folks off slower, older packages is certainly a quiet way to implement a rate increase. I hear they are all quietly killing the old cheap packages. That?s only going to work for them one time. Once everybody is onto the base product they?ll have to raise everybody?s rates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think you are massively underestimating the existing number of gamers. Estimates are that 25% of all households have at least one serious gamer. You wouldn?t get that by talking to us old farts on this web serve. Gamers can use intensive broadband. I have a friend with two teenage boys who each run 2 ? 4 games simultaneously on different streams. He had to upgrade from his 250 Mbps Verizon FiOS product!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:58 PM
>> To: Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
>> Cc: John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>; 1st-Mile-NM <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Doug,
>>
>>
>>
>> (a) Did broadband companies raise endpoint bandwidth and upgrade all their other junk with the expectation that there would be significant uptick in usage...or did they raise endpoint speeds, meaning they can charge higher prices, and implement minimal core improvements to back it up with.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have, for example (anecdote alert!), a house in a podunk Michigan town (3000 population). The only provider is Charter. They used to have several packages, all of which could stream Netflix. They switched to where the minimum package is 40mbps for $80/mo. Way more bandwidth than I need and way more than I'd prefer to pay. Does that sound more like forcing everyone into a higher grade of service because they are totally going to be better competitors and provide better service, or updating cheap endpoint gear in order to justify price increases which offset losses from cord cutting? (Here's an article reporting Charter is spending less on its cable network in 2019 and charging its customers more. Here's an article saying, roughly, the same thing about Comcast [Comcast says they're spending more on infrastructure, but, who'd know if that's right?])
>>
>>
>>
>> (b) I agree that school aged children and young people are bigger bandwidth users (as, I wouldn't be surprised, are children of Internet professionals :) And the question absolutely is, as you say, who are the isps making the network for? But, again, the question, fully, is, who are they building the whole thing out for -- caching, peering, aggregate bandwidth... Because it's the end-to-end performance that matters to the intensive consumers, not the "speed test" number, and raising end to end performance is way more expensive than giving people a faster endpoint. (Cable companies seem to be reporting getting done with their upgrade to docsys 3.1, which all fits. And, maybe not coincidentally, one of the big features in 3.1 is "active queue management.") Throttling and traffic shaping can give you a whole lot cheaper implementation than upgrading line cards.
>>
>>
>>
>> Better numbers sound sexier. It's a marketing benefit to have higher numbers, and it makes the bar higher for potential competitors.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll stick with my baseless assertion that our isps are advertising and pricing for gamers and building and provisioning for 50 year-olds watching Netflix :)
>>
>>
>>
>>   Doug
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 9:32 AM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is a topic I've been giving a lot of thought to lately, because this seem to be one of the new arguments that opponents of funding rural broadband are now using.
>>
>> It takes pages to write a full response to the question (and luckily for me I have a blog where I can do that), but here are a few ideas that are part of the response to refute this concept:
>> - 2/3 of the broadband customers in the country are now served by the big cable companies, and those companies all now have set the minimum speeds of broadband for new customers between 100 Mbps and 200 Mbps. They didn't do this in a vacuum and the big companies unilaterally increase speeds every 3-5 years as a way to cut down on customer complaints about speed. I think there is a strong argument that these companies have established the 'market' speeds that customers want. Nobody made the cable companies increase speeds and this is one of those examples of the marketplace at work.
>> - Like with everything in this world, the users of broadband run the gamut on the spectrum from homes that barely use it to homes that will use everything they can get. It's really easy to talk to folks along the bottom half of that spectrum and assume that homes don't need faster speeds. This raises the really interesting policy question: do you set speeds based upon the average customer, upon the 10% biggest users, or something else? There is no automatic answer to that question, although I point to the answer above where the cable companies seem to have decided to cater to the top half of the spectrum.
>> - There is a huge difference in homes with school-age students and those without. In my opinion any discussion of the right amount of bandwidth needs to consider homes with students - other homes just come along for the ride.
>> - We know that the need for bandwidth and speed increases every year. If the policy is to build broadband that takes care of today's needs, such a network will be inadequate in five years and obsolete in ten years.
>>
>> Doug Dawson
>> President
>> CCG Consulting
>> 202 255-7689
>>
>> Check out my blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of John Brown
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:18 PM
>> To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>>
>> https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/
>>
>> --
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> John Brown, CISSP
>> Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC _______________________________________________
>> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
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>
>
>
> --
> Michael Harris
> --
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-- 
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Aug 28 13:28:01 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 14:28:01 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Basic Broadband for "Homes" on Tribal Lands
Message-ID: <8037ffe6bdda6cd58b204c68c6664c5f@1st-mile.org>

Today's Benton Foundation "Digital Beat":
-----

Benton Foundation, Digital Beat
Wednesday, August 28, 2019

Basic Broadband for "Homes" on Tribal Lands

One Rural Telco?s Uphill Battle to Provide Basic Broadband Services to 
Tribal Communities in Need

Article by John Badal, Sacred Wind Communications

https://www.benton.org/blog/basic-broadband-homes-tribal-lands



---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From jhill at cybermesa.com  Wed Aug 28 13:48:42 2019
From: jhill at cybermesa.com (Jane M. Hill)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 14:48:42 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
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References: <CAH_b1v43z27EVK1gmtRyjjNQDbaMy28x0+N88G3ibVubOyOBbQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Happily, one of our staff members subscribes to the WSJ. He copied the 
article, though the graphics were a bit trickier. Attached is the 
article in its entirety (with a little fudging on a couple graphics).

The article really focuses on streaming. It does address some of the 
points made on the list - as well as the concept that the cable 
companies hype bandwidth somewhat unnecessarily.

I see the desire for speed. In particular, more upload speed would 
simplify file transfers and working in the cloud - plus help with 
gaming(?). Then again, the article makes the point that we may be 
getting more than we can actually use. In two to four years, we'll all 
need more speed. Luckily, from the ISP perspective, bandwidth and the 
attendant equipment will come down in price to meet the demand.


*** Jane ***

Cyber Mesa Telecom
Santa Fe Headquarters
Tel 505-988-9200

/Local Contact Numbers/ <http://www.cybermesa.com/ContactUs.htm>



On 8/28/2019 1:43 PM, Michael Harris wrote:
> I don't have a WSJ subscription, so I can't RTFA, but I thought I 
> would chime in a couple of points:
>
> - I've got ~30Mbps at home (WISP)
> - My household streams almost *constantly* youtube, netflix and twitch 
> (inbound), and bandwidth seems fine
> - Online gaming (non-streaming) is also fine
> - Twitch streamers are upload-heavy, not necessarily download
> - Cable Co. internet is heavily biased towards "download", rather than 
> upload. We have? 60(d)/10(u) at the office from Comcast. Download is 
> fine for an office of 7. Upload is on the edge for the cloud-heavy 
> work we do. In order to get better upload, we would also have to 
> double our download (and pay for it). IIRC, the asymetric connection 
> is a technical feature of DOCIS, so maybe it's not something they 
> cable co. can actually address...
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com 
> <mailto:blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>> wrote:
>
>     The big cable companies have unilaterally raised speeds with no
>     changes in prices. In the most recent change I noticed one day
>     that Charter had increased my speeds from 60/6 Mbps to 135/20
>     Mbps. The cable companies have done this regularly since back when
>     the speeds were down in the 6 Mbps speed range. They may have done
>     it before then since they started with 1-2 Mbps ? I just can?t
>     recall.
>
>     Your Michigan situation sucks, and just means that they haven?t
>     upgraded the network there. In urban markets they have increased
>     speeds in various markets from 100 Mbps to 200 Mbps for the same
>     price you are paying there.
>
>     With that said, the days of no rate increases from cable companies
>     is in the past. Most Wall Street analysts now expect them to
>     raised rates every year. For the last year most of them buried the
>     increases in the cost of modems and other hidden places, but they
>     need to raise rates to keep up with earnings expectations now that
>     they aren?t growing by double digit new broadband customers any more.
>
>     Forcing folks off slower, older packages is certainly a quiet way
>     to implement a rate increase. I hear they are all quietly killing
>     the old cheap packages. That?s only going to work for them one
>     time. Once everybody is onto the base product they?ll have to
>     raise everybody?s rates.
>
>     I think you are massively underestimating the existing number of
>     gamers. Estimates are that 25% of all households have at least one
>     serious gamer. You wouldn?t get that by talking to us old farts on
>     this web serve. Gamers can use intensive broadband. I have a
>     friend with two teenage boys who each run 2 ? 4 games
>     simultaneously on different streams. He had to upgrade from his
>     250 Mbps Verizon FiOS product!
>
>     *From:* Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com <mailto:doug.orr at gmail.com>>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:58 PM
>     *To:* Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com
>     <mailto:blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>>
>     *Cc:* John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com
>     <mailto:john at citylinkfiber.com>>; 1st-Mile-NM
>     <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org <mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>
>     Hey Doug,
>
>     (a) Did broadband companies raise endpoint bandwidth and upgrade
>     all their other junk with the expectation that there would be
>     significant uptick in usage...or did they raise endpoint speeds,
>     meaning they can charge higher prices, and implement minimal core
>     improvements to back it up with.
>
>     I have, for example (anecdote alert!), a house in a podunk
>     Michigan town (3000 population). The only provider is Charter.
>     They used to have several packages, all of which could stream
>     Netflix. They switched to where the minimum package is 40mbps for
>     $80/mo. Way more bandwidth than I need and way more than I'd
>     prefer to pay. Does that sound more like forcing everyone into a
>     higher grade of service because they are totally going to be
>     better competitors and provide better service, or updating cheap
>     endpoint gear in order to justify price increases which offset
>     losses from cord cutting? (Here's an articl
>     <https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/charter-will-spend-less-on-cable-network-in-2019-but-charge-customers-more/>e
>     reporting Charter is spending less on its cable network in 2019
>     and charging its customers more. Here's an article
>     <https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/sorry-ajit-comcast-lowered-cable-investment-despite-net-neutrality-repeal/>
>     saying, roughly, the same thing about Comcast [Comcast says
>     they're spending more on infrastructure, but, who'd know if that's
>     right?])
>
>     (b) I agree that school aged children and young people are bigger
>     bandwidth users (as, I wouldn't be surprised, are children of
>     Internet professionals :) And the question absolutely is, as you
>     say, who are the isps making the network for? But, again, the
>     question, fully, is, who are they building the whole thing out for
>     -- caching, peering, aggregate bandwidth... Because it's the
>     end-to-end performance that matters to the intensive consumers,
>     not the "speed test" number, and raising end to end performance is
>     way more expensive than giving people a faster endpoint. (Cable
>     companies seem to be reporting getting done with their upgrade to
>     docsys 3.1, which all fits. And, maybe not coincidentally, one of
>     the big features in 3.1 is "active queue management.") Throttling
>     and traffic shaping can give you a whole lot cheaper
>     implementation than upgrading line cards.
>
>     Better numbers sound sexier. It's a marketing benefit to have
>     higher numbers, and it makes the bar higher for potential competitors.
>
>     I'll stick with my baseless assertion that our isps are
>     advertising and pricing for gamers and building and provisioning
>     for 50 year-olds watching Netflix :)
>
>     Doug
>
>     On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 9:32 AM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com
>     <mailto:blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>> wrote:
>
>         This is a topic I've been giving a lot of thought to lately,
>         because this seem to be one of the new arguments that
>         opponents of funding rural broadband are now using.
>
>         It takes pages to write a full response to the question (and
>         luckily for me I have a blog where I can do that), but here
>         are a few ideas that are part of the response to refute this
>         concept:
>         - 2/3 of the broadband customers in the country are now served
>         by the big cable companies, and those companies all now have
>         set the minimum speeds of broadband for new customers between
>         100 Mbps and 200 Mbps. They didn't do this in a vacuum and the
>         big companies unilaterally increase speeds every 3-5 years as
>         a way to cut down on customer complaints about speed. I think
>         there is a strong argument that these companies have
>         established the 'market' speeds that customers want. Nobody
>         made the cable companies increase speeds and this is one of
>         those examples of the marketplace at work.
>         - Like with everything in this world, the users of broadband
>         run the gamut on the spectrum from homes that barely use it to
>         homes that will use everything they can get. It's really easy
>         to talk to folks along the bottom half of that spectrum and
>         assume that homes don't need faster speeds. This raises the
>         really interesting policy question: do you set speeds based
>         upon the average customer, upon the 10% biggest users, or
>         something else? There is no automatic answer to that question,
>         although I point to the answer above where the cable companies
>         seem to have decided to cater to the top half of the spectrum.
>         - There is a huge difference in homes with school-age students
>         and those without. In my opinion any discussion of the right
>         amount of bandwidth needs to consider homes with students -
>         other homes just come along for the ride.
>         - We know that the need for bandwidth and speed increases
>         every year. If the policy is to build broadband that takes
>         care of today's needs, such a network will be inadequate in
>         five years and obsolete in ten years.
>
>         Doug Dawson
>         President
>         CCG Consulting
>         202 255-7689
>
>         Check out my blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com
>
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org
>         <mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org>> On Behalf Of
>         John Brown
>         Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:18 PM
>         To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>         <mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>         Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>
>         https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/
>
>         --
>         Respectfully,
>
>         John Brown, CISSP
>         Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC
>         _______________________________________________
>         1st-mile-nm mailing list
>         1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org <mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>         http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
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>         http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>
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>
>
> -- 
> Michael Harris
> --
> President, Visgence Inc.
> www.visgence.com <http://www.visgence.com/>
>
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From editorsteve at gmail.com  Wed Aug 28 15:33:57 2019
From: editorsteve at gmail.com (Steve Ross)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 18:33:57 -0400
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
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I think this article is basically on the mark. Personally, my wife and I
are bandwidth-starved -- We both do a LOT of photo and video uploading. We
have a personal cloud, as we live both in Boston and NYC and never know
when we'll need to access stuff where we are not.

The real issue is the "special cases" that are becoming less and less
special. In NJ as Verizon deployed Fios, the number of work-at-homes with
heavy bandwidth needs -- professional photographers uploading to their web
sites for clients to access, medical image users, etc -- exploded.

We're a special case. Our  NYC apartment has clean Verizon DSL (Fios is
coming up our Harlem street "soon" .... and has been for years. We're at 15
Mbps down, 8 up. Best Verizon service we can get at the moment. The Boston
place gets me 60 Mbps down, fairly consistently, from Comcast. But only 1
to 10 Mbps up -- more toward the lower end. The old coax plant is maxed out.

Both Verizon and Comcast have fiber to our MDU service room but none of it
gets to the units.

There are days when I go to campuses where I have teaching and research
connections -- Columbia, MIT, Harvard -- to feed on gigabit. We often
travel back and forth with a 4 TB hard drive in a plastic case.

I'm surprised more WSJ journalists are not handling large data files -- I
deal with random forest runs of all 6 million inhabited census blocks
combined with USGS data.




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On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Jane M. Hill <jhill at cybermesa.com> wrote:

> Happily, one of our staff members subscribes to the WSJ. He copied the
> article, though the graphics were a bit trickier. Attached is the article
> in its entirety (with a little fudging on a couple graphics).
>
> The article really focuses on streaming. It does address some of the
> points made on the list - as well as the concept that the cable companies
> hype bandwidth somewhat unnecessarily.
>
> I see the desire for speed. In particular, more upload speed would
> simplify file transfers and working in the cloud - plus help with
> gaming(?). Then again, the article makes the point that we may be getting
> more than we can actually use. In two to four years, we'll all need more
> speed. Luckily, from the ISP perspective, bandwidth and the attendant
> equipment will come down in price to meet the demand.
>
>
> *** Jane ***
>
> Cyber Mesa Telecom
> Santa Fe Headquarters
> Tel 505-988-9200
>
> *Local Contact Numbers* <http://www.cybermesa.com/ContactUs.htm>
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2019 1:43 PM, Michael Harris wrote:
>
> I don't have a WSJ subscription, so I can't RTFA, but I thought I would
> chime in a couple of points:
>
> - I've got ~30Mbps at home (WISP)
> - My household streams almost *constantly* youtube, netflix and twitch
> (inbound), and bandwidth seems fine
> - Online gaming (non-streaming) is also fine
> - Twitch streamers are upload-heavy, not necessarily download
> - Cable Co. internet is heavily biased towards "download", rather than
> upload. We have  60(d)/10(u) at the office from Comcast. Download is fine
> for an office of 7. Upload is on the edge for the cloud-heavy work we do.
> In order to get better upload, we would also have to double our download
> (and pay for it). IIRC, the asymetric connection is a technical feature of
> DOCIS, so maybe it's not something they cable co. can actually address...
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The big cable companies have unilaterally raised speeds with no changes
>> in prices. In the most recent change I noticed one day that Charter had
>> increased my speeds from 60/6 Mbps to 135/20 Mbps. The cable companies have
>> done this regularly since back when the speeds were down in the 6 Mbps
>> speed range. They may have done it before then since they started with 1-2
>> Mbps ? I just can?t recall.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your Michigan situation sucks, and just means that they haven?t upgraded
>> the network there. In urban markets they have increased speeds in various
>> markets from 100 Mbps to 200 Mbps for the same price you are paying there.
>>
>>
>>
>> With that said, the days of no rate increases from cable companies is in
>> the past. Most Wall Street analysts now expect them to raised rates every
>> year. For the last year most of them buried the increases in the cost of
>> modems and other hidden places, but they need to raise rates to keep up
>> with earnings expectations now that they aren?t growing by double digit new
>> broadband customers any more.
>>
>>
>>
>> Forcing folks off slower, older packages is certainly a quiet way to
>> implement a rate increase. I hear they are all quietly killing the old
>> cheap packages. That?s only going to work for them one time. Once everybody
>> is onto the base product they?ll have to raise everybody?s rates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think you are massively underestimating the existing number of gamers.
>> Estimates are that 25% of all households have at least one serious gamer.
>> You wouldn?t get that by talking to us old farts on this web serve. Gamers
>> can use intensive broadband. I have a friend with two teenage boys who each
>> run 2 ? 4 games simultaneously on different streams. He had to upgrade from
>> his 250 Mbps Verizon FiOS product!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:58 PM
>> *To:* Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
>> *Cc:* John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>; 1st-Mile-NM <
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Doug,
>>
>>
>>
>> (a) Did broadband companies raise endpoint bandwidth and upgrade all
>> their other junk with the expectation that there would be significant
>> uptick in usage...or did they raise endpoint speeds, meaning they can
>> charge higher prices, and implement minimal core improvements to back it up
>> with.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have, for example (anecdote alert!), a house in a podunk Michigan town
>> (3000 population). The only provider is Charter. They used to have several
>> packages, all of which could stream Netflix. They switched to where the
>> minimum package is 40mbps for $80/mo. Way more bandwidth than I need and
>> way more than I'd prefer to pay. Does that sound more like forcing everyone
>> into a higher grade of service because they are totally going to be better
>> competitors and provide better service, or updating cheap endpoint gear in
>> order to justify price increases which offset losses from cord cutting? (Here's
>> an articl
>> <https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/charter-will-spend-less-on-cable-network-in-2019-but-charge-customers-more/>e
>> reporting Charter is spending less on its cable network in 2019 and
>> charging its customers more. Here's an article
>> <https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/sorry-ajit-comcast-lowered-cable-investment-despite-net-neutrality-repeal/>
>> saying, roughly, the same thing about Comcast [Comcast says they're
>> spending more on infrastructure, but, who'd know if that's right?])
>>
>>
>>
>> (b) I agree that school aged children and young people are bigger
>> bandwidth users (as, I wouldn't be surprised, are children of Internet
>> professionals :) And the question absolutely is, as you say, who are the
>> isps making the network for? But, again, the question, fully, is, who are
>> they building the whole thing out for -- caching, peering, aggregate
>> bandwidth... Because it's the end-to-end performance that matters to the
>> intensive consumers, not the "speed test" number, and raising end to end
>> performance is way more expensive than giving people a faster endpoint.
>> (Cable companies seem to be reporting getting done with their upgrade to
>> docsys 3.1, which all fits. And, maybe not coincidentally, one of the big
>> features in 3.1 is "active queue management.") Throttling and traffic
>> shaping can give you a whole lot cheaper implementation than upgrading line
>> cards.
>>
>>
>>
>> Better numbers sound sexier. It's a marketing benefit to have higher
>> numbers, and it makes the bar higher for potential competitors.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll stick with my baseless assertion that our isps are advertising and
>> pricing for gamers and building and provisioning for 50 year-olds watching
>> Netflix :)
>>
>>
>>
>>   Doug
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 9:32 AM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is a topic I've been giving a lot of thought to lately, because this
>> seem to be one of the new arguments that opponents of funding rural
>> broadband are now using.
>>
>> It takes pages to write a full response to the question (and luckily for
>> me I have a blog where I can do that), but here are a few ideas that are
>> part of the response to refute this concept:
>> - 2/3 of the broadband customers in the country are now served by the big
>> cable companies, and those companies all now have set the minimum speeds of
>> broadband for new customers between 100 Mbps and 200 Mbps. They didn't do
>> this in a vacuum and the big companies unilaterally increase speeds every
>> 3-5 years as a way to cut down on customer complaints about speed. I think
>> there is a strong argument that these companies have established the
>> 'market' speeds that customers want. Nobody made the cable companies
>> increase speeds and this is one of those examples of the marketplace at
>> work.
>> - Like with everything in this world, the users of broadband run the
>> gamut on the spectrum from homes that barely use it to homes that will use
>> everything they can get. It's really easy to talk to folks along the bottom
>> half of that spectrum and assume that homes don't need faster speeds. This
>> raises the really interesting policy question: do you set speeds based upon
>> the average customer, upon the 10% biggest users, or something else? There
>> is no automatic answer to that question, although I point to the answer
>> above where the cable companies seem to have decided to cater to the top
>> half of the spectrum.
>> - There is a huge difference in homes with school-age students and those
>> without. In my opinion any discussion of the right amount of bandwidth
>> needs to consider homes with students - other homes just come along for the
>> ride.
>> - We know that the need for bandwidth and speed increases every year. If
>> the policy is to build broadband that takes care of today's needs, such a
>> network will be inadequate in five years and obsolete in ten years.
>>
>> Doug Dawson
>> President
>> CCG Consulting
>> 202 255-7689
>>
>> Check out my blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of
>> John Brown
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:18 PM
>> To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>>
>> https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/
>>
>> --
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> John Brown, CISSP
>> Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC
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From: doug.orr at gmail.com (Doug Orr)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 15:43:24 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
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FWIW, I believe that gaming could be some kind of a factor. Some big
percentage of the adult population of the country plays video games, that's
just increasing, given the size of millennials and Z's population.

That said, some big percentage of the games played (according to an article
I discovered on the internet!) are word games, candy crush and such that,
basically, old people play instead of solitaire, which consume less
bandwidth than looking at the CNN homepage. I can't find stats that purport
to sum up internet console-equivalent console usage. If anyone has a graph,
that would be interesting.

When I was in the traffic measuring business we could produce graphs. That
was back when one of  our lead researchers would do a hilarious bit about
how the University of Michigan was at the forefront of IP innovation given
the development of applications in telemedicine, distance learning, ...
Then he would show a pretty stacked graph where the primary bandwidth was
devoted to eDonkey. Big laughs.  (That was Y2k. Sound familiar? Why am I
skeptical about 5g?)

So, do one of the ISPs on the list have graphs that show how much traffic
is devoted to gaming? (They all have a ream of ports to open but I haven't
looked into it enough to see if they are the ones used for data transfer.)

Failing that, here's a report from Cisco
<https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/visual-networking-index-vni/white-paper-c11-741490.html>
that says video traffic is going from 75% to 82% of traffic 2017 to 2022.
And that gaming traffic will grow 55% CAGR from 1% to 4%.2017 to 2022. Not
big by volume.

Now, for that 4% of traffic maybe you really need 200Mbps of bandwidth and
10ms latency for the thing to work at all and maybe there are millions of
twitch players playing for an hour a day, one in every household which also
has four other members watching Netflix constantly, so the small minority
consumers still drive speeds and capacity. It's possible.

No offense, but, continue to color me skeptical that video is not still the
dominant factor in network buildouts and Netflix / youtube are not still
the dominant uses that drive bandwidth consumption. And, that gaming, while
resource intensive, is not still a minority influence on network usage and
ISP behavior. (Maybe someone has a chart that shows how much gamers spend,
total, vs other types of users?)

Core buildouts are hard and expensive. Replacing modems is easy and cheap.
Giving lots of your customers docsys3.1 is like giving them better wifi.
Upgrading to a faster 802.11 isn't going to make either netflix or call of
duty go any faster because you're limited by the smallest pipe, buried deep
within the expensive part of the intenet.

Gamers probably know what their usage is and do care about the end to end
performance. (I see some ISPs are offering gamer fast lanes now.) I will
baselessly assert that, as a group, video watchers do not. Netflix
recommends 25Mbps to get 4k video. Do you saturate a 25mbps line with one
netflix stream or do the vagaries of buffering and inter-packet delays such
that you could actually run a few, or one 4k and a bunch of phones or...
 I won't speculate because the problem is, once it gets out to the pole
it's all opaque magic and we just have to take the word of our friendly
ISPs.

(Here's a fun experiment: get a router that does traffic shaping and
throttle your aggregate down until you get to where people in your
household complain. That would be interesting...)

And, me, I have 100mbps at home because I wouldn't want to take a chance on
being unhappy and it's not that expensive. So, go figure why I'm skeptical.
I'm as bad as I think anyone else is.

Asking people on this list about their personal usage or the usage of their
friends probably won't produce very representative data. (Despite my
awesome anecdote. :) If you-all aren't premium internet users you may want
to reconsider life choices. If you have living parents and cousins in the
humanities that's probably more interesting. No, just kidding, don't tell
us about your parents. :)

  Doug


On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 4:35 PM Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this article is basically on the mark. Personally, my wife and I
> are bandwidth-starved -- We both do a LOT of photo and video uploading. We
> have a personal cloud, as we live both in Boston and NYC and never know
> when we'll need to access stuff where we are not.
>
> The real issue is the "special cases" that are becoming less and less
> special. In NJ as Verizon deployed Fios, the number of work-at-homes with
> heavy bandwidth needs -- professional photographers uploading to their web
> sites for clients to access, medical image users, etc -- exploded.
>
> We're a special case. Our  NYC apartment has clean Verizon DSL (Fios is
> coming up our Harlem street "soon" .... and has been for years. We're at 15
> Mbps down, 8 up. Best Verizon service we can get at the moment. The Boston
> place gets me 60 Mbps down, fairly consistently, from Comcast. But only 1
> to 10 Mbps up -- more toward the lower end. The old coax plant is maxed out.
>
> Both Verizon and Comcast have fiber to our MDU service room but none of it
> gets to the units.
>
> There are days when I go to campuses where I have teaching and research
> connections -- Columbia, MIT, Harvard -- to feed on gigabit. We often
> travel back and forth with a 4 TB hard drive in a plastic case.
>
> I'm surprised more WSJ journalists are not handling large data files -- I
> deal with random forest runs of all 6 million inhabited census blocks
> combined with USGS data.
>
>
>
>
> Steve Ross
> Editor-at-Large, Broadband Communities Magazine (www.bbcmag.com)
> 201-456-5933 mobile
> 707-WOW-SSR3 (707-969-7773) Google Voice
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>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM Jane M. Hill <jhill at cybermesa.com> wrote:
>
>> Happily, one of our staff members subscribes to the WSJ. He copied the
>> article, though the graphics were a bit trickier. Attached is the article
>> in its entirety (with a little fudging on a couple graphics).
>>
>> The article really focuses on streaming. It does address some of the
>> points made on the list - as well as the concept that the cable companies
>> hype bandwidth somewhat unnecessarily.
>>
>> I see the desire for speed. In particular, more upload speed would
>> simplify file transfers and working in the cloud - plus help with
>> gaming(?). Then again, the article makes the point that we may be getting
>> more than we can actually use. In two to four years, we'll all need more
>> speed. Luckily, from the ISP perspective, bandwidth and the attendant
>> equipment will come down in price to meet the demand.
>>
>>
>> *** Jane ***
>>
>> Cyber Mesa Telecom
>> Santa Fe Headquarters
>> Tel 505-988-9200
>>
>> *Local Contact Numbers* <http://www.cybermesa.com/ContactUs.htm>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/2019 1:43 PM, Michael Harris wrote:
>>
>> I don't have a WSJ subscription, so I can't RTFA, but I thought I would
>> chime in a couple of points:
>>
>> - I've got ~30Mbps at home (WISP)
>> - My household streams almost *constantly* youtube, netflix and twitch
>> (inbound), and bandwidth seems fine
>> - Online gaming (non-streaming) is also fine
>> - Twitch streamers are upload-heavy, not necessarily download
>> - Cable Co. internet is heavily biased towards "download", rather than
>> upload. We have  60(d)/10(u) at the office from Comcast. Download is fine
>> for an office of 7. Upload is on the edge for the cloud-heavy work we do.
>> In order to get better upload, we would also have to double our download
>> (and pay for it). IIRC, the asymetric connection is a technical feature of
>> DOCIS, so maybe it's not something they cable co. can actually address...
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The big cable companies have unilaterally raised speeds with no changes
>>> in prices. In the most recent change I noticed one day that Charter had
>>> increased my speeds from 60/6 Mbps to 135/20 Mbps. The cable companies have
>>> done this regularly since back when the speeds were down in the 6 Mbps
>>> speed range. They may have done it before then since they started with 1-2
>>> Mbps ? I just can?t recall.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Your Michigan situation sucks, and just means that they haven?t upgraded
>>> the network there. In urban markets they have increased speeds in various
>>> markets from 100 Mbps to 200 Mbps for the same price you are paying there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With that said, the days of no rate increases from cable companies is in
>>> the past. Most Wall Street analysts now expect them to raised rates every
>>> year. For the last year most of them buried the increases in the cost of
>>> modems and other hidden places, but they need to raise rates to keep up
>>> with earnings expectations now that they aren?t growing by double digit new
>>> broadband customers any more.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forcing folks off slower, older packages is certainly a quiet way to
>>> implement a rate increase. I hear they are all quietly killing the old
>>> cheap packages. That?s only going to work for them one time. Once everybody
>>> is onto the base product they?ll have to raise everybody?s rates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think you are massively underestimating the existing number of gamers.
>>> Estimates are that 25% of all households have at least one serious gamer.
>>> You wouldn?t get that by talking to us old farts on this web serve. Gamers
>>> can use intensive broadband. I have a friend with two teenage boys who each
>>> run 2 ? 4 games simultaneously on different streams. He had to upgrade from
>>> his 250 Mbps Verizon FiOS product!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Doug Orr <doug.orr at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:58 PM
>>> *To:* Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
>>> *Cc:* John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>; 1st-Mile-NM <
>>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Doug,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (a) Did broadband companies raise endpoint bandwidth and upgrade all
>>> their other junk with the expectation that there would be significant
>>> uptick in usage...or did they raise endpoint speeds, meaning they can
>>> charge higher prices, and implement minimal core improvements to back it up
>>> with.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have, for example (anecdote alert!), a house in a podunk Michigan town
>>> (3000 population). The only provider is Charter. They used to have several
>>> packages, all of which could stream Netflix. They switched to where the
>>> minimum package is 40mbps for $80/mo. Way more bandwidth than I need and
>>> way more than I'd prefer to pay. Does that sound more like forcing everyone
>>> into a higher grade of service because they are totally going to be better
>>> competitors and provide better service, or updating cheap endpoint gear in
>>> order to justify price increases which offset losses from cord cutting? (Here's
>>> an articl
>>> <https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/charter-will-spend-less-on-cable-network-in-2019-but-charge-customers-more/>e
>>> reporting Charter is spending less on its cable network in 2019 and
>>> charging its customers more. Here's an article
>>> <https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/01/sorry-ajit-comcast-lowered-cable-investment-despite-net-neutrality-repeal/>
>>> saying, roughly, the same thing about Comcast [Comcast says they're
>>> spending more on infrastructure, but, who'd know if that's right?])
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (b) I agree that school aged children and young people are bigger
>>> bandwidth users (as, I wouldn't be surprised, are children of Internet
>>> professionals :) And the question absolutely is, as you say, who are the
>>> isps making the network for? But, again, the question, fully, is, who are
>>> they building the whole thing out for -- caching, peering, aggregate
>>> bandwidth... Because it's the end-to-end performance that matters to the
>>> intensive consumers, not the "speed test" number, and raising end to end
>>> performance is way more expensive than giving people a faster endpoint.
>>> (Cable companies seem to be reporting getting done with their upgrade to
>>> docsys 3.1, which all fits. And, maybe not coincidentally, one of the big
>>> features in 3.1 is "active queue management.") Throttling and traffic
>>> shaping can give you a whole lot cheaper implementation than upgrading line
>>> cards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Better numbers sound sexier. It's a marketing benefit to have higher
>>> numbers, and it makes the bar higher for potential competitors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll stick with my baseless assertion that our isps are advertising and
>>> pricing for gamers and building and provisioning for 50 year-olds watching
>>> Netflix :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Doug
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 9:32 AM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a topic I've been giving a lot of thought to lately, because
>>> this seem to be one of the new arguments that opponents of funding rural
>>> broadband are now using.
>>>
>>> It takes pages to write a full response to the question (and luckily for
>>> me I have a blog where I can do that), but here are a few ideas that are
>>> part of the response to refute this concept:
>>> - 2/3 of the broadband customers in the country are now served by the
>>> big cable companies, and those companies all now have set the minimum
>>> speeds of broadband for new customers between 100 Mbps and 200 Mbps. They
>>> didn't do this in a vacuum and the big companies unilaterally increase
>>> speeds every 3-5 years as a way to cut down on customer complaints about
>>> speed. I think there is a strong argument that these companies have
>>> established the 'market' speeds that customers want. Nobody made the cable
>>> companies increase speeds and this is one of those examples of the
>>> marketplace at work.
>>> - Like with everything in this world, the users of broadband run the
>>> gamut on the spectrum from homes that barely use it to homes that will use
>>> everything they can get. It's really easy to talk to folks along the bottom
>>> half of that spectrum and assume that homes don't need faster speeds. This
>>> raises the really interesting policy question: do you set speeds based upon
>>> the average customer, upon the 10% biggest users, or something else? There
>>> is no automatic answer to that question, although I point to the answer
>>> above where the cable companies seem to have decided to cater to the top
>>> half of the spectrum.
>>> - There is a huge difference in homes with school-age students and those
>>> without. In my opinion any discussion of the right amount of bandwidth
>>> needs to consider homes with students - other homes just come along for the
>>> ride.
>>> - We know that the need for bandwidth and speed increases every year. If
>>> the policy is to build broadband that takes care of today's needs, such a
>>> network will be inadequate in five years and obsolete in ten years.
>>>
>>> Doug Dawson
>>> President
>>> CCG Consulting
>>> 202 255-7689
>>>
>>> Check out my blog at http://potsandpansbyccg.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of
>>> John Brown
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:18 PM
>>> To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>>> Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Is Faster not always better ?
>>>
>>> https://www.wsj.com/graphics/faster-internet-not-worth-it/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> John Brown, CISSP
>>> Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC
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From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 17:13:28 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Wifi in NM State Parks
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Contractor setting up pay-for-play Wi-Fi hot spots in state parks around 
New Mexico

By Robert Nott
Sep 4, 2019

https://www.santafenewmexican.com/life/tech/contractor-setting-up-pay-for-play-wi-fi-hot-spots/article_f8f167ec-aa91-5794-b9f6-5e72819b6d87.html

(snip)

A state contractor has installed paid Wi-Fi service in the central 
ranger station and visitors center at Hyde Memorial State Park as part 
of a plan by the Energy, Minerals and Natural Resources Department to 
offer the service in up to 17 of the 34 state parks in New Mexico by 
February.

The state is not paying for the service. The contractor, Viasat Inc. of 
Carlsbad, Calif., will profit from the fees users pay to access the 
internet at state park hot spots. Those rates range from $3 per hour for 
a single user to $8 per day, or up to $50 for a family to use the 
service for up to 30 days.

So far, along with Hyde park, Viasat has installed paid Wi-Fi at 
Elephant Butte Lake State Park and the Rio Grande Nature Center State 
Park. Next in line are Ute Lake State Park and Navajo Lake State Park.

Under a five-year contract between the state and Viasat, the company 
eventually will install paid Wi-Fi at all state parks, said David 
Certain, chief of the Program Support Bureau of New Mexico State Parks.

(snip)


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From john at citylinkfiber.com  Mon Sep  9 15:36:40 2019
From: john at citylinkfiber.com (John Brown)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:36:40 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Pennsylvania becomes the 21st state to adopt state
 pole attachment rules, New Mexico should follow
Message-ID: <CAH_b1v59jYBrE1Vyify0jDYHgmk-8bM_QwL7wef5-O0tzrdNwg@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.dwt.com/insights/2019/09/pennsylvania-utility-pole-attachment-regulations

NM is visibly absent from this progressive attitude

In NM, pole attachment is still only for the very select few.
-- 
Respectfully,

John Brown, CISSP
Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC


From carroll at cagleandassociates.com  Tue Sep 10 08:24:00 2019
From: carroll at cagleandassociates.com (Carroll Cagle)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 09:24:00 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Pennsylvania becomes the 21st state to adopt
	state pole attachment rules, New Mexico should follow
In-Reply-To: <CAH_b1v59jYBrE1Vyify0jDYHgmk-8bM_QwL7wef5-O0tzrdNwg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH_b1v59jYBrE1Vyify0jDYHgmk-8bM_QwL7wef5-O0tzrdNwg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d567eb$c612e440$5238acc0$@Cagleandassociates.com>

John has again identified a key way to open pathways to telecom
entrepreneurs -- and to increase consumer choice.  

 Incumbents use often-arcane, but highly effective, limitations on pole
attachment arrangements to insure their continuing monopoly or near-monopoly
status.

Carroll Cagle

-----Original Message-----
From: 1st-mile-nm [mailto:1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org] On Behalf Of
John Brown
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 4:37 PM
To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Pennsylvania becomes the 21st state to adopt state
pole attachment rules, New Mexico should follow

https://www.dwt.com/insights/2019/09/pennsylvania-utility-pole-attachment-re
gulations

NM is visibly absent from this progressive attitude

In NM, pole attachment is still only for the very select few.
-- 
Respectfully,

John Brown, CISSP
Managing Member, CityLink Telecommunications NM, LLC
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu Sep 12 16:16:37 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:16:37 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] The State of Internet Service on Tribal Lands
Message-ID: <57458105f46f620963d20dbdc14d2b86@1st-mile.org>

Tribal Technology Assessment: The State of Internet Service on Tribal 
Lands

Log on to download the .pdf, an update of a 2009 study/paper.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3427547

Posted: 2 Aug 2019 Last revised: 16 Aug 2019

Brian Howard and Traci Morris
American Indian Policy Institute, Arizona State University

Date Written: July 27, 2019

Abstract
Access to high-speed Internet service has become an essential component 
to the nation?s economy, education, and healthcare. However, federal 
data continues to show tribal lands are the least connected areas of the 
country. AIPI launched a survey to collect information from residents of 
tribal reservations to determine what levels of Internet access they had 
and what types of devices they using to access it. The study also 
identified potential barriers to access, such as the lack of 
availability or its unaffordability for residents to purchase.

Our survey found that residents on tribal lands are predominantly using 
smart phones to access the internet, while many are also accessing it 
through public Wi-Fi or at a friend/relative?s house. However, the data 
should not be interpreted or used to defend ?mobile only? as the 
singular solution to providing internet service. In this study 50% of 
respondents stated that their internet use was limited because they did 
not have enough data in their cell phone plan. Further research is 
needed to ascertain if there are specific limitations of mobile use in 
certain situations, such as the reliability or preference of using 
mobile over hardline connections for certain activities.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Sat Sep 21 09:24:24 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2019 10:24:24 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] National Tribal Broadband Summit
Message-ID: <585228a187a30a20e511d1d70fd5c1ca@1st-mile.org>

The National Tribal Broadband Summit takes place in DC
this Mon. and Tues., Sept. 23-24.   The agenda looks like a
substantial program, and includes NM pueblos, Navajo and other
tribal participation.

https://www.benton.org/event/national-tribal-broadband-summit




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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Sep 27 10:47:14 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:47:14 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Digital Equity Act introduced in U.S. House
Message-ID: <b1e65bdcc8e6467ce0fec9a285399bac@1st-mile.org>

Representatives McNerney, Lujan and Clarke introduce Digital Equity Act 
in U.S. House

The bill, H.R. 4486, is initially sponsored by Representative Jerry 
McNerney of California; Representative Ben Ray Luj?n of New Mexico, 
Assistant House Speaker; and Representative Yvette D. Clarke of New 
York, Vice Chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

Like its Senate counterpart, introduced by Washington Senator Patty 
Murray in April, the House proposal would authorize up to $250 million a 
year in funding for state and community digital inclusion efforts. Half 
the proposed funding would support the development and implementation of 
comprehensive digital equity plans in each state. The other half would 
create an annual $125 million Digital Equity Competitive Grant Program 
to support digital inclusion projects undertaken by individual 
organizations and communities.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu Oct  3 15:14:54 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2019 16:14:54 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] NTIA Regional Meetings/Workshops in NM
Message-ID: <828b90e5823ab60053b437586bec0914@1st-mile.org>

More info will be available as we get closer to these dates
RL


Nov. 13, 2019
Southern New Mexico Rural Broadband Workshop (Sponsored by the USDA, 
NTIA, State of New Mexico), Las Cruces, NM. BroadbandUSA Speaker: Karen 
Perry

Nov. 14, 2019
Northern New Mexico Rural Broadband Workshop (Sponsored by the USDA, 
NTIA, State of New Mexico), Albuquerque, NM. BroadbandUSA Speaker: Karen 
Perry

Nov. 15, 2019
Tribal New Mexico Rural Broadband Workshop (Sponsored by the USDA, NTIA, 
State of New Mexico), Albuquerque, NM. BroadbandUSA Speaker: Karen Perry


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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Oct 14 08:49:28 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:49:28 -0600
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Benton Inst.: Libraries and Schools Join Hands to
 Connect New Mexico Pueblos
Message-ID: <b4c0c7dc79e60a1f0fc113377603e9bf@1st-mile.org>

A forthcoming case study by the ALA examines how tribal libraries and 
schools in north-central New Mexico came together to address their own 
broadband connectivity challenges. As Kimball Sekaquaptewa, now chief 
technology director at Santa Fe Indian School, said, ?If the incumbent 
providers weren?t willing to build out in our area, we were willing to 
own and operate our own internet infrastructure.?

Forming two separate consortia, tribal libraries and schools in six 
pueblos were able to aggregate their demand for broadband and build two 
60-mile fiber-optic networks. Applying together through consortia 
applications and pursuing a regional approach yielded greater results 
than operating alone. Over 90 percent of the $4.2 million project was 
funded directly by the largest  E-Rate award in the state of New Mexico 
in 2016 and the first tribal project of its kind since the FCC?s E-Rate 
modernization order in 2014.

(snip)

https://www.benton.org/blog/libraries-and-schools-join-hands-connect-new-mexico-pueblos


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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Nov  8 16:04:50 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 17:04:50 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] UTOPIA Update
Message-ID: <047033299cbeff28ef20466b6a92205b@1st-mile.org>

This list has followed the progress, ups and downs, of UTOPIA open 
access fiber project in Utah since first list postings 13 years ago.  
Here's the latest.    RL

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UTOPIA Fiber Announces Partnerships with Morgan, Utah, Idaho Falls, and 
Other Cities

November 7, 2019

http://broadbandbreakfast.com/2019/11/utopia-fiber-announces-partnerships-with-morgan-utah-idaho-falls-and-other-cities/

Exciting things are happening at UTOPIA Fiber. The network, the largest 
operational open-access network in the United States, is in a period of 
major growth and expansion.

The network has been working to get fiber extended to every home and 
business within its 11 member cities. Here is a breakdown of the some of 
the network's most noteworthy progress:

The Morgan City Council this week unanimously voted to partner with 
UTOPIA Fiber to improve internet service throughout their city. Morgan 
is a small, rural community in Utah with approximately 1,600 homes that 
will soon have better connectivity than major U.S. cities. Faster and 
more reliable internet connections will make a significant impact on 
their local businesses and community, which includes over 150 home-based 
businesses. By the end of spring 2020, it is anticipated that all 
businesses and residents in Morgan to have access to UTOPIA Fiber 
internet.

Big news for Orem: UTOPIA Fiber has completed all of the OR009 precinct. 
Now, about 250 additional homes in Orem, Utah, can sign up for the 
fastest speeds in the country.

Due to strong demand, Payson City, Utah, has decided to expedite their 
UTOPIA Fiber timeline and will see more footprints open there by the end 
of the year. Payson residents cand view UTOPIA Fiber service maps, 
build-out timelines, and information on how to sign up for services.

UTOPIA Fiber has started building in West Point, Utah, and will be able 
to service its first customers there in spring of 2020.

Layton, Utah, has also decided to expedite their timeline. Due to a 
super-fast build out, UTOPIA Fiber is well ahead of schedule and will 
complete its entire footprints in Layton by the end of 2019.

Idaho Falls Fiber in Idaho Falls, Idaho, has voted to extend its 
high-speed fiber network to the entire city. UTOPIA Fiber is the 
operational partner of Idaho Falls Fiber, and will continue to support 
their success and development.

About UTOPIA Fiber
The Utah Telecommunication Open Infrastructure Agency (UTOPIA) is a 
community-owned fiber optic network utilizing light to transfer 
information, making it the fastest communication and data transfer 
technology in use today. Created by a group of Utah cities, UTOPIA Fiber 
supports open-access and promotes competition in all telecommunication 
services. For more information, contact Kim McKinley, Chief Marketing 
Officer, UTOPIA Fiber.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Nov 13 09:12:20 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:12:20 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Truth or Consequences Broadband Meeting Today
Message-ID: <3dfde5ee59469e9d13699b7ed91f1874@1st-mile.org>

For those not in attendance, here is the agenda for today's
NTIA and NM DoIT Broadband meeting.

https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/sites/default/files/resource-files/bbusa_usda_2019workshopsouthernnm.pdf

Another such meeting will be in Albuquerque tomorrow.
R.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From mharris at visgence.com  Wed Nov 13 09:23:41 2019
From: mharris at visgence.com (Michael Harris)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:23:41 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Truth or Consequences Broadband Meeting Today
In-Reply-To: <3dfde5ee59469e9d13699b7ed91f1874@1st-mile.org>
References: <3dfde5ee59469e9d13699b7ed91f1874@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <CABhxMwZUobedN7ndxLqbP8n9nx58o3j0rNuYh3dTtN30DN0TtQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richard,

Is there another list or place to sign up to find out about these meetings
before the day that they happen?

Thanks!

-Michael

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:19 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:

> For those not in attendance, here is the agenda for today's
> NTIA and NM DoIT Broadband meeting.
>
>
> https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/sites/default/files/resource-files/bbusa_usda_2019workshopsouthernnm.pdf
>
> Another such meeting will be in Albuquerque tomorrow.
> R.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Nov 13 09:57:16 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:57:16 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Truth or Consequences Broadband Meeting Today
In-Reply-To: <CABhxMwZUobedN7ndxLqbP8n9nx58o3j0rNuYh3dTtN30DN0TtQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3dfde5ee59469e9d13699b7ed91f1874@1st-mile.org>
	<CABhxMwZUobedN7ndxLqbP8n9nx58o3j0rNuYh3dTtN30DN0TtQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d7b96d940aa6d2acaaf5a1ea20175c1b@1st-mile.org>

Michael,
Notices of this set of meetings were posted twice in recent weeks
on the 1st-mile-nm list.   Here is the previously posted NTIA link:
https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/event

RL



On 2019-11-13 10:23, Michael Harris wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Is there another list or place to sign up to find out about these
> meetings before the day that they happen?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Michael
> 
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:19 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> For those not in attendance, here is the agenda for today's
>> NTIA and NM DoIT Broadband meeting.
>> 
>> 
> https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/sites/default/files/resource-files/bbusa_usda_2019workshopsouthernnm.pdf
>> 
>> Another such meeting will be in Albuquerque tomorrow.
>> R.


---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From mharris at visgence.com  Wed Nov 13 10:09:28 2019
From: mharris at visgence.com (Michael Harris)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:09:28 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Truth or Consequences Broadband Meeting Today
In-Reply-To: <d7b96d940aa6d2acaaf5a1ea20175c1b@1st-mile.org>
References: <3dfde5ee59469e9d13699b7ed91f1874@1st-mile.org>
	<CABhxMwZUobedN7ndxLqbP8n9nx58o3j0rNuYh3dTtN30DN0TtQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<d7b96d940aa6d2acaaf5a1ea20175c1b@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <CABhxMwbN=p-7fT-eq4zkkpRss1en2oFzT0o=xTrn0pEpBbNJyA@mail.gmail.com>

Gotcha, must have missed it previously. Thanks for continuing to send these
out, maybe I'll catch the next one...

-Michael

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:57 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:

> Michael,
> Notices of this set of meetings were posted twice in recent weeks
> on the 1st-mile-nm list.   Here is the previously posted NTIA link:
> https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/event
>
> RL
>
>
>
> On 2019-11-13 10:23, Michael Harris wrote:
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > Is there another list or place to sign up to find out about these
> > meetings before the day that they happen?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Michael
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:19 AM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> For those not in attendance, here is the agenda for today's
> >> NTIA and NM DoIT Broadband meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >
> https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/sites/default/files/resource-files/bbusa_usda_2019workshopsouthernnm.pdf
> >>
> >> Another such meeting will be in Albuquerque tomorrow.
> >> R.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>


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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Thu Nov 14 07:49:44 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 08:49:44 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] New Mexico still lagging despite broadband investments
Message-ID: <42aed01a3d7c2c52df02028288553579@1st-mile.org>

I have unfortunately not been able to schedule my attending the TorC or 
ABQ broadband meetings yesterday or today.  Though much has been 
achieved, the article below reads like it could have been written almost 
ten years ago.  I think that some very different approaches to 
aggregation and innovation need to be taken, rather than steps forward 
followed by steps backward, with little coherent long-range phased 
planning and deployments from public-private partnering.  Easy to say, 
hard to do.
R.

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New Mexico still lagging despite broadband investments

By Susan Montoya Bryan | Associated Press

https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/new-mexico-still-lagging-despite-broadband-investments/article_f43f0827-df34-58f2-9a51-dec83c0a5ee9.html

ALBUQUERQUE ? More than $300 million has been funneled to New Mexico in 
recent years to boost broadband access for schools, hospitals and other 
institutions, but many rural areas remain unserved, a report says.

Legislative analysts outlined their findings in the report for state 
lawmakers, saying New Mexico lags when it comes to high-speed internet 
and efforts to address access are disjointed and scattered across 
multiple agencies.

Boosting broadband has been a long-standing challenge for New Mexico. 
Federal and state officials are hosting workshops this week in Truth or 
Consequences and Albuquerque to bring civil leaders and experts 
together.

Federal officials point to census figures that show almost 30 percent of 
New Mexico residents have no internet subscription of any type while 55 
percent of residents have a subscription such as fiber, cable or DSL at 
home.

That means nearly half the homes in New Mexico don?t currently benefit 
from a high-speed broadband connection.

Legislative analysts looked at how New Mexico compares to other states 
and territories and found it trails all but Mississippi and Puerto Rico 
in household broadband penetration. Two of New Mexico?s neighbors ? Utah 
and Colorado ? rank in the top five most connected states while Arizona 
ranked 14th.

Vince Martinez, head of the New Mexico Department of Information 
Technology, described the problem during a recent legislative meeting as 
being a ?huge issue? centered on the state?s rural nature.

?What we are attempting to do is provide broadband to 15 percent to 20 
percent of the population of the state of New Mexico that live in 85 
percent of the land mass,? he said, noting that the cost to lay fiber 
optic cable can run as high as $70,000 a mile.

Martinez estimated that broadband investments would have to be doubled 
or even tripled to meet the state?s goals. He expects to have a better 
idea about costs in the coming months.

His agency has commissioned an analysis of the needs and gaps for 
existing and future broadband deployment in the state.

The department also has been working to coordinate governmental and 
private sector stakeholders through a working group and a new advisory 
committee.

Legislative analysts have said that such communication will be key given 
the disparate and complex nature of broadband development. They also 
said in their report that New Mexico?s previous experience with similar 
groups should serve as a cautionary example of well-intentioned plans 
that lack follow-through.

Currently, New Mexico doesn?t have formalized goals or a unified 
broadband policy with respect to oversight, funding and infrastructure. 
Rather, multiple agencies claim some responsibility for different parts 
of the overall system.

Maine, Minnesota, Virginia and Washington have all created central 
authorities with strong directives to oversee statewide broadband 
activities.

Most of the money invested in New Mexico projects between 2015 and 2018 
came through federal channels. The state?s share has included 
appropriations for planning and capital projects and allocations from 
the state rural universal service fund.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Sat Nov 16 16:41:07 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 17:41:07 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] =?utf-8?q?So_the_Internet_Didn=E2=80=99t_Turn_Out_t?=
 =?utf-8?q?he_Way_We_Hoped=2E_Now_What=3F?=
Message-ID: <81e6229e4f813b08622309741177169d@1st-mile.org>

The NY Times series is quite interesting.
Chinese Internet developments especially.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/14/magazine/internet-future-dream.html

R.



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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Nov 27 13:44:32 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:44:32 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] ISOC Re: .org sale
Message-ID: <0ae7a8842c2d0da734f257cdd044cf8c@1st-mile.org>

Of interest to some on this list.   rl


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Community Webinar - PIR / Ethos Capital / Internet Society
Date: 2019-11-27 13:39
 From: Internet Society <mailer at isoc.org>
Reply-To: "Internet Society " <communityforum at isoc.org>

We recognize that the recently announced news of the sale of PIR to
Ethos Capital, has given rise to many questions from our community.

You are invited to a 30-minute webinar for all Internet Society members
this FRIDAY, 29TH NOVEMBER AT 1 PM UTC, where we will provide more
information about the sale. This will also be an opportunity to ask the
questions you have via chat.

We will explain the background and outline how this transaction will
help us build a bigger, stronger Internet for everyone.

Please register in advance of the webinar here [2]. We hope you can
attend.

Thank you.


Links:
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[1] 
http://portal.internetsociety.org/622619/bulletin/ViewSent/917af98d-24b7-4f7d-902f-92e15e4b36e4/95666f30-9f90-4bb3-ba0d-321ff8da8a79?mid=
[2] 
https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/ExtensionEvent/rsvp?EventId=af6f3e8e-5289-4d90-be7b-6040a4a1ab92


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1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Mon Dec  2 12:58:30 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:58:30 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] New Mexico has 'no formal plan' for broadband
	expansion
Message-ID: <bf774d54630c70d8e952a01986741ccd@1st-mile.org>

New Mexico has 'no formal plan' for broadband expansion

Written by Ryan Johnston
NOV 14, 2019 | STATESCOOP

https://statescoop.com/new-mexico-has-no-formal-plan-for-broadband-expansion-report/

Despite investing more than $300 million of state and federal funding to 
increase broadband connectivity over the last four years, New Mexico 
?lags behind? the rest of the nation in adoption due to a decentralized 
broadband governance structure, according to a new report from the New 
Mexico Legislative Finance Committee.

https://www.nmlegis.gov/Entity/LFC/Documents/Program_Evaluation_Reports/Program%20Evaluation%20-%20Funding,%20Oversight,%20and%20Coordination%20of%20Broadband%20Programs.pdf

The report, published Nov. 1, found that New Mexico is tied with 
Arkansas for 49th in the country in broadband adoption rates. And it 
went on to state that the New Mexico?s problem is a bureaucratic one. 
While the state has received hundreds of millions of dollars in funding 
in recent years to connect schools, hospitals and other institutions, it 
doesn?t have a centralized agency that handles broadband financing or 
installation.

Instead, broadband oversight is split among at least four agencies, 
including the Department of Information Technology, the Public School 
Facilities Authority, the state Public Regulations Commission and the 
New Mexico State Library, each of which are tasked with different 
aspects of planning and installation.

The result, according to lawmakers, is that the state has no real 
broadband plan at all.

?Currently, New Mexico does not have formalized goals or a clear, 
unified broadband policy with respect to oversight of programs, funding, 
and infrastructure,? the report says. ?This fragmented and uncoordinated 
status quo is a common theme underlying this evaluation?s findings.?

The state houses a broadband office inside DoIT, but the vast majority 
of broadband regulation in the state is codified by statute or informal 
agreements between agencies, rather than overseen by an agency with a 
mission and serving as a single point of contact. Inadequate staffing in 
DoIT?s broadband unit has prevented statewide coordination that would 
unite broadband promotion, ultimately delaying the state?s progress in 
connecting rural healthcare institutions and businesses, the report 
found.

Lawmakers did credit the state government with connecting every public 
school district, thanks to a 2015 program that utilized $49 million in 
state funding and E-Rate matching funds.

Because much of New Mexico is rural, it can be costly to build out 
individual fiber-to-the-home networks seen in other states, state Chief 
Information Officer Vince Martinez said at a recent legislative meeting, 
according to the Associated Press.

?What we are attempting to do is provide broadband to 15 percent to 20 
percent of the population of the state of New Mexico that live in 85 
percent of the land mass,? he said, and noted that fiber optic cable can 
cost as much as $70,000 per mile.

Tyler Cooper of BroadbandNow.com, a website that covers high-speed 
internet deployments, agreed that connectivity problems often require 
innovative solutions.

?It is easy to make bold claims about large scale programs like 
statewide fiber rollouts, but the devil is in the details,? Cooper told 
StateScoop. ?All too often, these initiatives get bogged down by funding 
issues, public rights of way processes, and other logistical barriers.?

To offset the costs, the legislative audit recommends that the state 
target cost-effective, last-mile networks in rural areas, rather than 
put money into a large statewide fiber rollout. A designated single 
entity that coordinates broadband funding, policy, initiatives and 
prioritizes unconnected regions should lead future installation, the 
report says, and should be authorized by 2022.

Cooper agreed that a consolidated agency would allow the state more 
flexibility in service delivery.

?I tend to agree with the report findings that New Mexico would be wise 
to consolidate its broadband programs under one agency, allowing it to 
focus on a more comprehensive infrastructure plan that takes into 
account a variety of efficient connection types (5G, fiber, cable, fixed 
wireless), implementing them in a case-by-case basis,? he said.

For now, the state is planning to host broadband workshops in a 
partnership with the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the National 
Telecommunications and Information Administration in Albuquerque and the 
city of Truth or Consequences. The workshops are designed to give 
elected officials, including tribal leaders, a look at what federal and 
state resources are available to improve access to devices or 
connectivity.

?Creative, concerted efforts are needed to close the digital divide, 
especially in a state with as much rural land as New Mexico,? Cooper 
said.



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Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From drew.einhorn at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 15:19:41 2019
From: drew.einhorn at gmail.com (Drew Einhorn)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 16:19:41 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] T-Mobile
Message-ID: <CAJ1u4k2K_0B-CNVySqt_NreW7UBrWJf=AvBOYkjNOe2zvZz=WQ@mail.gmail.com>

I saw some news article about T-Mobile enabling new frequency bands
nationally to support their 5G rollout next week. They grumbled about how
it would only support a few high dollar phones that nobody has.

But, it looks like it's having a significant effect on service for older
LTE phones. I live in a rural area with poor service at best and mostly no
service. I was at home listening to an audio stream via wifi -> cellphone
-> bluetooth headset. I got in the car and drove to Albuquerque and the
stream did not drop when I got out of wifi range. It appeared to
successfully hand off to an LTE connection, ... without dropping the audio.
There may have been signal loss covered by buffering on the phone.

Y'all remember when LTE originated as a term to describe 3G pretending to
be 4G? I'm sure we haven't seen the last of the marketing folks butchering
the language.

-- 
Drew Einhorn

On American Politics

?If this were my country,? Odile said, wrinkling her nose, ?I would not be
angry.?

?No?? Hollis asked.

?I would drink all the time. Take pill. Anything.?
         --- William Gibson, Spook Country, 2007.
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From mimcom at sw-ei.com  Mon Dec  2 15:34:37 2019
From: mimcom at sw-ei.com (Mimbres Communications)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 16:34:37 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] T-Mobile
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1u4k2K_0B-CNVySqt_NreW7UBrWJf=AvBOYkjNOe2zvZz=WQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1u4k2K_0B-CNVySqt_NreW7UBrWJf=AvBOYkjNOe2zvZz=WQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOn4WVwpU=N-zb6QmcDY9gVmnhL0kY-iKT31jBCP68=osYGuNQ@mail.gmail.com>

T-Mobile has been upgrading sites to support Band 71 (600 MHz).  Only a
handful of phones manufactured in the past 18 months or so include support
for Band 71, but Band 12 (700 Mhz) is quite widely supported.  Despite
holding license for 700 in many locations, T-Mobile had not upgraded many
of their older, more rural sites.

Several of those with which I am personally familiar had smaller panel
antennas for 1.9 GHz (PCS) and 2.1 GHz (AWS) installed.  These have been
(or are being) replaced by 8-foot high multi-band panels supporting 1.9,
2.1, 700, and 600.



On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:21 PM Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I saw some news article about T-Mobile enabling new frequency bands
> nationally to support their 5G rollout next week. They grumbled about how
> it would only support a few high dollar phones that nobody has.
>
> But, it looks like it's having a significant effect on service for older
> LTE phones. I live in a rural area with poor service at best and mostly no
> service. I was at home listening to an audio stream via wifi -> cellphone
> -> bluetooth headset. I got in the car and drove to Albuquerque and the
> stream did not drop when I got out of wifi range. It appeared to
> successfully hand off to an LTE connection, ... without dropping the audio.
> There may have been signal loss covered by buffering on the phone.
>
> Y'all remember when LTE originated as a term to describe 3G pretending to
> be 4G? I'm sure we haven't seen the last of the marketing folks butchering
> the language.
>
> --
> Drew Einhorn
>
> On American Politics
>
> ?If this were my country,? Odile said, wrinkling her nose, ?I would not be
> angry.?
>
> ?No?? Hollis asked.
>
> ?I would drink all the time. Take pill. Anything.?
>          --- William Gibson, Spook Country, 2007.
> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>


-- 

Kurt Albershardt  |  Mimbres Communications, LLC  |  575-342-0042
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From drew.einhorn at gmail.com  Mon Dec  2 16:32:16 2019
From: drew.einhorn at gmail.com (Drew Einhorn)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 17:32:16 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] T-Mobile
In-Reply-To: <CAOn4WVwpU=N-zb6QmcDY9gVmnhL0kY-iKT31jBCP68=osYGuNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1u4k2K_0B-CNVySqt_NreW7UBrWJf=AvBOYkjNOe2zvZz=WQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOn4WVwpU=N-zb6QmcDY9gVmnhL0kY-iKT31jBCP68=osYGuNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1u4k1Lu95_KZ87N0ynz6b-AgWewhWVxAxoDb0DUTXzyXFqgw@mail.gmail.com>

I believe my relatively inexpensive moto g5s plus supports 700 MHz B12, but
not 600 MHz B71. The nearest cell tower came online within the past year.
But, my phone was never able to talk to it until today.

Is there a good app that reports on the frequency capabilities of the phone
it's running on and the tower it's talking to?

I've found one called kimovil, but I believe it reports published specs not
diagnostic data from the phone.






On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:36 PM Mimbres Communications <mimcom at sw-ei.com>
wrote:

> T-Mobile has been upgrading sites to support Band 71 (600 MHz).  Only a
> handful of phones manufactured in the past 18 months or so include support
> for Band 71, but Band 12 (700 Mhz) is quite widely supported.  Despite
> holding license for 700 in many locations, T-Mobile had not upgraded many
> of their older, more rural sites.
>
> Several of those with which I am personally familiar had smaller panel
> antennas for 1.9 GHz (PCS) and 2.1 GHz (AWS) installed.  These have been
> (or are being) replaced by 8-foot high multi-band panels supporting 1.9,
> 2.1, 700, and 600.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:21 PM Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I saw some news article about T-Mobile enabling new frequency bands
>> nationally to support their 5G rollout next week. They grumbled about how
>> it would only support a few high dollar phones that nobody has.
>>
>> But, it looks like it's having a significant effect on service for older
>> LTE phones. I live in a rural area with poor service at best and mostly no
>> service. I was at home listening to an audio stream via wifi -> cellphone
>> -> bluetooth headset. I got in the car and drove to Albuquerque and the
>> stream did not drop when I got out of wifi range. It appeared to
>> successfully hand off to an LTE connection, ... without dropping the audio.
>> There may have been signal loss covered by buffering on the phone.
>>
>> Y'all remember when LTE originated as a term to describe 3G pretending to
>> be 4G? I'm sure we haven't seen the last of the marketing folks butchering
>> the language.
>>
>> --
>> Drew Einhorn
>>
>> On American Politics
>>
>> ?If this were my country,? Odile said, wrinkling her nose, ?I would not
>> be angry.?
>>
>> ?No?? Hollis asked.
>>
>> ?I would drink all the time. Take pill. Anything.?
>>          --- William Gibson, Spook Country, 2007.
>> _______________________________________________
>> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
>> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Kurt Albershardt  |  Mimbres Communications, LLC  |  575-342-0042
>
> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
>


-- 
Drew Einhorn

On American Politics

?If this were my country,? Odile said, wrinkling her nose, ?I would not be
angry.?

?No?? Hollis asked.

?I would drink all the time. Take pill. Anything.?
         --- William Gibson, Spook Country, 2007.
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From steve at preferredbusinesssolutions.biz  Mon Dec  2 17:31:42 2019
From: steve at preferredbusinesssolutions.biz (Steve Cimelli)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 18:31:42 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] T-Mobile
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1u4k1Lu95_KZ87N0ynz6b-AgWewhWVxAxoDb0DUTXzyXFqgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1u4k2K_0B-CNVySqt_NreW7UBrWJf=AvBOYkjNOe2zvZz=WQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOn4WVwpU=N-zb6QmcDY9gVmnhL0kY-iKT31jBCP68=osYGuNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ1u4k1Lu95_KZ87N0ynz6b-AgWewhWVxAxoDb0DUTXzyXFqgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B41D192-EDD3-4A5A-8BAA-E369F3E2ADB3@preferredbusinesssolutions.biz>

Drew:   

I don?t know of an app that will give you this information, but you can get a free test-drive
device and connect to it by wi-fi.

Here?s the URL to order a trial unit:    https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/free-trial <https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/free-trial>

They also show where 5G is deployed on their 5G Coverage map.
Of course distance from the transmitter will matter.

Steve  Cimelli
Preferred Business Solutions



On Dec 2, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn at gmail.com> wrote:

I believe my relatively inexpensive moto g5s plus supports 700 MHz B12, but not 600 MHz B71. The nearest cell tower came online within the past year. But, my phone was never able to talk to it until today.

Is there a good app that reports on the frequency capabilities of the phone it's running on and the tower it's talking to?

I've found one called kimovil, but I believe it reports published specs not diagnostic data from the phone.






On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:36 PM Mimbres Communications <mimcom at sw-ei.com <mailto:mimcom at sw-ei.com>> wrote:
T-Mobile has been upgrading sites to support Band 71 (600 MHz).  Only a handful of phones manufactured in the past 18 months or so include support for Band 71, but Band 12 (700 Mhz) is quite widely supported.  Despite holding license for 700 in many locations, T-Mobile had not upgraded many of their older, more rural sites.

Several of those with which I am personally familiar had smaller panel antennas for 1.9 GHz (PCS) and 2.1 GHz (AWS) installed.  These have been (or are being) replaced by 8-foot high multi-band panels supporting 1.9, 2.1, 700, and 600.



On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:21 PM Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn at gmail.com <mailto:drew.einhorn at gmail.com>> wrote:
I saw some news article about T-Mobile enabling new frequency bands nationally to support their 5G rollout next week. They grumbled about how it would only support a few high dollar phones that nobody has. 

But, it looks like it's having a significant effect on service for older LTE phones. I live in a rural area with poor service at best and mostly no service. I was at home listening to an audio stream via wifi -> cellphone -> bluetooth headset. I got in the car and drove to Albuquerque and the stream did not drop when I got out of wifi range. It appeared to successfully hand off to an LTE connection, ... without dropping the audio. There may have been signal loss covered by buffering on the phone.

Y'all remember when LTE originated as a term to describe 3G pretending to be 4G? I'm sure we haven't seen the last of the marketing folks butchering the language.

-- 
Drew Einhorn

On American Politics
?If this were my country,? Odile said, wrinkling her nose, ?I would not be angry.?
?No?? Hollis asked.
?I would drink all the time. Take pill. Anything.?
          --- William Gibson, Spook Country, 2007.
_______________________________________________
1st-mile-nm mailing list
1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org <mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm <http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm>


-- 
Kurt Albershardt  |  Mimbres Communications, LLC  |  575-342-0042
_______________________________________________
1st-mile-nm mailing list
1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org <mailto:1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm <http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm>


-- 
Drew Einhorn

On American Politics
?If this were my country,? Odile said, wrinkling her nose, ?I would not be angry.?
?No?? Hollis asked.
?I would drink all the time. Take pill. Anything.?
          --- William Gibson, Spook Country, 2007.
_______________________________________________
1st-mile-nm mailing list
1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm

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From josmon at rigozsaurus.com  Mon Dec  2 19:49:03 2019
From: josmon at rigozsaurus.com (John Osmon)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 20:49:03 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] T-Mobile
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1u4k1Lu95_KZ87N0ynz6b-AgWewhWVxAxoDb0DUTXzyXFqgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1u4k2K_0B-CNVySqt_NreW7UBrWJf=AvBOYkjNOe2zvZz=WQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOn4WVwpU=N-zb6QmcDY9gVmnhL0kY-iKT31jBCP68=osYGuNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ1u4k1Lu95_KZ87N0ynz6b-AgWewhWVxAxoDb0DUTXzyXFqgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20191203034903.GI8997@jeeves.rigozsaurus.com>

I've got Moto G6 and have been playing with an app:
   Network Cell Info Lite  ($1.99 pro version)


On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 05:32:16PM -0700, Drew Einhorn wrote:
> I believe my relatively inexpensive moto g5s plus supports 700 MHz B12, but
> not 600 MHz B71. The nearest cell tower came online within the past year.
> But, my phone was never able to talk to it until today.
> 
> Is there a good app that reports on the frequency capabilities of the phone
> it's running on and the tower it's talking to?
> 
> I've found one called kimovil, but I believe it reports published specs not
> diagnostic data from the phone.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:36 PM Mimbres Communications <mimcom at sw-ei.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > T-Mobile has been upgrading sites to support Band 71 (600 MHz).  Only a
> > handful of phones manufactured in the past 18 months or so include support
> > for Band 71, but Band 12 (700 Mhz) is quite widely supported.  Despite
> > holding license for 700 in many locations, T-Mobile had not upgraded many
> > of their older, more rural sites.
> >
> > Several of those with which I am personally familiar had smaller panel
> > antennas for 1.9 GHz (PCS) and 2.1 GHz (AWS) installed.  These have been
> > (or are being) replaced by 8-foot high multi-band panels supporting 1.9,
> > 2.1, 700, and 600.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:21 PM Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I saw some news article about T-Mobile enabling new frequency bands
> >> nationally to support their 5G rollout next week. They grumbled about how
> >> it would only support a few high dollar phones that nobody has.
> >>
> >> But, it looks like it's having a significant effect on service for older
> >> LTE phones. I live in a rural area with poor service at best and mostly no
> >> service. I was at home listening to an audio stream via wifi -> cellphone
> >> -> bluetooth headset. I got in the car and drove to Albuquerque and the
> >> stream did not drop when I got out of wifi range. It appeared to
> >> successfully hand off to an LTE connection, ... without dropping the audio.
> >> There may have been signal loss covered by buffering on the phone.
> >>
> >> Y'all remember when LTE originated as a term to describe 3G pretending to
> >> be 4G? I'm sure we haven't seen the last of the marketing folks butchering
> >> the language.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Drew Einhorn
> >>
> >> On American Politics
> >>
> >> ?If this were my country,? Odile said, wrinkling her nose, ?I would not
> >> be angry.?
> >>
> >> ?No?? Hollis asked.
> >>
> >> ?I would drink all the time. Take pill. Anything.?
> >>          --- William Gibson, Spook Country, 2007.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> >> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> >> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Kurt Albershardt  |  Mimbres Communications, LLC  |  575-342-0042
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> > 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> > http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Drew Einhorn
> 
> On American Politics
> 
> ?If this were my country,? Odile said, wrinkling her nose, ?I would not be
> angry.?
> 
> ?No?? Hollis asked.
> 
> ?I would drink all the time. Take pill. Anything.?
>          --- William Gibson, Spook Country, 2007.

> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm



From tom at jtjohnson.com  Thu Dec  5 04:16:12 2019
From: tom at jtjohnson.com (Tom Johnson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 14:16:12 +0200
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] The One-Traffic-Light Town with Some of the Fastest
 Internet in the U.S. | The New Yorker
Message-ID: <CABg8s8L1juDF6MFGAyr6p5Mjg_RTaBoHdO9Wnfa+sfveKXqX3g@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-one-traffic-light-town-with-some-of-the-fastest-internet-in-the-us
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Fri Dec 13 09:09:29 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 10:09:29 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] USDA Rural Funding 2020
Message-ID: <b9fe9ab2c106ea20900bc558a2a6d33d@1st-mile.org>

USDA to Make $550 Million in Funding Available in 2020 to Deploy 
High-Speed Broadband Internet Infrastructure in Rural America

https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2019/12/12/usda-make-550-million-funding-available-2020-deploy-high-speed

USDA will make available up to $200 million for grants, up to $200 
million for 50/50 grant/loan combinations, and up to $200 million for 
low-interest loans. The application window for this round of funding 
will open Jan. 31, 2020. Applications for all funding products will be 
accepted in the same application window, which will close no later than 
March 16, 2020.

A full description of 2020 ReConnect Pilot Program funding is available 
on page 67913 of the Dec. 12, 2019, Federal Register (PDF, 336 KB). To 
learn more about eligibility, technical assistance and recent 
announcements, visit www.usda.gov/reconnect.



---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Dec 17 11:51:49 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 12:51:49 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband Deployment on
	Tribal Lands
Message-ID: <635df1b019862054052c6a2a2d935cf0@1st-mile.org>

A recent report from the FCC's Native Nations Communications
Task Force.



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From owen at backspaces.net  Wed Dec 18 08:58:21 2019
From: owen at backspaces.net (Owen Densmore)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 09:58:21 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
 Deployment on Tribal Lands
In-Reply-To: <635df1b019862054052c6a2a2d935cf0@1st-mile.org>
References: <635df1b019862054052c6a2a2d935cf0@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <CAN_LYRkzzFzgKicLKr5HCLRvYyACeD5tY_289=CZ4dBNA4NH2A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the report. Brought up two questions:

1 - Casinos: Don't they use broadband, thus are a point of access for the
rest of the tribal lands? I realize they are typically on the boundaries,
to be close to customers, but still could be useful.

2 - Are tribal lands planning to use Elon Musk's StarLink?

https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html

   -- Owen

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org> wrote:

> A recent report from the FCC's Native Nations Communications
> Task Force.
>
>
>
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> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Wed Dec 18 10:39:51 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 11:39:51 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
 Deployment on Tribal Lands
In-Reply-To: <CAN_LYRkzzFzgKicLKr5HCLRvYyACeD5tY_289=CZ4dBNA4NH2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <635df1b019862054052c6a2a2d935cf0@1st-mile.org>
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Message-ID: <eab62c12803c5ae860fcd562fa2eec2b@1st-mile.org>

Owen,
Good to hear from you.
I'll be brief in my responses to fairly complex matters you ask about.

On 2019-12-18 09:58, Owen Densmore wrote:
> Thanks for the report. Brought up two questions:
> 
> 1 - Casinos: Don't they use broadband, thus are a point of access for
> the rest of the tribal lands? I realize they are typically on the
> boundaries, to be close to customers, but still could be useful.
> 
I'm not privy to details but assume that many, of not most tribal 
casinos
have high bandwidth fiber connections (for their networked gaming 
machines)
and specific 'commercial' contracts with service providers.

These contracts are usually very restrictive to casino services, and are
therefore not a means of 'public' provision for their very underserved
communities.

Unfortunately, equitable tribal broadband development is economically
difficult, politically contentious and only one a small part of larger
eco-social relationship issues and world-views.


> 2 - Are tribal lands planning to use Elon Musk's StarLink?
> 
> https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html
> 
Possibly.  But, we are about to experience a number of satellite 
broadband
provision services in the coming years, including Dish, which is a 
partner
in the proposed Sprint/T-Mobile merger.  There are current plans and 
approvals
for launch of at least 20,000-40,000 sats. (Environmental Impact Reports 
not
required).   The emergence of new convergent service partnerships, 
offerings,
failures and costs for a proposed society of "IDIoTS" (Intelligent 
Devices
on the Internet of Things) is worrisome.

Comments by others are appreciated.

All seasonable best,
Richard


>    -- Owen
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> A recent report from the FCC's Native Nations Communications
>> Task Force.
>> 

---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com  Mon Dec 23 00:10:21 2019
From: robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com (Robert Jacobson)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 01:10:21 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Long Haul Broadband Access
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1576699211.20489.1st-mile-nm@mailman.dcn.org>
References: <mailman.15.1576699211.20489.1st-mile-nm@mailman.dcn.org>
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Hi Richard,

I?m working with the Town of Patagonia, AZ, on its first broadband plan.

While it?s easy to see how a fiber drop and 5G transceivers can serve the majority of this 900-person community, it?s less obvious how to reach individuals beyond the immediate residential and business vicinity.  Ironically, I?m a case in point:  my new home, in the hilly region surrounding the Town, is a mile or so beyond the reach of the prospective broadband system.  I?m like Moses leading the Jews to the Promised Land, but not allowed to cross over.  More importantly, there are many residents in a similar position.  How do other locales handle the problem of citizen and business outliers?

I?m not looking forward to leaving Cox Cable, even with all its shortcomings, behind, in exchange for CenturyLink DSL.  I was blessed by the former Pacific Telesis with a DSL account in 1983, while I worked for the CA Legislature. It?s not improved one whit since its stuttering introduction back then.

Here?s to a better 2020!

  Bob

Robert Jacobson, Ph.D.
Chairman & Strategist
Atelier Tomorrow Inc.

A Non-Profit, Tax-Exempt Arizona Corporation Consulting to the Public & Non-Profit Sectors

? Regional and Corporate Innovation Management 
? Urban, Regional & State Innovation Platforms
? Emerging Technologies of Experience

Member:  Society for Experiential Graphic Design (SEGD)
Member:  Design Research Council (UK)
Corporate Member: Arizona Technology Council
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Tucson, Arizona 85745 USA

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> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 09:58:21 -0700
> From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
> To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> Cc: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
> 	Deployment on Tribal Lands
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
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> ?f?W??
+????????&???+
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 11:39:51 -0700
> From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> To: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
> Cc: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>,	1st-mile-nm
> 	<1st-mile-nm-bounces+rl=radlab.com at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
> 	Deployment on Tribal Lands
> Message-ID: <eab62c12803c5ae860fcd562fa2eec2b at 1st-mile.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> 
> Owen,
> Good to hear from you.
> I'll be brief in my responses to fairly complex matters you ask about.
> 
> On 2019-12-18 09:58, Owen Densmore wrote:
>> Thanks for the report. Brought up two questions:
>> 
>> 1 - Casinos: Don't they use broadband, thus are a point of access for
>> the rest of the tribal lands? I realize they are typically on the
>> boundaries, to be close to customers, but still could be useful.
>> 
> I'm not privy to details but assume that many, of not most tribal 
> casinos
> have high bandwidth fiber connections (for their networked gaming 
> machines)
> and specific 'commercial' contracts with service providers.
> 
> These contracts are usually very restrictive to casino services, and are
> therefore not a means of 'public' provision for their very underserved
> communities.
> 
> Unfortunately, equitable tribal broadband development is economically
> difficult, politically contentious and only one a small part of larger
> eco-social relationship issues and world-views.
> 
> 
>> 2 - Are tribal lands planning to use Elon Musk's StarLink?
>> 
>> https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html
>> 
> Possibly.  But, we are about to experience a number of satellite 
> broadband
> provision services in the coming years, including Dish, which is a 
> partner
> in the proposed Sprint/T-Mobile merger.  There are current plans and 
> approvals
> for launch of at least 20,000-40,000 sats. (Environmental Impact Reports 
> not
> required).   The emergence of new convergent service partnerships, 
> offerings,
> failures and costs for a proposed society of "IDIoTS" (Intelligent 
> Devices
> on the Internet of Things) is worrisome.
> 
> Comments by others are appreciated.
> 
> All seasonable best,
> Richard
> 
> 
>>   -- Owen
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> A recent report from the FCC's Native Nations Communications
>>> Task Force.
>>> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
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From mharris at visgence.com  Mon Dec 23 08:13:02 2019
From: mharris at visgence.com (Michael Harris)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 09:13:02 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Long Haul Broadband Access
In-Reply-To: <D87D54A0-D2B6-41D1-9DCD-FB3D1BE5B1F6@atelier-tomorrow.com>
References: <mailman.15.1576699211.20489.1st-mile-nm@mailman.dcn.org>
	<D87D54A0-D2B6-41D1-9DCD-FB3D1BE5B1F6@atelier-tomorrow.com>
Message-ID: <CABhxMwYrbptsrEpCb-qABcAOmtwT1NZhQTy9XkcLpx-SjoN8-g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Robert,

I would say that fixed wireless is probably the best option in a situation
like yours. The center of the town gets wired broadband, then you have a
few towers around connecting the neighbors further away. There are lots of
people on this list in the WISP industry who I'm sure would be happy to
help consult (myself included).

-- 
Michael Harris
--
President, Visgence Inc.
www.visgence.com

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 1:11 AM Robert Jacobson <
robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> I?m working with the Town of Patagonia, AZ, on its first broadband plan.
>
> While it?s easy to see how a fiber drop and 5G transceivers can serve the
> majority of this 900-person community, it?s less obvious how to reach
> individuals beyond the immediate residential and business vicinity.
> Ironically, I?m a case in point:  my new home, in the hilly region
> surrounding the Town, is a mile or so beyond the reach of the prospective
> broadband system.  I?m like Moses leading the Jews to the Promised Land,
> but not allowed to cross over.  More importantly, there are many residents
> in a similar position.  How do other locales handle the problem of citizen
> and business outliers?
>
> I?m not looking forward to leaving Cox Cable, even with all its
> shortcomings, behind, in exchange for CenturyLink DSL.  I was blessed by
> the former Pacific Telesis with a DSL account in 1983, while I worked for
> the CA Legislature. It?s not improved one whit since its stuttering
> introduction back then.
>
> Here?s to a better 2020!
>
>   Bob
>
> Robert Jacobson, Ph.D.
> Chairman & Strategist
> Atelier Tomorrow Inc.
>
> A Non-Profit, Tax-Exempt Arizona Corporation Consulting to the Public &
> Non-Profit Sectors
>
> ? Regional and Corporate Innovation Management
> ? Urban, Regional & State Innovation Platforms
> ? Emerging Technologies of Experience
>
> Member:  Society for Experiential Graphic Design (SEGD)
> Member:  Design Research Council (UK)
> Corporate Member: Arizona Technology Council
> Personal LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bobjacobson/
>
> 1530 Blue Ridge Road
> Tucson, Arizona 85745 USA
>
> Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
> Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com
> <robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>
>
> On Dec 18, 2019, at 1:00 PM, 1st-mile-nm-request at mailman.dcn.org wrote:
>
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> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband Deployment on
>      Tribal Lands (Owen Densmore)
>   2. Re: FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband Deployment on
>      Tribal Lands (Richard Lowenberg)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 09:58:21 -0700
> From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
> To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> Cc: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
> Deployment on Tribal Lands
> Message-ID:
> <CAN_LYRkzzFzgKicLKr5HCLRvYyACeD5tY_289=CZ4dBNA4NH2A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 11:39:51 -0700
> From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> To: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
> Cc: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>, 1st-mile-nm
> <1st-mile-nm-bounces+rl=radlab.com at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
> Deployment on Tribal Lands
> Message-ID: <eab62c12803c5ae860fcd562fa2eec2b at 1st-mile.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Owen,
> Good to hear from you.
> I'll be brief in my responses to fairly complex matters you ask about.
>
> On 2019-12-18 09:58, Owen Densmore wrote:
>
> Thanks for the report. Brought up two questions:
>
> 1 - Casinos: Don't they use broadband, thus are a point of access for
> the rest of the tribal lands? I realize they are typically on the
> boundaries, to be close to customers, but still could be useful.
>
> I'm not privy to details but assume that many, of not most tribal
> casinos
> have high bandwidth fiber connections (for their networked gaming
> machines)
> and specific 'commercial' contracts with service providers.
>
> These contracts are usually very restrictive to casino services, and are
> therefore not a means of 'public' provision for their very underserved
> communities.
>
> Unfortunately, equitable tribal broadband development is economically
> difficult, politically contentious and only one a small part of larger
> eco-social relationship issues and world-views.
>
>
> 2 - Are tribal lands planning to use Elon Musk's StarLink?
>
> https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html
>
> Possibly.  But, we are about to experience a number of satellite
> broadband
> provision services in the coming years, including Dish, which is a
> partner
> in the proposed Sprint/T-Mobile merger.  There are current plans and
> approvals
> for launch of at least 20,000-40,000 sats. (Environmental Impact Reports
> not
> required).   The emergence of new convergent service partnerships,
> offerings,
> failures and costs for a proposed society of "IDIoTS" (Intelligent
> Devices
> on the Internet of Things) is worrisome.
>
> Comments by others are appreciated.
>
> All seasonable best,
> Richard
>
>
>   -- Owen
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> wrote:
>
> A recent report from the FCC's Native Nations Communications
> Task Force.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From jbadal at sacredwindnm.com  Mon Dec 23 08:43:50 2019
From: jbadal at sacredwindnm.com (John Badal)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 16:43:50 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Long Haul Broadband Access
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Robert,

Our company uses Cambium distribution and subscriber radio equipment at 5.8Ghz and 3.65Ghz bandwidth to several thousand homes on 3200 sq miles of the Navajo Rez in NW New Mexico.  The 5.8Ghz is great for 100Mbps download LOS over short distances and the 3.65Ghz can provide 10Mbps-25Mbps over several miles LOS, with lower speeds even up to 12-15 miles. We?re seriously looking at the 2.5Ghz auction at the FCC late next year, which portends to offer 25Mbps download over even greater distances and Non-LOS. We currently provide fiber to the premise (large business and a HUD development) to our Navajo areas and are developing a larger scaled model of that hybrid system outside of our territory where we plan fiber to the premise in concentrated areas of a town, and fiber to the tower for fixed wireless at 50 - 100Mbps download to the homes that are more spread out.

Feel free to email me directly if you?d like to see what we do.

John

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From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of Michael Harris
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:13 AM
To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Long Haul Broadband Access

Hi Robert,

I would say that fixed wireless is probably the best option in a situation like yours. The center of the town gets wired broadband, then you have a few towers around connecting the neighbors further away. There are lots of people on this list in the WISP industry who I'm sure would be happy to help consult (myself included).

--
Michael Harris
--
President, Visgence Inc.
www.visgence.com<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.visgence.com%2F&data=01%7C01%7Cjbadal%40sacredwindnm.com%7C5c21b96272c047393f0c08d787c33029%7C1458a946b06346cbbe2752dbe35fba15%7C0&sdata=Zyn2hwaWnDyeJhMNu7uj3CxX7fAs7xu1qCpNcOfvOBA%3D&reserved=0>

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 1:11 AM Robert Jacobson <robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com<mailto:robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>> wrote:
Hi Richard,

I?m working with the Town of Patagonia, AZ, on its first broadband plan.

While it?s easy to see how a fiber drop and 5G transceivers can serve the majority of this 900-person community, it?s less obvious how to reach individuals beyond the immediate residential and business vicinity.  Ironically, I?m a case in point:  my new home, in the hilly region surrounding the Town, is a mile or so beyond the reach of the prospective broadband system.  I?m like Moses leading the Jews to the Promised Land, but not allowed to cross over.  More importantly, there are many residents in a similar position.  How do other locales handle the problem of citizen and business outliers?

I?m not looking forward to leaving Cox Cable, even with all its shortcomings, behind, in exchange for CenturyLink DSL.  I was blessed by the former Pacific Telesis with a DSL account in 1983, while I worked for the CA Legislature. It?s not improved one whit since its stuttering introduction back then.

Here?s to a better 2020!

  Bob

Robert Jacobson, Ph.D.
Chairman & Strategist
Atelier Tomorrow Inc.

A Non-Profit, Tax-Exempt Arizona Corporation Consulting to the Public & Non-Profit Sectors

? Regional and Corporate Innovation Management
? Urban, Regional & State Innovation Platforms
? Emerging Technologies of Experience

Member:  Society for Experiential Graphic Design (SEGD)
Member:  Design Research Council (UK)
Corporate Member: Arizona Technology Council
Personal LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bobjacobson/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkedin.com%2Fin%2Fbobjacobson%2F&data=01%7C01%7Cjbadal%40sacredwindnm.com%7C5c21b96272c047393f0c08d787c33029%7C1458a946b06346cbbe2752dbe35fba15%7C0&sdata=hXK7tqy5cTPATrK1XJpFilkOVmNJkurp95HLlxrWuUQ%3D&reserved=0>

1530 Blue Ridge Road
Tucson, Arizona 85745 USA

Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com<mailto:robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>


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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband Deployment on
     Tribal Lands (Owen Densmore)
  2. Re: FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband Deployment on
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To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 11:39:51 -0700
From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
To: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net<mailto:owen at backspaces.net>>
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Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
Deployment on Tribal Lands
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Owen,
Good to hear from you.
I'll be brief in my responses to fairly complex matters you ask about.

On 2019-12-18 09:58, Owen Densmore wrote:

Thanks for the report. Brought up two questions:

1 - Casinos: Don't they use broadband, thus are a point of access for
the rest of the tribal lands? I realize they are typically on the
boundaries, to be close to customers, but still could be useful.
I'm not privy to details but assume that many, of not most tribal
casinos
have high bandwidth fiber connections (for their networked gaming
machines)
and specific 'commercial' contracts with service providers.

These contracts are usually very restrictive to casino services, and are
therefore not a means of 'public' provision for their very underserved
communities.

Unfortunately, equitable tribal broadband development is economically
difficult, politically contentious and only one a small part of larger
eco-social relationship issues and world-views.



2 - Are tribal lands planning to use Elon Musk's StarLink?

https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.space.com%2Fspacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html&data=01%7C01%7Cjbadal%40sacredwindnm.com%7C5c21b96272c047393f0c08d787c33029%7C1458a946b06346cbbe2752dbe35fba15%7C0&sdata=KpYnygoNL4VS2kWeP9pnjkUlkOdo%2Bv7aefMtl92djBs%3D&reserved=0>
Possibly.  But, we are about to experience a number of satellite
broadband
provision services in the coming years, including Dish, which is a
partner
in the proposed Sprint/T-Mobile merger.  There are current plans and
approvals
for launch of at least 20,000-40,000 sats. (Environmental Impact Reports
not
required).   The emergence of new convergent service partnerships,
offerings,
failures and costs for a proposed society of "IDIoTS" (Intelligent
Devices
on the Internet of Things) is worrisome.

Comments by others are appreciated.

All seasonable best,
Richard



  -- Owen

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
wrote:


A recent report from the FCC's Native Nations Communications
Task Force.

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From: robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com (Robert Jacobson)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 16:04:45 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] 1st-mile-nm Digest, Vol 158, Issue 9
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Thank you, Michael and John!   I?ll look into this and absolutely chat each of you up!

Happy holidays!

Bob

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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 16:43:50 +0000
> From: John Badal <jbadal at sacredwindnm.com>
> To: Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com>, 1st-mile Nm
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> Robert,
> 
> Our company uses Cambium distribution and subscriber radio equipment at 5.8Ghz and 3.65Ghz bandwidth to several thousand homes on 3200 sq miles of the Navajo Rez in NW New Mexico.  The 5.8Ghz is great for 100Mbps download LOS over short distances and the 3.65Ghz can provide 10Mbps-25Mbps over several miles LOS, with lower speeds even up to 12-15 miles. We?re seriously looking at the 2.5Ghz auction at the FCC late next year, which portends to offer 25Mbps download over even greater distances and Non-LOS. We currently provide fiber to the premise (large business and a HUD development) to our Navajo areas and are developing a larger scaled model of that hybrid system outside of our territory where we plan fiber to the premise in concentrated areas of a town, and fiber to the tower for fixed wireless at 50 - 100Mbps download to the homes that are more spread out.
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> Feel free to email me directly if you?d like to see what we do.
> 
> John
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> From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of Michael Harris
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:13 AM
> To: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
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> Hi Robert,
> 
> I would say that fixed wireless is probably the best option in a situation like yours. The center of the town gets wired broadband, then you have a few towers around connecting the neighbors further away. There are lots of people on this list in the WISP industry who I'm sure would be happy to help consult (myself included).
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> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 1:11 AM Robert Jacobson <robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com<mailto:robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>> wrote:
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> I?m working with the Town of Patagonia, AZ, on its first broadband plan.
> 
> While it?s easy to see how a fiber drop and 5G transceivers can serve the majority of this 900-person community, it?s less obvious how to reach individuals beyond the immediate residential and business vicinity.  Ironically, I?m a case in point:  my new home, in the hilly region surrounding the Town, is a mile or so beyond the reach of the prospective broadband system.  I?m like Moses leading the Jews to the Promised Land, but not allowed to cross over.  More importantly, there are many residents in a similar position.  How do other locales handle the problem of citizen and business outliers?
> 
> I?m not looking forward to leaving Cox Cable, even with all its shortcomings, behind, in exchange for CenturyLink DSL.  I was blessed by the former Pacific Telesis with a DSL account in 1983, while I worked for the CA Legislature. It?s not improved one whit since its stuttering introduction back then.
> 
> Here?s to a better 2020!
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>  Bob
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 09:58:21 -0700
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> Owen,
> Good to hear from you.
> I'll be brief in my responses to fairly complex matters you ask about.
> 
> On 2019-12-18 09:58, Owen Densmore wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the report. Brought up two questions:
> 
> 1 - Casinos: Don't they use broadband, thus are a point of access for
> the rest of the tribal lands? I realize they are typically on the
> boundaries, to be close to customers, but still could be useful.
> I'm not privy to details but assume that many, of not most tribal
> casinos
> have high bandwidth fiber connections (for their networked gaming
> machines)
> and specific 'commercial' contracts with service providers.
> 
> These contracts are usually very restrictive to casino services, and are
> therefore not a means of 'public' provision for their very underserved
> communities.
> 
> Unfortunately, equitable tribal broadband development is economically
> difficult, politically contentious and only one a small part of larger
> eco-social relationship issues and world-views.
> 
> 
> 
> 2 - Are tribal lands planning to use Elon Musk's StarLink?
> 
> https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.space.com%2Fspacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html&data=01%7C01%7Cjbadal%40sacredwindnm.com%7C5c21b96272c047393f0c08d787c33029%7C1458a946b06346cbbe2752dbe35fba15%7C0&sdata=KpYnygoNL4VS2kWeP9pnjkUlkOdo%2Bv7aefMtl92djBs%3D&reserved=0>
> Possibly.  But, we are about to experience a number of satellite
> broadband
> provision services in the coming years, including Dish, which is a
> partner
> in the proposed Sprint/T-Mobile merger.  There are current plans and
> approvals
> for launch of at least 20,000-40,000 sats. (Environmental Impact Reports
> not
> required).   The emergence of new convergent service partnerships,
> offerings,
> failures and costs for a proposed society of "IDIoTS" (Intelligent
> Devices
> on the Internet of Things) is worrisome.
> 
> Comments by others are appreciated.
> 
> All seasonable best,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
>  -- Owen
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org<mailto:rl at 1st-mile.org>>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A recent report from the FCC's Native Nations Communications
> Task Force.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
> 1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
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From john at citylinkfiber.com  Mon Dec 23 18:03:31 2019
From: john at citylinkfiber.com (John Brown)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 19:03:31 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Long Haul Broadband Access
In-Reply-To: <D87D54A0-D2B6-41D1-9DCD-FB3D1BE5B1F6@atelier-tomorrow.com>
References: <mailman.15.1576699211.20489.1st-mile-nm@mailman.dcn.org>
	<D87D54A0-D2B6-41D1-9DCD-FB3D1BE5B1F6@atelier-tomorrow.com>
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Hi.

the last mile,  er the first mile is pretty easy to solve with todays
technology
As others have mentioned you have fiber and wireless (licensed or
unlicensed) at very affordable costs

i think a challenge that many dont look at is the cost to get to the
internet.

who will be your upstream ???

will you be redundant and to what level of redundancy (cable, cable path,
strands in a cable, equipment, etc)

how will you handle the exhaustion of IPv4 addresses in most RIR regions
today ??

What issues will you run into with CG-NAT

will you deploy IPv6 ( its not a silver bullet)

if you get IPv4 space from your upstream are you prepared for vendor lock
????

will you buy a internet connection?? or look at just buying optical
transport to a major IXP and pick up both peering and transit ??

if you nat your public facing network will you have the telemetry to solve
abuse issues, subpoena?s and such ??

a broadband plan needs to be more than just OSI layer 2 frame delivery.
 unless that is all the network is and you hope that someone else does the
OSI layer 3 packets and such



On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 01:11 Robert Jacobson <
robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> I?m working with the Town of Patagonia, AZ, on its first broadband plan.
>
> While it?s easy to see how a fiber drop and 5G transceivers can serve the
> majority of this 900-person community, it?s less obvious how to reach
> individuals beyond the immediate residential and business vicinity.
> Ironically, I?m a case in point:  my new home, in the hilly region
> surrounding the Town, is a mile or so beyond the reach of the prospective
> broadband system.  I?m like Moses leading the Jews to the Promised Land,
> but not allowed to cross over.  More importantly, there are many residents
> in a similar position.  How do other locales handle the problem of citizen
> and business outliers?
>
> I?m not looking forward to leaving Cox Cable, even with all its
> shortcomings, behind, in exchange for CenturyLink DSL.  I was blessed by
> the former Pacific Telesis with a DSL account in 1983, while I worked for
> the CA Legislature. It?s not improved one whit since its stuttering
> introduction back then.
>
> Here?s to a better 2020!
>
>   Bob
>
> Robert Jacobson, Ph.D.
> Chairman & Strategist
> Atelier Tomorrow Inc.
>
> A Non-Profit, Tax-Exempt Arizona Corporation Consulting to the Public &
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>
> Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
> Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com
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>
> On Dec 18, 2019, at 1:00 PM, 1st-mile-nm-request at mailman.dcn.org wrote:
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> To: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
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> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
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> From: Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> To: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
> Cc: 1st-mile Nm <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>, 1st-mile-nm
> <1st-mile-nm-bounces+rl=radlab.com at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] FCC: Improving and Increasing Broadband
> Deployment on Tribal Lands
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> Owen,
> Good to hear from you.
> I'll be brief in my responses to fairly complex matters you ask about.
>
> On 2019-12-18 09:58, Owen Densmore wrote:
>
> Thanks for the report. Brought up two questions:
>
> 1 - Casinos: Don't they use broadband, thus are a point of access for
> the rest of the tribal lands? I realize they are typically on the
> boundaries, to be close to customers, but still could be useful.
>
> I'm not privy to details but assume that many, of not most tribal
> casinos
> have high bandwidth fiber connections (for their networked gaming
> machines)
> and specific 'commercial' contracts with service providers.
>
> These contracts are usually very restrictive to casino services, and are
> therefore not a means of 'public' provision for their very underserved
> communities.
>
> Unfortunately, equitable tribal broadband development is economically
> difficult, politically contentious and only one a small part of larger
> eco-social relationship issues and world-views.
>
>
> 2 - Are tribal lands planning to use Elon Musk's StarLink?
>
> https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html
>
> Possibly.  But, we are about to experience a number of satellite
> broadband
> provision services in the coming years, including Dish, which is a
> partner
> in the proposed Sprint/T-Mobile merger.  There are current plans and
> approvals
> for launch of at least 20,000-40,000 sats. (Environmental Impact Reports
> not
> required).   The emergence of new convergent service partnerships,
> offerings,
> failures and costs for a proposed society of "IDIoTS" (Intelligent
> Devices
> on the Internet of Things) is worrisome.
>
> Comments by others are appreciated.
>
> All seasonable best,
> Richard
>
>
>   -- Owen
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:54 PM Richard Lowenberg <rl at 1st-mile.org>
> wrote:
>
> A recent report from the FCC's Native Nations Communications
> Task Force.
>
>
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> Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
> rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
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From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Dec 24 08:08:27 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 09:08:27 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] CentuyLink Fiber Line to Los Alamos ?
Message-ID: <5bbda835531446f32d093df184a29087@1st-mile.org>

LANL assessing environmental impacts of fiber optic line

By Scott Wyland
swyland at sfnewmexican.com
Dec 23, 2019

https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/lanl-assessing-environmental-impacts-of-fiber-optic-line/article_3d7b4710-25de-11ea-834f-ab67ee898740.html

A federal agency is assessing possible environmental impacts of a 
proposed 18-mile fiber-optic cable that would stretch from Santa Fe 
across national forest land, a canyon and up to Los Alamos National 
Laboratory.

The public has until Jan. 24 to weigh in on the National Nuclear Safety 
Administration?s draft environmental assessment for a second fiber-optic 
cable to back up the lab?s main line providing internet, data and voice 
services.

The lab?s telecommunications, which are vital to its nuclear mission and 
collaborative research, are dependent on a single fiber-optic line 
that?s susceptible to outages and other interruptions, according to an 
agency statement. The second line would provide the same level of 
service to the lab and Los Alamos County as the current line does.

This environmental assessment will be used to gather opinions, analysis 
and evidence to determine whether the agency should prepare an 
environmental impact statement or issue a finding of ?no significant 
impact.?

CenturyLink would own the line. Its new cable and supporting 
infrastructure would be installed on tracts controlled by the Bureau of 
Land Management, Department of Energy, U.S. Forest Service, Santa Fe 
County and the White Rock community.

The underground portion of the cable would originate and tie into the 
existing fiber-optic infrastructure at the Marty Sanchez Links de Santa 
Fe golf course on the southwestern edge of Santa Fe, according to the 
draft assessment.

 From there, it would run parallel to Caja del Rio Road, then continue 
alongside County Road 62 across BLM lands until reaching the Santa Fe 
National Forest. Then it would snake mostly within a forest roadbed and 
end at a vault near a power-line structure.

The cable would be strung up as an overhead line spanning White Rock 
Canyon to the lab?s property. Two steel single-pole structures would be 
installed on each side of the canyon to hold the line.

When it reaches Technical Area 71, it would be buried again and run 
alongside N.M. 4 until arriving at the fiber-optic facilities at Piedro 
Loop and Sherwood Boulevard in White Rock.

Steps would be taken to minimize impacts, including to soil, wildlife, 
vegetation or water, the assessment says. The project would be subject 
to state and federal anti-pollution rules.

Monopoles would be colored in such a way as to prevent reflective glare 
yet not be so camouflaged as to cause birds to fly into them, the 
proposal says. Crews would fix any construction-scarred landscape and 
return it to its original contours.

Construction work would create temporary impacts, such as noise, air 
pollution from trucks and equipment, and relatively minor traffic 
disruptions, the assessment said.

The underground portion would take 16 to 18 weeks to finish, and the 
aerial potion would require six to eight weeks to complete.



---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From rl at 1st-mile.org  Tue Dec 24 18:46:24 2019
From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 19:46:24 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] More info. re: Fiber Line to Los Alamos ?
In-Reply-To: <5bbda835531446f32d093df184a29087@1st-mile.org>
References: <5bbda835531446f32d093df184a29087@1st-mile.org>
Message-ID: <786577eb7c2841c4c301ad64f3d83a1f@1st-mile.org>

Additional information.

DOE: Notice Of Draft EA For Construction And Operation Of Second Fiber 
Optic Circuit Route To LANL

Submitted by Carol A. Clark on December 23, 2019
https://ladailypost.com/content/doe-notice-draft-ea-construction-and-operation-second-fiber-optic-circuit-route-lanl

DOE News:
This notice is to inform the public that the Department of Energy (DOE) 
National Nuclear Security Administration?s (NNSA) Los Alamos Field 
Office has published for public review and comment the Draft 
Environmental Assessment for the Construction and Operation of a Second 
Fiber Optic Circuit Route to Los Alamos National Laboratory (EA).

The purpose of the EA is to provide sufficient evidence and analysis for 
determining whether to prepare an Environmental Impact Statement or to 
issue a Finding of No Significant Impact.

NNSA is providing stakeholders and the public with a 30-day opportunity 
to review and comment on the draft EA (closes Jan. 24, 2020) prior to 
issuance of the final EA and decision document. The draft EA is posted 
online at https://www.energy.gov/node/4357684 .

Printed copies of the Draft EA may be requested from the NNSA Los Alamos 
Field Office NEPA Compliance Officer at the address and email listed 
below. Comments on the draft EA may be provided to NNSA by U.S. mail or 
email at the following addresses:

Mail: NNSA Los Alamos Field OfficeATTN: NEPA Compliance Officer ? Fiber 
Optic Draft EA Comments3747 West Jemez RoadLos Alamos, NM 87544
Email: NA-LA_NCO at NNSA.DOE.GOV ... Subject line: Fiber Optic Draft EA 
Comments

--------

On 2019-12-24 09:08, Richard Lowenberg wrote:
> LANL assessing environmental impacts of fiber optic line
> 
> By Scott Wyland
> swyland at sfnewmexican.com
> Dec 23, 2019
> 
> https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/lanl-assessing-environmental-impacts-of-fiber-optic-line/article_3d7b4710-25de-11ea-834f-ab67ee898740.html
> 
> A federal agency is assessing possible environmental impacts of a
> proposed 18-mile fiber-optic cable that would stretch from Santa Fe
> across national forest land, a canyon and up to Los Alamos National
> Laboratory.
> 
> The public has until Jan. 24 to weigh in on the National Nuclear
> Safety Administration?s draft environmental assessment for a second
> fiber-optic cable to back up the lab?s main line providing internet,
> data and voice services.
> 
> The lab?s telecommunications, which are vital to its nuclear mission
> and collaborative research, are dependent on a single fiber-optic line
> that?s susceptible to outages and other interruptions, according to an
> agency statement. The second line would provide the same level of
> service to the lab and Los Alamos County as the current line does.
> 
> This environmental assessment will be used to gather opinions,
> analysis and evidence to determine whether the agency should prepare
> an environmental impact statement or issue a finding of ?no
> significant impact.?
> 
> CenturyLink would own the line. Its new cable and supporting
> infrastructure would be installed on tracts controlled by the Bureau
> of Land Management, Department of Energy, U.S. Forest Service, Santa
> Fe County and the White Rock community.
> 
> The underground portion of the cable would originate and tie into the
> existing fiber-optic infrastructure at the Marty Sanchez Links de
> Santa Fe golf course on the southwestern edge of Santa Fe, according
> to the draft assessment.
> 
> From there, it would run parallel to Caja del Rio Road, then continue
> alongside County Road 62 across BLM lands until reaching the Santa Fe
> National Forest. Then it would snake mostly within a forest roadbed
> and end at a vault near a power-line structure.
> 
> The cable would be strung up as an overhead line spanning White Rock
> Canyon to the lab?s property. Two steel single-pole structures would
> be installed on each side of the canyon to hold the line.
> 
> When it reaches Technical Area 71, it would be buried again and run
> alongside N.M. 4 until arriving at the fiber-optic facilities at
> Piedro Loop and Sherwood Boulevard in White Rock.
> 
> Steps would be taken to minimize impacts, including to soil, wildlife,
> vegetation or water, the assessment says. The project would be subject
> to state and federal anti-pollution rules.
> 
> Monopoles would be colored in such a way as to prevent reflective
> glare yet not be so camouflaged as to cause birds to fly into them,
> the proposal says. Crews would fix any construction-scarred landscape
> and return it to its original contours.
> 
> Construction work would create temporary impacts, such as noise, air
> pollution from trucks and equipment, and relatively minor traffic
> disruptions, the assessment said.
> 
> The underground portion would take 16 to 18 weeks to finish, and the
> aerial potion would require six to eight weeks to complete.
> 
> 
---------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director
1st-Mile Institute     505-603-5200
Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504,
rl at 1st-mile.org     www.1st-mile.org
---------------------------------------------------------------


From robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com  Mon Dec 30 10:44:17 2019
From: robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com (Robert Jacobson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:44:17 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Wyrred
Message-ID: <C6528C1A-4183-4AD0-9EB6-FCF404B59C20@atelier-tomorrow.com>

Wondering if anyone has spoken or worked with Wyrred (https://www.wyyerd.com <https://www.wyyerd.com/>/),  which offers to closely partner with communities.  In fact, that?s its whole business model.  I was recommended to them by the Arizona Commerce Authority.  What?s been your experience?

Robert Jacobson, Ph.D.
Chairman & Strategist
Atelier Tomorrow Inc.

1530 Blue Ridge Road
Tucson, Arizona 85745 USA

Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com

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From blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com  Mon Dec 30 11:04:10 2019
From: blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com (Doug Dawson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:04:10 +0000
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Wyrred
In-Reply-To: <C6528C1A-4183-4AD0-9EB6-FCF404B59C20@atelier-tomorrow.com>
References: <C6528C1A-4183-4AD0-9EB6-FCF404B59C20@atelier-tomorrow.com>
Message-ID: <26121a6c81a74d4695ea7beda0a54d35@MBX13B-IAD3.mex06.mlsrvr.com>

I know about a large percentage of the fiber projects around the country and I?ve never heard of them. I did only a quick web search but I can?t find any communities where they?ve partnered and built ? but it might be done under a different name as part of partnerships, etc.

Their map is misleading. I live in North Carolina and they haven?t build to any of the dots their map shows in NC.

My guess is that they are new and want to build fiber. It never hurts to talk to anybody. However, I?m a bit leery that the first step they describe is for a city to inquire and they then create a local office. That sounds a bit like the first step is to hire them as a consultant. If they are in the business of building fiber, like they say, that would be their marketing expense ? but perhaps I?m being cynical and overly cautious.

Would love to hear from somebody if they are real and have built projects.

Doug Dawson

From: 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> On Behalf Of Robert Jacobson
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 1:44 PM
To: 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Wyrred

Wondering if anyone has spoken or worked with Wyrred (https://www.wyyerd.com/),  which offers to closely partner with communities.  In fact, that?s its whole business model.  I was recommended to them by the Arizona Commerce Authority.  What?s been your experience?

Robert Jacobson, Ph.D.
Chairman & Strategist
Atelier Tomorrow Inc.

1530 Blue Ridge Road
Tucson, Arizona 85745 USA

Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com<mailto:robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>

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From mharris at visgence.com  Mon Dec 30 13:16:38 2019
From: mharris at visgence.com (Michael Harris)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:16:38 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Wyrred
In-Reply-To: <26121a6c81a74d4695ea7beda0a54d35@MBX13B-IAD3.mex06.mlsrvr.com>
References: <C6528C1A-4183-4AD0-9EB6-FCF404B59C20@atelier-tomorrow.com>
	<26121a6c81a74d4695ea7beda0a54d35@MBX13B-IAD3.mex06.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <CABhxMwYOYFtXLxFUBFLdizMhmLxkx5jBpKZb3NTtyaJsxNR-vg@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Their map is misleading. I live in North Carolina and they haven?t build
> to any of the dots their map shows in NC.


The dots appear to be where they *want* to build fiber:
[image: image.png]
[image: image.png]
https://www.wyyerd.com/place/Las%20Cruces%20city,%20New%20Mexico

For example, Las Cruces, NM is a dot and Socorro, TX is a dot. They don't
seem to have an interest in Albuquerque or El Paso proper, probably because
they assume there is already coverage.

-Michael

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:05 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:

> I know about a large percentage of the fiber projects around the country
> and I?ve never heard of them. I did only a quick web search but I can?t
> find any communities where they?ve partnered and built ? but it might be
> done under a different name as part of partnerships, etc.
>
>
>
> Their map is misleading. I live in North Carolina and they haven?t build
> to any of the dots their map shows in NC.
>
>
>
> My guess is that they are new and want to build fiber. It never hurts to
> talk to anybody. However, I?m a bit leery that the first step they describe
> is for a city to inquire and they then create a local office. That sounds a
> bit like the first step is to hire them as a consultant. If they are in the
> business of building fiber, like they say, that would be their marketing
> expense ? but perhaps I?m being cynical and overly cautious.
>
>
>
> Would love to hear from somebody if they are real and have built projects.
>
>
>
> Doug Dawson
>
>
>
> *From:* 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> *On Behalf Of *Robert
> Jacobson
> *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2019 1:44 PM
> *To:* 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> *Subject:* [1st-mile-nm] Wyrred
>
>
>
> Wondering if anyone has spoken or worked with Wyrred (
> https://www.wyyerd.com/),  which offers to closely partner with
> communities.  In fact, that?s its whole business model.  I was recommended
> to them by the Arizona Commerce Authority.  What?s been your experience?
>
>
>
> Robert Jacobson, Ph.D.
> Chairman & Strategist
> Atelier Tomorrow Inc.
>
>
> 1530 Blue Ridge Road
> Tucson, Arizona 85745 USA
>
> Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
> Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com
> <robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
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>


-- 
Michael Harris
--
President, Visgence Inc.
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From robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com  Mon Dec 30 19:58:21 2019
From: robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com (Robert Jacobson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 20:58:21 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Wyyred
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Here?s Wyyred's official team bios: https://www.wyyerd.com/team <https://www.wyyerd.com/team>/.  Are they recognizable?

 Personally, I like their partnering pitch.  Without spilling beans that may be confidential, I?ll share what I learn that's more substantive.

Happy New Year to all!  May 2020 see broadband bloom, and with it a greater national regard for the power of genuine communications.

Bob Jacobson
Atelier Tomorrow Inc.
Tucson, AZ

Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bobjacobson

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> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1. Re: Wyrred (Michael Harris)
> 
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> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:16:38 -0700
> From: Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com>
> To: "1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org" <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Wyrred
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>> 
>> Their map is misleading. I live in North Carolina and they haven?t build
>> to any of the dots their map shows in NC.
> 
> 
> The dots appear to be where they *want* to build fiber:
> [image: image.png]
> [image: image.png]
> https://www.wyyerd.com/place/Las%20Cruces%20city,%20New%20Mexico
> 
> For example, Las Cruces, NM is a dot and Socorro, TX is a dot. They don't
> seem to have an interest in Albuquerque or El Paso proper, probably because
> they assume there is already coverage.
> 
> -Michael
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:05 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com> wrote:
> 
>> I know about a large percentage of the fiber projects around the country
>> and I?ve never heard of them. I did only a quick web search but I can?t
>> find any communities where they?ve partnered and built ? but it might be
>> done under a different name as part of partnerships, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Their map is misleading. I live in North Carolina and they haven?t build
>> to any of the dots their map shows in NC.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My guess is that they are new and want to build fiber. It never hurts to
>> talk to anybody. However, I?m a bit leery that the first step they describe
>> is for a city to inquire and they then create a local office. That sounds a
>> bit like the first step is to hire them as a consultant. If they are in the
>> business of building fiber, like they say, that would be their marketing
>> expense ? but perhaps I?m being cynical and overly cautious.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would love to hear from somebody if they are real and have built projects.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Doug Dawson
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> *On Behalf Of *Robert
>> Jacobson
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2019 1:44 PM
>> *To:* 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
>> *Subject:* [1st-mile-nm] Wyrred
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wondering if anyone has spoken or worked with Wyrred (
>> https://www.wyyerd.com/),  which offers to closely partner with
>> communities.  In fact, that?s its whole business model.  I was recommended
>> to them by the Arizona Commerce Authority.  What?s been your experience?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Robert Jacobson, Ph.D.
>> Chairman & Strategist
>> Atelier Tomorrow Inc.
>> 
>> 
>> 1530 Blue Ridge Road
>> Tucson, Arizona 85745 USA
>> 
>> Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
>> Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com
>> <robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>
>> 
>> 
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From mimcom at sw-ei.com  Mon Dec 30 21:20:20 2019
From: mimcom at sw-ei.com (Mimbres Communications)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 22:20:20 -0700
Subject: [1st-mile-nm] Wyyred
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Zayo, Zayo,  Zayo,  Zayo,  Zayo, and a couple of UCBoulder guys.
Interesting.

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 8:59 PM Robert Jacobson <
robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com> wrote:

>
> Here?s Wyyred's official team bios: https://www.wyyerd.com/team/.  Are
> they recognizable?
>
>  Personally, I like their partnering pitch.  Without spilling beans that
> may be confidential, I?ll share what I learn that's more substantive.
>
> Happy New Year to all!  May 2020 see broadband bloom, and with it a
> greater national regard for the power of genuine communications.
>
> Bob Jacobson
> Atelier Tomorrow Inc.
> Tucson, AZ
>
> Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
> Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com
> <robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>
> LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bobjacobson
>
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: Wyrred (Michael Harris)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:16:38 -0700
> From: Michael Harris <mharris at visgence.com>
> To: "1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org" <1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org>
> Subject: Re: [1st-mile-nm] Wyrred
> Message-ID:
> <CABhxMwYOYFtXLxFUBFLdizMhmLxkx5jBpKZb3NTtyaJsxNR-vg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
> Their map is misleading. I live in North Carolina and they haven?t build
> to any of the dots their map shows in NC.
>
>
>
> The dots appear to be where they *want* to build fiber:
> [image: image.png]
> [image: image.png]
> https://www.wyyerd.com/place/Las%20Cruces%20city,%20New%20Mexico
>
> For example, Las Cruces, NM is a dot and Socorro, TX is a dot. They don't
> seem to have an interest in Albuquerque or El Paso proper, probably because
> they assume there is already coverage.
>
> -Michael
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:05 PM Doug Dawson <blackbean2 at ccgcomm.com>
> wrote:
>
> I know about a large percentage of the fiber projects around the country
> and I?ve never heard of them. I did only a quick web search but I can?t
> find any communities where they?ve partnered and built ? but it might be
> done under a different name as part of partnerships, etc.
>
>
>
> Their map is misleading. I live in North Carolina and they haven?t build
> to any of the dots their map shows in NC.
>
>
>
> My guess is that they are new and want to build fiber. It never hurts to
> talk to anybody. However, I?m a bit leery that the first step they describe
> is for a city to inquire and they then create a local office. That sounds a
> bit like the first step is to hire them as a consultant. If they are in the
> business of building fiber, like they say, that would be their marketing
> expense ? but perhaps I?m being cynical and overly cautious.
>
>
>
> Would love to hear from somebody if they are real and have built projects.
>
>
>
> Doug Dawson
>
>
>
> *From:* 1st-mile-nm <1st-mile-nm-bounces at mailman.dcn.org> *On Behalf Of
> *Robert
> Jacobson
> *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2019 1:44 PM
> *To:* 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> *Subject:* [1st-mile-nm] Wyrred
>
>
>
> Wondering if anyone has spoken or worked with Wyrred (
> https://www.wyyerd.com/),  which offers to closely partner with
> communities.  In fact, that?s its whole business model.  I was recommended
> to them by the Arizona Commerce Authority.  What?s been your experience?
>
>
>
> Robert Jacobson, Ph.D.
> Chairman & Strategist
> Atelier Tomorrow Inc.
>
>
> 1530 Blue Ridge Road
> Tucson, Arizona 85745 USA
>
> Mobile:  +1 (520) 370-1259
> Email:     robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com
> <robert.jacobson at atelier-tomorrow.com>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> 1st-mile-nm mailing list
> 1st-mile-nm at mailman.dcn.org
> http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm
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>
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> Michael Harris
> --
> President, Visgence Inc.
> www.visgence.com
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