[1st-mile-nm] Resources for the 1st Mile project

[Steve Ross]

bear in mind that equipment costs have come down enormously in the
past year -- in many cases, by a factor of 10. It still isn't cheap,
and OLTs (the thingies with lasers at the POP end) haven't come down
as fast as everything else. But business cases are reasonable.
Strictly speaking, where ever fiber goes, you can establish your own
POP if you have rights t o some of the bandwidth. Obviously cheaper to
do that at a switch, though. Most states allow cities to tax these
things -- facilities and property tax -- so the records are asy to
get. Or should be.

Steve Ross

On 9/12/07, peter <pete at ideapete.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
>  There is one possible connection POP for fiber in Santa Fe , at a point
> called SFENMHQ all the rest are amplifiers
>
>  The active fiber in SF is probably Qwest
>
>  I believe Richard is also looking at nifty ideas about how the county could
> light some of these out from the possible Pop maybe using free space optics
> or similar
>
>  But do not count on any help from US Worst now Qwest
>
>  ( : ( : pete
>
>
>  Marianne Granoff wrote:
>  I am not sure who "they" refers to in the "they say" rumor below.
> Having access to a fiber-optic connection is not just about the
> fiber being close to your location.
>
> It is also about the (very expensive) electronic equipment required
> to "light" the fiber, what path it needs to take from where it is
> to where you want it, and whether there is enough "extra" fiber at
> the location where it has to be spliced to even allow that.
>
> Generally, if there is a "vault" of some kind with extra rolled-up
> fiber, you may at least have a talking point with the owner of the
> fiber. If the fiber conduit just passes by a place, you may not have
> one at all. That conduit could belong to someone who does not even
> provide public telecommunications services in NM.
>
> Minimally, find out whose fiber it is. Comcast's? Qwest's? Santa
> Fe County's?, PNM's, Someone else's? Then, find out what the
> fiber is used for.
>
> In order to provide a conduit path for fiber optic cable anywhere in
> NM, you may have to have archeological surveys/permits, DOT permits,
> EPA permits, local government permits, etc.
>
> You absolutely do have to have "rights-of-way" to place the conduit
> and fiber. In NM, that path may cross Native American tribal or
> pueblo land, federal agency land, state agency land, private land,
> or even land with disputed ownership.
>
> You have to have official permission to cross all such land, and may
> have to pay for that permission and make some guarantees about what
> you will and won't allow the fiber to be used for. All of this is
> time consuming and costly just in the labor required. Then there is
> actually placing the conduit and fiber along that path. That can
> also be expensive, depending on the terrain.
>
> Once all that is done, you still need to have that very expensive
> electronic equipment on both ends of that fiber segment.
>
> I am not trying to discourage anyone from trying to do this, but rather
> am trying to put a realistic face on the tasks required.
>
> I am not an engineer, nor an expert by any means, but I have asked this
> question many times, and the above description includes many of the
> issues that have been explained to me by those who are working in this
> area.
>
> Marianne
>
> Marianne Granoff
> Member of the Board of Directors
> Chair, Public Affairs Committee
> New Mexico Internet Professionals Association
> P.O. Box 22641
> Santa Fe, NM 87502
> http://www.nmipa.org
> 505 345-4771 or 505 980-7919
> granoff at zianet.com
>
>
> At 08:09 PM 9/11/2007 -0600, Owen Densmore wrote:
>
>
>  Tom: They say that right out front of 632 Agua Fria, the wonderful
> site just beside Redfish, there is a fiber line. We'd LOVE to figure
> out how to get 632 onto fiber and very high bandwidth.
>
> Does anyone on the list know what we'd need to do to Make It Happen??
>
>  -- Owen
>
>  Marianne Granoff
> Member of the Board of Directors
> Chair, Public Affairs Committee
> New Mexico Internet Professionals Association
> P.O. Box 22641
> Santa Fe, NM 87502
> http://www.nmipa.org
> 505 345-4771 or 505 980-7919
> granoff at zianet.com
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